Kevin Smith + Scary Movie 3 = Utter Crap

[Guest Banky]

Those Scary Movies sucked the hog. They sucked terribly, and in no way should have a second one been made. Now, since the franchise is gone to complete hell, and even the Wayan's brothers detected it, Kevin Smith is Executive Pruducing and co-writing the fucking flick. What the fuck? How the fuck has he gone from unique, quality movies like Clerks and Chasing Amy to this? He has become a parody of his movies. He has become he used to crusade against. He mocked Hollywood, he mocked conceited 'A list' actors - now he is filming movies with Jennifer Lopez and writing Scary Movie. Maybe Smith should quit making video games for his Hollywood buddies, and re-think the direction of his film career. Because if he keeps this up, all he'll have are fickle 13 year olds fans who will abandon him when they see through his shit. He exploited his fans to the utmost degree.

 

I know many saw through Smith's shit long before I did, but face it, he did make some quality movies. Now what? I hate to be cliched but Smith is a sell-out.

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

But I can guarantee all the Emo kids I know who hated the first two will ADORE this one.

 

I hate disliking people's work by association, but when I have yet to run into a single likeable person who worships this guy, I tend to develop a mean hatred for him.

 

Fo sheez,

Kotzenjunge

[Guest Nevermortal]

If it wasn't called Scary Movie 3, I doubt people would be making such a fuss.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

But I can guarantee all the Emo kids I know who hated the first two will ADORE this one.

hahaha. You've got to put up with emo kids.

[Guest Banky]

If it wasn't called Scary Movie 3, I doubt people would be making such a fuss.

I'm the only one putting up a fuss. And no, if I knew Smith was doing a spoof movie, I'd have the same feelings.

[Guest red_file]

He has become a parody of his movies. He has become he used to crusade against.

This puzzles me. He's never crusaded against anything in any of his work. He makes, in his own words, "dick and fart" movies; whatever "message" he might've been trying to convey certainly never had the urgency to warrant calling it a crusade (even in Chasing Amy he seemed to have very little to say). He never made high art that meant anything.

 

And then there's the question of selling out, which, c'mon, how does anything he's currently doing compare with the movement from making Clerks. for virtually nothing to accepting studio money and pressure to make Mallrats? He's either already sold out long ago, or he never will.

 

But, whatever.

[Guest Banky]

But he has always prided himself on doing this his way, for as little money as possible. Before J&SBSB, he never started working on a movie with a large budget.

 

Smith never directly said anything against Hollywood, except in the whole J&SBSB movie, but he always prided himself on his unconventional approach. He always did whatever made him happy, not the movie studio.

 

That was my point.

[Guest Ozymandias]

And he still is. WHat on Earth would make you think he doesn't really wanna make Jersey Girl? Becaue he DARED to cast Jennifer Lopez in it? It's his movie and he created it and he's making it how he wants.

 

What makes you think he doesn't WANT to do Scary Movie 3? I don't know about you, but the chance to make a spoof that's actually watchable (and there has been NONE since the Naked Gun movies) would be too much of a temptation to pass up for me, and clearly he feels the same way.

 

Fucking Clownshoes.

[Guest El Satanico]

I fail to see the big deal. I like his movies, but it's not like we are talking about a great director here.

 

It's not like he's directing it. He's just a co producer and helping with the script.

[Guest SP-1]

I'd say that Dogma was the first big budget film that Smith made. It wasn't exactly small potatoes or anything.

 

If I am not mistaken, Jersey Girl has something to do with his daughter, so I'm fairly certain that it is a film that he wanted to make. As for SM3, as Ozymandis said, he may just want to do a quality spoof, which we haven't seen in quite some time.

 

Just my opinion, though.

 

SP

[Guest J*ingus]

And so we'll probably end up with a sequel that is better than the two films that proceeded it. So? It's not like this is any lower or more base a project than Mallrats or J&SBSB.

[Guest SP-1]

And at least it isn't another Vulgar. ::shudders::

[Guest Banky]

No, I am quite certain Kevin Smith is doing everything he wants now, but I think his motives are driven by different means of the past. Now instead od counting on his movie making abilities, he is casting J'lo. And don't give me this "she's a good actress" shit, because she's god awful.

 

Smith no longer casts Brian O'Halleran, Jeff Anderson, or even J. Lee much anymore - rather he sticks with Affleck, Chris Rock, George Carlin, and other stars for bigger billing. Lee was in J&SBSB but Rock was given higher billing than him. Thats not right.

 

You all can say that Scary Movie 3 will be good, but when it comes down to it, it'll be the same tripe as all of the other spoofs.

[Guest MrRant]

Don't EVER put down George Carlin again you SOB. Carlin means much more to entertainment then Kevin Smith and the rest of his crew ever will.

[Guest Banky]

Don't EVER put down George Carlin again you SOB. Carlin means much more to entertainment then Kevin Smith and the rest of his crew ever will.

Hey, I'm not exactly singing the praises of Smith or his crew here. So don't go shooting your mouth. But I'd take Lee over your precious Carlin any day. And thats the truth.

[Guest MrRant]

I assure you the more people will weep when Carlin dies then Lee. Most people don't care and most importantly... don't know who the fuck Jason Lee is. Everybody knows of the godness that is George Carlin.

[Guest J*ingus]

I like both of them.

[Guest Banky]

I assure you the more people will weep when Carlin dies then Lee. Most people don't care and most importantly... don't know who the fuck Jason Lee is. Everybody knows of the godness that is George Carlin.

I'm sure you'd love to believe that. But don't discount that career Lee has had. Don't forget he is a LEGEND in the skateboarding world as he had been skating professional for years before his acting career. Go get yourself a Transworld magazine and see the who most of the current skaters consider their top 5 - and its almost gaurenteed Lee will be there , or his trend-setting Blind 'Video Days' skate video directed by Spike Jonze.

 

Secondly, aside from Kissing a Fool and Stealing Harvard, Lee has always chosen prime roles. He is diverse, and coveted by many directors today.

 

Sing all the praises of Carlin, but I'll always take J. Lee over him. There isn't even a contest.

[Guest red_file]

Now instead od counting on his movie making abilities, he is casting J'lo. And don't give me this "she's a good actress" shit, because she's god awful.

And Mewes is gonna get knighted any day now.

 

Smith no longer casts Brian O'Halleran, Jeff Anderson, or even J. Lee much anymore

 

The Jeff Anderson falling out was semi-well documented, and he and O'Halleran were both in the Clerks animated series and had cameos in his last two movies. I was also under the impression that both were pursuing interests other than acting.

 

Jason Lee is becoming more in demand and is less available. His lesser role in Dogma was because he was comitted to another film (I think Kissing a Fool, but I can't remember).

 

Merely because they're not in the movies doesn't mean that Mr. Smith does not want them. Schedueling does not always permit.

 

rather he sticks with Affleck

 

Affleck was with them in Mallrats, same as Lee. He comes back to View Askew and is paid scale to work for a friend. I hardly see a problem with it.

 

Lee was in J&SBSB but Rock was given higher billing than him.  Thats not right.

 

The studio, agents, the guild, and lawyers determine who gets billed where. You can hardly blame Mr. Smith for a marketing decision.

 

You all can say that Scary Movie 3 will be good, but when it comes down to it, it'll be the same tripe as all of the other spoofs.

 

A pessimist on a wrestling board? Perish the thought.

[Guest SP-1]

Whoa now.

 

Carlin and Lee are two totally different animals. Carlin is a standup comic/actor who has very strong political and social views that he has made a foundation for his career on.

 

Lee is a skateboarder/actor who has had a decent career that is, in my opinion, just beginning.

 

That doesn't make one better than the other. They're two different types of entertainers that happen to share the commonality of being actors. A pissing contest over them is rather pointless, really.

[Guest dreamer420]

It could be funny. The original Scary Movie was pretty damn funny in my opinion, and while the second was way more lame and cheesy, the third would be hilarious is Smith is writing it.

[Guest Banky]

And Mewes is gonna get knighted any day now.

 

Atleast he had niche in the movies. He played what his character was all about. Mewes being cast in the movie is much different than the reason Lopez was.

 

The Jeff Anderson falling out was semi-well documented, and he and O'Halleran were both in the Clerks animated series and had cameos in his last two movies. I was also under the impression that both were pursuing interests other than acting.

 

Oh boy, not roles in the Clerks animated series. Give me a break, they both were the stars of Clerks. if Anderson had a falling out thats fine, but I'm sure O'Halleran would have loved a major role in any of the View Askew movies.

 

Jason Lee is becoming more in demand and is less available. His lesser role in Dogma was because he was comitted to another film (I think Kissing a Fool, but I can't remember).

 

Merely because they're not in the movies doesn't mean that Mr. Smith does not want them. Schedueling does not always permit.

 

Affleck was with them in Mallrats, same as Lee. He comes back to View Askew and is paid scale to work for a friend. I hardly see a problem with it.

 

Yes, both were in Mallrats, but who was more of the star? J. Lee. I like Affleck, its just the principle that Smith bends over backwards only for him and not for anyone else.

 

The studio, agents, the guild, and lawyers determine who gets billed where. You can hardly blame Mr. Smith for a marketing decision.

 

I'm sure Smith casted him with the 'name value' in mind. Sure the corporate Movie Companies do raise havoc, so I'll give you that.

 

A pessimist on a wrestling board? Perish the thought.

 

Pessimist? Did you see Scary Movie 2? Did you see J&SBSB (a spoof movie based on his own characters) - both were not very good. Its called being realistic - not pessimistic.

[Guest El Satanico]

What exactly does Kevin Smith "owe" his fans.

 

He makes simple movies that have no complex deeper meaning. His movies aren't about the art of film making. He has always made easy to digest movies that any mainstream theater goer could get.

 

So now just because his mainstream friendly movies have bigger budgets and he's now using name value actors he's suddenly the devil? Just because he hasn't had everyone from Clerks in every movie he has ever made he's some sort of scumbag now?

 

Also Jason Lee is now above Kevin Smith movies. I assure you that Jason Lee while reading scripts for better directors isn't weeping over not being in the next Kevin Smith movie.

[Guest Human Fly]

I read somewhere (I'll try and find the site her after I post this) that Smith was doing this to hopefully be able to do Fletch. He was doing this as a favor with hopes that he would then get the greenlight to do his project.

[Guest Human Fly]

Here it is from Chud.com, although it's only speculation

 

In what I hope is a chore the creator has to do in order to get his version of Fletch made with Jason Lee, the director will have a hand in the writing and the producing of the third film in a series that needed only one film.

[Guest MDH257]

He wrote Jersey Girl himself, inspired by his experieces in becoming a father. It's not a Miramax property that he took on as a favor.

 

I heard he won't direct Fletch unless Miramax agrees to let Jason Lee star.

[Guest Lethargic]

So we're gonna put down Kevin Smith for writing Scary Movie 3 and say nothing about his writing on Coyote Ugly? This ain't the worst movie he's ever worked on. And it's not like this movie is going to be anything like the first two. The Wayans have nothing to do with it. This one is by David Zucker. The master of the movie parodies. Putting him and Smith together leaves no chance that this won't be funny.

 

Maybe the reason Smith doesn't cast his "friends" in his movies anymore is because he wants the movies to actually be, I don't know, GOOD. So maybe he'd rather use ACTORS instead of just Joe Blow guy off the street now that he actually has a budget he can use.

 

Man I have never understood the Ben Affleck haters. EVERY single person that has ever appeared in a Kevin Smith movie becomes some kind of icon to people. Everybody from Jason Lee, to those morons in Clerks, to George Carlin, to the gay black dude in Chasing Amy. But Ben Affleck? "Oh no, we can't like him. He's actually succesfull and makes movies that make money! We can't like him! That would take points off my cool factor punch card!"

[Guest Banky]

I could be wrong, and probably am, but I feel that Smith's romatic comedy route with J'Lo and Affleck is disheartening. It smarks of everythign I hate in movies and Hollywood. Smith's currently being featured in People and US magazine because of his friendship with them. His mainstream exposure is only because of his relationship with them. I'm sure he doesn't mean to do it, but it seems that he is using it as a tool to further his career.

[Guest Lethargic]

I could be wrong, and probably am, but I feel that Smith's romatic comedy route with J'Lo and Affleck is disheartening. It smarks of everythign I hate in movies and Hollywood. Smith's currently being featured in People and US magazine because of his friendship with them. His mainstream exposure is only because of his relationship with them. I'm sure he doesn't mean to do it, but it seems that he is using it as a tool to further his career.

Sounds like a smart man to me.

[Guest Banky]

So we're gonna put down Kevin Smith for writing Scary Movie 3 and say nothing about his writing on Coyote Ugly? This ain't the worst movie he's ever worked on. And it's not like this movie is going to be anything like the first two. The Wayans have nothing to do with it. This one is by David Zucker. The master of the movie parodies. Putting him and Smith together leaves no chance that this won't be funny.

 

Maybe the reason Smith doesn't cast his "friends" in his movies anymore is because he wants the movies to actually be, I don't know, GOOD. So maybe he'd rather use ACTORS instead of just Joe Blow guy off the street now that he actually has a budget he can use.

 

Man I have never understood the Ben Affleck haters. EVERY single person that has ever appeared in a Kevin Smith movie becomes some kind of icon to people. Everybody from Jason Lee, to those morons in Clerks, to George Carlin, to the gay black dude in Chasing Amy. But Ben Affleck? "Oh no, we can't like him. He's actually succesfull and makes movies that make money! We can't like him! That would take points off my cool factor punch card!"

Smith helped write Coyote Ugly? YIPES! I never knew that, and I despise that movie.

 

As I've said, I like Affleck, so don't go considering me part of that Affleck hate crusade - though, I do feel he has bad taste in women. And his uber-cool studboy gimmick since dating J'lo has left little to be desired.