Guest JHawk Report post Posted December 2, 2002 The Cleveland Plain Dealer website is reporting that Jim Thome will sign a 5-year $87.5 million dollar contract with the Phillies tomorrow. Not that I necessarily disagree with him taking the money, but you know Indians fans are going to see as a slap to the face, since Thome said he wanted to end his career in Cleveland and turned down an offer for less money, but one that had a shitload of incentives for actually earning his money. Any thoughts? EDIT: put the right url up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted December 2, 2002 As a Twins fan I'm glad he's going to Philadelphia. What would be refreshing is for Thome to admit the money the Phillies offered was just to much to pass up, instead of saying it wasn't about the money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JHawk Report post Posted December 2, 2002 As an Indians fan, I'm pissed, but if he does admit to it being about the money then I'll accept it with no problems. But Philly almost has to win it all next year, because they're putting somewhere around $33 million a year with Thome and David Bell alone, and they still have an offer to Tom Glavine on the table. That's going to be in thr 45-50 million range on those three guys alone if they sign Glavine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spaceman Spiff Report post Posted December 2, 2002 ::crosses fingers:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted December 2, 2002 When do the Phillies open up their new stadium? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted December 2, 2002 2004 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted December 2, 2002 Merci beaucoup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B. Brian Brunzell 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2002 Either way, the Phils will suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted December 2, 2002 Yeah, but at least the Phillies appear to be trying to put together a team, as opposed to the Indians, who are firmly stuck in "free agent fire sale" mode. I'm sure the money was an issue, but having a friend on the team (David Bell) and an apparent commitment to win doesn't hurt either. Though, personally, I think he's absolutely insane to go to Philly, where they'll likely put a contract on his head the first night he goes 0-4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spaceman Spiff Report post Posted December 3, 2002 Though, personally, I think he's absolutely insane to go to Philly, where they'll likely put a contract on his head the first night he goes 0-4. Nah. Philly has really mellowed on the Phillies lately (who can blame us?). He'll get his share of boos, but nothing too bad. Now, if he was on the Eagles, that'd be a totally different story... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted December 3, 2002 But Philly almost has to win it all next year, because they're putting somewhere around $33 million a year with Thome and David Bell alone, and they still have an offer to Tom Glavine on the table. That's going to be in thr 45-50 million range on those three guys alone if they sign Glavine. The Phillies are in buying mode this offseason because they cleared a lot of money from departing free agents. For example..... Terry Adams $2.7 million Robert Person $6.25 million Doug Glanville $4 million That's almost $13 million right there to cover Thome. So when you take that into consideration, they're not adding much salary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MD2020 Report post Posted December 3, 2002 And now with Bell and Thome, you can say goodbye to Travis Lee and Marlon Anderson as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evilhomer Report post Posted December 3, 2002 What would be refreshing is for Thome to admit the money the Phillies offered was just to much to pass up, instead of saying it wasn't about the money. Mike Sirotka did that when he signed with the Cubs. Background: Toronto traded for Sirotka last year, he was injured and never played a game for them while still collecting his salary, the Jays covered his medical expenses also The Jays offered him a low base salary with incentives because they wanted to see if his surgically repaired arm would fall off or not. The Cubs offered him a high base salary, so he took the offer. His statement was that he didn't know how much longer he could pitch, so he wanted to make as much money now as possible. While I think he's a bastard for leaving a club that took care of him through his injury, I respect his honesty in saying it was for the money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spaceman Spiff Report post Posted December 3, 2002 And now with Bell and Thome, you can say goodbye to Travis Lee and Marlon Anderson as well. I like Marlon, but Travis can hit the bricks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MD2020 Report post Posted December 3, 2002 And now with Bell and Thome, you can say goodbye to Travis Lee and Marlon Anderson as well. I like Marlon, but Travis can hit the bricks. I like Marlon a bit too, but he has no D. He has to set up in short-right field to get to a lot of balls. Move Polanco to second, where his batting numbers won't hurt us, and package Travis and Marlon and get us some middle relief. Now, if we just get Glanville... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted December 3, 2002 Cleveland about worshipped Thome...He HAD to leave Cleveland or be stuck in mediorocity forever and a day. Philly wouldn't be the first choice for me either...I would have entertained offers elsewhere... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted December 3, 2002 What would be refreshing is for Thome to admit the money the Phillies offered was just to much to pass up, instead of saying it wasn't about the money. Mike Sirotka did that when he signed with the Cubs. Background: Toronto traded for Sirotka last year, he was injured and never played a game for them while still collecting his salary, the Jays covered his medical expenses also The Jays offered him a low base salary with incentives because they wanted to see if his surgically repaired arm would fall off or not. The Cubs offered him a high base salary, so he took the offer. His statement was that he didn't know how much longer he could pitch, so he wanted to make as much money now as possible. While I think he's a bastard for leaving a club that took care of him through his injury, I respect his honesty in saying it was for the money. If Sirotka goes on to do ANYTHING this year, well, I'll be pissed. Let's just leave it at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest meanmaisch Report post Posted December 3, 2002 Travis Lee won't be in red pinstripes anymore? PRAISE THE LORD!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted December 4, 2002 While I think he's a bastard for leaving a club that took care of him through his injury, I respect his honesty in saying it was for the money. When you're 31, making $300,000 a year isn't an attractive option. Sirotka needed to take the best offer because its improbable that he'll ever be a quality major league pitcher again. As for the Phillies, I'm already excited about this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites