Does HHH care about the WWE

[Guest Vern Gagne]

We always here J.R. saying how no one in the WWE cares about the business more than HHH. Do you believe this, or is it more HHH ass kissing on the WWE's part.

 

I would say he's out for his own self gains. But is it possible that he really thinks all this backstage politics is the right thing for the company?

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

I'm beginning to think that in HHH's twisted mind......he really thinks he's doing what's best for the WWE. He truly believes he's the best and everyone else but his Kliq buddies are not ready for the top spot.

 

I think he really believes it's his duty to keep the WWE from pushing these "out of his league" wrestlers. That's why he thinks he's such a lockeroom leader and why he gave speeches to the wrestlers.

[Guest BoboBrazil]

He is out for himself. He should know the more people he builds up the more credible the challenger will be and that means bigger ppv cuts from the ppvs the matches appear on though. I'm sure his salary isn't getting a cut now though anyway, so it isn't like he cares. He will own the WWE one day soon after he marries Stephanie.

[Secret Agent 0]

Umm... I think so. If HHH truly believed that his ideas were not working i think he would step off. Why? Because he wants the WWE to succeed. After all bigger buyrates = bigger pay checks.

 

You people need to stop critizing HHH for getting involved in the creative process. When working for any company for a while, you soon find yourself tossing up ideas and wanting to help become a bigger piece of the pie. There is nothing wrong with that. Blame Vince, for going along with his ideas.

 

However if you look at the RAW audience, HHH gets tons of pops. His entrance. He got chants of his name when he cost RVD the title. Why not stick the title on HHH, in there eyes he is mega over! You want the end of HHH? Stop reacting to him. Sit on your hands, and shut up about him. Start hating Booker T. Make every other post a knock on the wendys hold up. Soon they will put the title on Booker T just to spite everyone.

[Guest BoboBrazil]

Of course marks cheer for HHH. What is there to hate? He goes over everyone, he acts cool, he never insults the fans, and he never acts afraid of his opponent. Why should marks hate him?

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Of course marks cheer for HHH. What is there to hate? He goes over everyone, he acts cool, he never insults the fans, and he never acts afraid of his opponent. Why should marks hate him?

He had to fight to get chants going when he was a face following the split fighting the Undertaker (remember the big waste of money when they destroyed a camera?) and had all the same attributes you listed. Plus he was a genuine face.

 

I think HHH thinks he's doing what's best for the WWE, but at the same time I think it's just his inability to share his spot that hurts him as a businessman. It's not terrible to let Shawn Michaels win the title for a brief period, as he hasn't had bad matches or anything. But to not let anyone else participate in the chase is greedy and bad for business.

[Guest Respect The 'Taker]

I'm beginning to think that in HHH's twisted mind......he really thinks he's doing what's best for the WWE.

I agree. I believe Hunter honestly and genuinely thinks that he is doing all he can to help the business he is apart of. We've seen it in his work ethic, Trips loves the wrestling business and i don't think he'd ever want the WWE to go out of business, as it would leave him without the ability to work in the ring, probably the only thing he knows how to do 'properly'

 

However, i highly doubt Trippers disapproves of his recent treatment. He gets the most TV time and is probably one of the highest paid stars in the WWE.

 

Rules to Hunter right now.

 

Illusion

[Guest BA_Baracus]

Sure.

 

The more succesful the WWE is, the more money he makes off PPVs and merchandising and the bigger celebrity he is.

 

He cares, but it's for selfish reasons.

[Guest Trivia247]

almost a case of Meglomania

you could claim that HHH through his luck in having Stephanie now gave him some "Divine" right to lead the WWE. He may even reinforce this delusion with the fact that in 2000-2001 HHH was the first person people thought in Wrestling. Before Austin and the Rock came back. So he gets injured and comes back with a Hugh Markish welcome by the fans.

 

he could possibly believe that Only he and his Vision will save the WWE. HHH is the Ty Cobb of wrestling.

[Guest notJames]

Of course marks cheer for HHH. What is there to hate? He goes over everyone, he acts cool, he never insults the fans, and he never acts afraid of his opponent. Why should marks hate him?

Don't forget the 10-minute Sandman-esque entrance. Undertaker milked that for a decade with just about the same amount of talent.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Of course marks cheer for HHH. What is there to hate? He goes over everyone, he acts cool, he never insults the fans, and he never acts afraid of his opponent. Why should marks hate him?

Don't forget the 10-minute Sandman-esque entrance. Undertaker milked that for a decade with just about the same amount of talent.

Except...well...Undertaker's entrances alltogether were cool. HHH only has the theme, if you ask me. Regurgitating water doesn't make a cool entrance if you ask me.

 

Funny thought: People cheered Austin even though he had one of the blandest entrances in wrestling history. Except of course for his WrestleMania 13 entrance with the shattering glass in the entryway.

[Guest godthedog]

Of course marks cheer for HHH. What is there to hate? He goes over everyone, he acts cool, he never insults the fans, and he never acts afraid of his opponent. Why should marks hate him?

Don't forget the 10-minute Sandman-esque entrance. Undertaker milked that for a decade with just about the same amount of talent.

Except...well...Undertaker's entrances alltogether were cool. HHH only has the theme, if you ask me. Regurgitating water doesn't make a cool entrance if you ask me.

 

Funny thought: People cheered Austin even though he had one of the blandest entrances in wrestling history. Except of course for his WrestleMania 13 entrance with the shattering glass in the entryway.

no way, austin's entrance ruled. the music suited him perfectly, and he had this inimitable badass swagger when he walked to the ring, talking trash, absolutely dead set on annihilating whoever he was facing.

[Guest Dangerous A]

Of course marks cheer for HHH. What is there to hate? He goes over everyone, he acts cool, he never insults the fans, and he never acts afraid of his opponent. Why should marks hate him?

Sounds an awful lot like Austin and Rock there as well. WWE still hasn't adjusted their game (no pun intended) when it comes to how they want their stars protected. Austin and Rock do the same thing HHH does. Except everyone here (the board) doesn't mind.

[Guest bob_barron]

The Rock puts people over Dangerous A and jobs a lot more then HHH and Austin.

 

You never here about Rocky playing politics.

 

A lot of the criticism directed towards HHH is b/c he's banging Steph

[Guest Youth N Asia]

HHH cares about HHH, nothing more. If he cared about the WWE then he'd take himself out of a tiny bit of the ton of tv time he's getting and give it to someone who's...what's the word? Oh yeah, OVER.

[Guest Dangerous A]

I'm not defending HHH in any way. I know the shit he has done and is capable of doing.

 

I was just stating that HHH isn't the only one who comes off as a cool character who is never afraid of any of his opponents.

 

And yes, while Rock put over Brock clean, he is still protected in booking because other than that match, all of Rocky's other jobs involve screwjobs and/or massive outside interference. Rock doesn't play politics because he doesn't have to. When your a Hollywood golden boy, you don't have to do that.

[Guest bob_barron]

Rock was doing in jobs in 1999-2000 before he became a Hollywood golden boy.

 

Even though none of the jobs were clean- Rock put Jericho over big time and put him over as a big threat

[Guest NoCalMike]

If Triple H knows he can get certain advantages in the company beit political, social or any kind of status, it is only natural that he is gonng take the oppurtunity at first glance, however it should be up to Vince and other ranking officials in the company to prevent him from doing so. Quite frankly, the day that Vince is dead set on him dropping the title and jobbing clean, he WILL. So it is more a matter of Vince deciding Triple H needs to lose and pass the torch or just put someone else over.

[Guest Dangerous A]

Rock was doing in jobs in 1999-2000 before he became a Hollywood golden boy.

 

Even though none of the jobs were clean- Rock put Jericho over big time and put him over as a big threat

HHH was doing jobs in 1999 as well. (can't say the same for 2000 because of the God push).

 

While I feel Rock did Jericho justice at No Mercy of last year, I felt Rock was too protected by booking in the Vengeance and Royal Rumble matchups. That is part of my problem with screwjobs and outside interference to protect people. Can you imagine the momentum Jericho would have had if they let him beat Rock AND Austin clean on the same night at Vengeance last year? I think even stupid dog shit angles wouldn't be enough to keep Jericho down with people seeing he beat 2 legit stars clean in one night. And why couldn't he just do it in flash pin style? There is nothing wrong with flash pinning a guy, it keeps things looking LEGIT AND CLEAN. There is nothing in the rule book that says you have to beat the everyone via your finisher.

 

Screwjobs ruin the entire landscape of wrestling. While we all know the matches are worked and predetermined, we want to suspend some disbelief. If all sports games for all major sports (baseball, football, hockey, basketball, soccer) ended in screwjob fashion or controversy, people would stop tuning in. Why should wrestling be any different. I think wrestling, as a whole, need to go to clean finishes in 99% of the matches with 1% ending in screwjob or controversy, not the other way around like it is today.

[Guest Brian]

That's also because Jericho was still a face at No Mercy.

 

I don't know why they felt they needed the interferences at rumble though. He could have just used the turnbuckle and the ropes for the pin.

[Guest chirs3]

He got chants of his name when he cost RVD the title. Why not stick the title on HHH, in there eyes he is mega over!

 

... that was a joke, right?

 

Go back and listen, there's about 30 people chanting his name, and a few THOUSAND chanting RVD's and HBK's. He is not mega-over.

[Guest godthedog]

i thought the booking of the rumble was fine. make it look like the rock will really win this time, fighting off 2 other guys. jericho gets desperate and cheats, outsmarts him. since the turnbuckle was exposed at the beginning of the match, & since jericho had been cheating all through their matches, rocky should've seen it coming and watched for it. he didn't, & lost because of it.

[Guest IB2BLACK]

Jericho, needed to cheat because his finishing moves, were so weak. That break down he was doing was laughable, no way Rock should be pinned by the Lionsault or the break down.

[Guest Big McLargeHuge]

Well, they could've made the Liontamer a credible finisher.

 

I know, I know. Crazy idea.

[Guest Redhawk]

Of course marks cheer for HHH. What is there to hate? He goes over everyone, he acts cool, he never insults the fans, and he never acts afraid of his opponent. Why should marks hate him?

Sounds an awful lot like Austin and Rock there as well. WWE still hasn't adjusted their game (no pun intended) when it comes to how they want their stars protected. Austin and Rock do the same thing HHH does. Except everyone here (the board) doesn't mind.

Austin and Rock aren't booked to fear anyone because they're babyfaces. But if you remember when Austin was a heel in 2001, he did act afraid of his opponents. And Rock did the same thing when he was the Corporate Champ. In HHH's recent heel role, he fears nothing and no one. Whereas he used to fear Cactus Jack and even The Rock to some extent (shown by overly stacking the deck in his favor by having the whole McMahon-Helmsley factime with him). Now, he scoffs at every challenger and then goes out and kicks their ass. Ric Flair used to cheat because he couldn't win fair and square. HHH's character cheats because heels are supposed to do some token cheating.

[Guest Brian]

People don't submit. You crazy now.

 

Breakdown was getting over and credible though.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

This is stupid.

 

Why would anyone question if HHH cares about the WWE?

 

Hell...he's positioning himself to be an owner sooner or later.

[Guest NoCalMike]

Dangerous A is correct that screwjobs are ruining wrestling right now. Just look at the reaction to the crowd once the match hits about the 10 minute mark. All they are doing is looking to the ramp to see who will run in. Screwjob/run-ins should be done scarcely and only when setting up a MAJOR ANGLE, not every single week just to prevent someone from winning when it doesn't go anywhere in the following weeks.