Guest GameCop Report post Posted December 4, 2002 Since Angle won the fatal 4 way on Smackdown, do you think we'll see Angle defeat Big Show at Armageddon, and later face Brock at the Rumble? With Austin coming back, I think WWE decided to change the main event of Wrestlemania from Angle vs. Brock to Austin vs. Brock. So, now that Austin vs. Brock might be slated for 'Mania, we'll probably bear witness to Angle vs. Brock at the Rumble. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted December 4, 2002 I think Big Show retains just like the observer said the main event of Rumble is Show vs. Lesnar. What it does do is puts Angle and Lesnar on the same track for once as Lesnar will be interfereing in the match and Angle will blame him for not winning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 4, 2002 No, because Brock said he'd be at Armageddon so I'm either assuming Angle wins, stays heel, and they wrestle at Mania (Steph makes Brock re-earn his slot) or they have Brock interfere, distract the ref and cost Angle the belt. Why don't they just have Benoit turn on him though, officially setting up the face turn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 4, 2002 As for the Austin thing, that was rumored weeks ago when Brock was still heel and the plan was to put Austin over, after avenging Ross and Vince with stunners and winning the rumble. When he comes back, he'll be a huge face because of the time lost and because the fans don't buy a word of the burial coming from where it did, and they love Austin. Plus, Austin was looking to put over either Eddie or Benoit when he left and I'm assuming he'll stick with that. Wouldn't surprise me since he thinks very highly of Benoit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted December 4, 2002 Austin vs. Benoit at Wrestlemania? I'm there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted December 4, 2002 Oh, and one more thing: I don't think WWE is going to waste Austin's return on a taped special emanating from the World. I think Austin will be a surprise entrant in the Rumble; he'll win it and lose his title shot to either Brock or Angle at No Way Out due to interference by either Benoit or Guerrero. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 4, 2002 That just weakens either Angle or Brock. Maybe they'll have a Benoit/Angle finale at NWO where Austin prevents the Guerreros from interfering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted December 4, 2002 Austin being a surprise entrant in the rumble just weakens the rumble buyrate unless its announced in advance.... i still wonder how they are doing the rumble with the freaking split still in place,,, argh niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheBostonStrangler Report post Posted December 4, 2002 What I think should happen: Have Angle beat Big Show at Armageddon after interference from Brock. Have Angle/Benoit at the Rumble and at No Way Out. Have Benoit win at the Rumble, and put it back on Angle at NWO. Meanwhile, at the Rumble, have Lesnar and Show be the last two men in. Have them battle it out, with Lesnar getting the W. At NWO, Angle gets the title back, and Lesnar defends his #1 Contendership against Show. Then, you have the Lesnar/Angle matchup set up for Wrestlemania. Overall, I don't want to see Austin factor in here. There are WAY too many other places where he's needed. Personally, I'd like to see Austin show up and do a feud with HHH or Steiner. They need a big personality on RAW, and unless Rock wants to go there to let Austin be on Smackdown, then Austin NEEDS to be on RAW. Fire Gerwitz if you need to. Just get Austin back on that program. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted December 4, 2002 Austin vs. Benoit at Wrestlemania? **** on just the thought alone. But why would Austin come back and job to Lesnar, isnt that why he left in the first place? If Austin did win it would be bad because its once again and old star beating a new star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted December 4, 2002 Austin vs. Benoit at Wrestlemania? I'm there. Especially since Austin has no qualms about jobbing to a good wrestler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted December 4, 2002 Austin vs. Benoit at Wrestlemania? **** on just the thought alone. But why would Austin come back and job to Lesnar, isnt that why he left in the first place? If Austin did win it would be bad because its once again and old star beating a new star. I think his problem was that he didn't want to put over Brock with no buildup whatsoever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted December 4, 2002 They should save Angle/Brock for Wrestlemania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted December 4, 2002 Here is another route to go with this deal here... Kurt Angle goes over The Big Show thanks to Brock lesnar's interference (while Angle is knocked by Heyman) Angle does a celebration thing (ballons and confetti) but Chris Beniot appears and forces the fact that Lesnar's F5 is what gave Angle the w. Angle denies saying Brock never even showed up...Beniot shows the clip. Angle goes pissy (showing he never even seen the match yet and assume The Big Show was just laid out to as he did a AngleSlam for the win) Beniot mocks Angle and they brawl in the ring (effectivly breaking them up). Big Show demands a rematch but Stephanie goes against it, stating Heyman interfered first, meaning TBS won't get a rematch with Angle. TBS attacks Brock and throws him off the building. Angle agrees to face Beniot at The Rumble for the title. Brock once again goes against doc's orders and enters the rumble. Show enters as well (Rumble is 15/15 rumble). Instead of doing the expected Brock/Show final showdown...Brock draws #11 and dominates AND cleans house once and then again. #19 is The Big Show...they have a confrontation. Double elimination...Austin shows up at #28 and all of Boston orgasms. Austin taunts the wrestlers as he walks around the ring playing to the Fans...He rolls in and stares everyone down...Matt charges him and austin kicks wham stunner...tosses Mattitude. Punch and kicks for all...Ring is depleted to 5 men after final two men enter. Austin (28) Eddy (23) Edge (25) RVD (26) Test (30) Test and Edge are elminated by RVD...RVD goes flying courtesty of Austin and Eddy kicks into Ultra coward heel...they fight for about 7 Minutes...Austin kick wham stunners Eddy out. Wins his 4th rumble. Signs with Raw the next night. HHH regains the title from HBK...Austin and HHH have a confrotation in the final moments of the show.... Meanwhile...Angle is still champion and is pleased that Austin signed with Raw. However, Stephanie announces a 6 man Dance at NWO for the #1 title contender (Brock, Show, Edge, Beniot, Rey Rey and Eddy) Austin faces Jericho at NWO in Cage Match (keep H3 from ring). Austin beats Y2J in Bloody **** match. HHH-Austin is set for WMXIX. Angle believes he will be match free for NWO and just doing a Commentator role...Stephanie stays nope...He will...REF the 6man elimination Angle calls it fair...TBS goes first thanks to Brock. Eddy pins Rey. Edge is pinned by Beniot. Lesnar eliminates Eddy. Leaving Beniot and Lesnar as the final two...Lesnar Hits 3 f5's on Beniot just to horrify Angle. Angle reluctantly calls Brock the winner. WMXIX Kurt Angle Vs Brock LesNar Triple H vs Austin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted December 4, 2002 Sounds good, Chosen One. I would rather see Austin vs. RVD, and Brock vs. Angle at Wrestlemania. You're probably wondering: "Isn't RVD a face?" Well, he is; however, on RAW, his babyface persona was emasculated by HHH. As Meltzer pointed out on his site, Van Dam couldn't defeat HHH even with a partial ref. It's about time RVD told the fans to "stick it." RVD could say that his fans and their incessant "RVD" chants haven't bolstered his career in any shape or form. In fact, the "RVD" chants have deterred him from concentrating in the ring. Bingo. If RVD stops doing highspots, and changes his in-ring style completely, the fans will effectively turn on him. Who wouldn't want to see a heel RVD vs. a babyface Austin at WrestleMania. But, here's the catch: RVD would cleanly go over Austin in the middle of the ring. Thereafter, Austin will publicly praise RVD in the ring. In the end, RVD and Austin will embrace with fireworks going off in every direction. RVD is elevated and Austin atones for his prior mishaps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2002 Angle winning the match is BRILLIANCE! SHEER BRILLIANCE. Check this. Angle wins the title from Big Slow at Armageddon. In the Royal Rumble, it can come down to Show and Brock, and Brock F5's show out of the ring. This can then lead to the showdown at Mania. That's what I'm thinking at least... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 4, 2002 What it does do is puts Angle and Lesnar on the same track for once as Lesnar will be interfereing in the match and Angle will blame him for not winning. Oh good. Make Angle out to be some loser who can't beat the Big Sloth, and then a whiney baby about it. God damn this fucking company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Hamburglar Report post Posted December 4, 2002 Austin winning the Rumble would officially make the event a joke. He's already won it far too many times as it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted December 5, 2002 "** Kurt is off for knee surgery after the PPV so guess what’ll happen at Armageddon." heeheehee I wonder???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 5, 2002 I doubt Austin wants near HHH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted December 5, 2002 I agree with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 5, 2002 "** Kurt is off for knee surgery after the PPV so guess what’ll happen at Armageddon." heeheehee I wonder???? I hate you all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HHHater Report post Posted December 5, 2002 It would be awesome if they had the "10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5..." countdown, and when the buzzer sounds, the clock suddenly turns from :00 to 3:16 - keep it on the Tron just long enough to get that roar from the crowd and a big girly shriek from the King - and then the glass breaks and the FleetCenter goes APE-SHIT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Caliban Report post Posted December 5, 2002 It would be awesome if they had the "10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5..." countdown, and when the buzzer sounds, the clock suddenly turns from :00 to 3:16 - keep it on the Tron just long enough to get that roar from the crowd and a big girly shriek from the King - and then the glass breaks and the FleetCenter goes APE-SHIT. I'm marking out reading that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted December 5, 2002 That would indeed own. I'd mark out hardcore for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Okay, is Austin coming back? Oh happy day if that's the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest creativename Report post Posted December 6, 2002 It would be awesome if they had the "10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5..." countdown, and when the buzzer sounds, the clock suddenly turns from :00 to 3:16 - keep it on the Tron just long enough to get that roar from the crowd and a big girly shriek from the King - and then the glass breaks and the FleetCenter goes APE-SHIT. DAMN, but that's an awesome idea. Far too creative for the WWE of course. But it would be real sweet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NoCalMike Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Ok, here is the thing. If Austin is back to put over new talent then so be it, but why do I have the feeling that won't be the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest creativename Report post Posted December 6, 2002 Ok, here is the thing. If Austin is back to put over new talent then so be it, but why do I have the feeling that won't be the case. Yep, I don't see Austin putting over anybody when he returns. WWE is going to need to kiss his ass bad enough as it is, and most likely when he returns Austin will play the "sensitive" card where the WWE has to tread lightly with him. There's no way in hell I see Austin agreeing to job to Brock, given the history (I don't think WWE would dare to even suggest it). Also, I don't see where all this "Austin will job to a good worker" comes from. I doubt that Austin had any intention of letting Eddie go over in their scheduled feud. Maybe he would have jobbed to Benoit, but I think he would have won the blow-off match in that too. At the time he left, Austin was in true "Superman" form. And there's probably even less chance of him putting over Benoit or anybody else at this point. Maybe after a few months, but I simply cannot envision him losing his Mania match. Considering how pissed off he was about being booked to lose to Hall in a so-called "midcard" match (even though it got as much TV time as any other match), a win at Mania is probably the least of his demands. I will be severly pissed if Austin wins the Rumble again, but if he comes back in time then I see him as the overwhelming favorite...as if he hasn't won it enough freakin' times already. You know that WWE will probably try appease him by sticking him in the Mania Main Event (they do love their shortcut solutions). I would much prefer Angle-Lesnar than Austin-whoever, yet again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 6, 2002 In think he views Benoit in a much higher light than Hall. For one, Benoit's not a guy who will show up to events drunk and drop people on their neck clumsily. Austin was pissed when he left and superman form was his answer to that, it had nothing to do with Benoit or Eddy, they were just caught up in the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites