Guest DeputyHawk Report post Posted December 11, 2002 The following is a preliminary report of tonight's Velocity & Smackdown! tapings. If anyone who attended wants to provide additional notes/results, please send it on in and we'll add it to this page. December 10, 2002 Atlanta, Georgia Report by: rajahwwf.com Dark Matches/Velocity Tapings - I missed all the dark matches and Velocity tapings, but I believe something happened between Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero, setting up their match for Armageddon. If anyone can fill us in on this, it'd be appreciated. Smackdown! Tapings - They show clips of Dawn Marie and Torrie Wilson from last week with Dawn inviting Torrie to her hotel room and Torrie showing up. - They announce that Kurt Angle and Edge will team up to take on Big Show and Albert tonight while Scott Steiner will be present to sign his contract. - B2 def. Rikishi. Chimmel messed up the introduction saying "John Cena accompanied by B2" so they re-do it. B2 controls most of the match. Rikishi tried for the Stinkface, but B2 low blowed him. Rikishi gets nailed in the head by a chain and is knocked unconscious for the pin. - Backstage, Torrie Wilson talks to a woman and it is revealed that Dawn Marie has been spreading some rumors about what happened between the two last week in the hotel room. Torrie, upset, excuses herself and leaves. Tazz says that he's heard the rumors and they're hot. - Michael Cole and Tazz talk about a recent Brock Lesnar autograph signing and how someone "big" asked Brock for his autograph. They say they will tell us after the commercial break, including footage... - We come back and see footage of Lesnar's signing. Angle is in line to get an autograph. Brock asks him what he wants and Kurt says he'd like to talk with him. Kurt announces that Brock will take a 5-minute break. Angle says that they can help each other - he can get his suspension lifted and he can help him beat Big Show by being in his corner. Brock asks Kurt if he can't beat Show and Angle responds by saying even Brock couldn't beat Show with Paul Heyman in his corner. But if he agrees to be in his corner, he will be face to face with the men who screwed him. As long as Big Show is champion, Brock can't get a rematch but Kurt says if he wins, he'll give him the first shot. They both agree that they have thought about facing each other in a match and Kurt says Angle vs. Lesnar would be the greatest match in WWE history. If Brock will help him, he will return the favor. Brock responds by saying that if Angle can get his suspension lifted, he will consider it. - Backstage, Paul Heyman talks to Albert and Show and says that tonight A-Train (Albert's new name) and Big Show and will go through Edge and Angle on their way to greatness. Josh Matthews interrupts and wants his thoughts on what just happened. Heyman has no idea what he's talking about and Matthews fills them in on the potential Angle-Lesnar tandem. Show says if these rumors are true, Heyman better fix them. Heyman tells Show to get his title and they'll go talk to Stephanie right now. This is what he's paid for. - Backstage, Heyman meets Stephanie but Steph tells him to get out because she's busy with a private conversation. Heyman is kicked out but assures Show that he has everything under control. - Demott cuts an interview and basically says he enjoys his work and likes beating people up. - Bill DeMott def. Shannon Moore. Before the match, DeMott cuts another promo bashing the hometown fans which won't be shown on TV. They make a point during the commentary to push DeMott as a bully and an unhappy man. DeMott controls the whole match and wins easily. - Backstage, Heyman finally gets back into Steph's office. Stephanie says that she's been busy with Scott Steiner and his signing. Heyman cuts to the chase and says that he's here to clarify a rumor about her reinstating Brock Lesnar. Stephanie says she has been considering it because Brock has kept within the terms of his suspension. Heyman asks her if she's out of her mind. Steph says she's aware of what Brock is capable of but she's the decision maker. Lesnar makes Smackdown! money and when he's not on, they lose money. She talked with Angle and her decision has been made - as of Armageddon, Brock Lesnar's suspension is lifted! Show gets angry and Steph dismisses them from her office. - Eddie & Chavo Guerrero def. Chris Benoit & Billy Kidman to retain their tag team titles. - I might have missed some stuff in here due to a technical difficulty, including anything of importance that happened in the last match. Again, if anyone can fill in with anything I missed, please send it in. - Dawn Marie Interview. Before the interview, Torrie confronted Dawn and asked her to call off the marriage like she promised. Anyway, Dawn tells Al Wilson that the rumors he's heard are true, she did spend the night with Torrie. But everytime she looked into Torrie's eyes and everytime she kissed her, she felt as if she was looking into Al's eyes and kissing Al's lips. Torrie was her only connection to Al. Before she makes her statement, she needs to know how he feels about her. Al says that he still wants to marry Dawn. Dawn is thrilled and says she too wants to get married on Smackdown!. Torrie comes running down and attacks Dawn Marie. Al tries to get in the way but Torrie lets him have it too. Dawn takes a mic and says that on Sunday at Armageddon, she will show the whole world how much Torrie enjoyed her time in the hotel room, she will show the world what happened! Everyone will see exactly the type of person she is - a sexual predator. - Crash def. Jamie Noble by DQ. Throughout the match, Cole and Tazz harp about Noble's losing streak and speculate about the identity of Noble's cousin, Nunzio. During the match, Nunzio does indeed show up and proceeds to beat the hell out of Crash. Nidia doesn't seem too happy to see Nunzio though. - Scott Steiner arrives. Stephanie is told that he just arrived and asks to pass on a message to him: she'll be waiting in the ring with his exclusive Smackdown! contract. - This Saturday on Confidential: The Rock speaks on his return to WWE. - Scott Steiner Interview. Steiner says that last week, Stephanie made some suggestive promises. They got into his limo and the cameras stopped rolling and nobody knows what happened next. What happened next was nothing. Steiner says that she broke all her promises to the Big Bad Booty Daddy but he can see in her eyes, her needs and wants. She wants to experience what it is like to be with a real man, she wants him - the Freakzilla. Stephanie interrupts and says that this isn't the time and place to get into promises. She's sorry he misunderstood but what she's offering is a signing bonus. Steiner grabs Stephanie and says let's make our own home movie. Stephanie says she has higher standards and morals than his freaks. She is first class and is all business. She is offering him an exclusive Smackdown! contract but chants of "slut" drown her out. Steiner says she doesn't like her business. If he can't trust her in his personal life, how can he trust her in his career. She's nothing but a tease and has probably lied to many men in her life. He's not going to make this decision on his own so he asks the freaks out there if he can trust Stephanie. He says the freaks say hell no. Smackdown! is a great show and he'd love to be on it, but Stephanie is the reason he's not signing. He ends with: "Big Poppa Pump is your hookup ON RAW; Holla if you hear me!". Cole and Tazz finally realize that he's signing with Raw and Steiner leaves with Stephanie begging him to come back. Eric Bischoff pops in and leaves with Steiner. - They show clips of A-Train injuring Rey Mysterio last week. We also speak to the doctor who performed Mysterio's knee surgery and he says that the injury might be "career threatening". Mysterio says it's his fault it happened, but he just wants to rehab the knee and come back and take care of business. - Edge is interviewed saying that his roller coaster ride went off the track. He talks about Albert attacking him before his match last week and how he tore his MCL. But A-Train or Albert or whatever is in for one helluva beatdown. Angle comes by and says he wants to hear everything he says. They are partners tonight but they have a history. Edge asks Angle if he has his back. Kurt responds by saying that he's confident that he'll have his back just like he's confident that Brock Lesnar will have his back at Armageddon. - They run over the Armageddon card: Dawn Marie/Torrie Wilson footage, Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H, Trish Stratus vs. Jacqueline vs. Victoria, Edge vs. A-Train, Chris Jericho & Christian vs. Dudley Boyz vs. Booker T & Goldust vs. Lance Storm & William Regal, Chris Benoit vs. Eddie Guerrero, Kane vs. Batista, and Kurt Angle vs. The Big Show with Brock Lesnar potentially in Angle's corner. - Big Show & A-Train def. Edge & Kurt Angle. A-Train (Albert) has brand new music to go along with his new name. Finish saw Heyman interfere and help Big Show pin Angle for the victory. A-Train beats up Angle some more after the match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2002 ....A-Train? I'm having bad pre-nWo WCW flashbacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted December 11, 2002 Craptastic... At least they're FINALLY building up the goddamn Angle-Lesnar feud for Wrestlemania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted December 11, 2002 A-Train. Worst name ever. What's next, is he joining Cena's group? Oh, and the thought of Torrie & Al Wilson sharing a sexual partner is creepy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted December 11, 2002 Shit, why not just make him the cat's limo driver? *note to self* Do something else on Thursday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted December 11, 2002 *shakes head* I'm glad GLAD I have class from 7pm til 10 pm. DeMott over Moore Albert over ANGLE!? All the potential stars with SD! brand and they give at least half their interviews to hosses hosses hosses. Christ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted December 11, 2002 Oh, and no RVD on the pay per view. Yippee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted December 11, 2002 Question: Why to the fans have to pay for the WWF's stupidity? It's not our fault they have too many PPV's and have to wait until the last minute to hype them up. God I hate these hard-sell shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted December 11, 2002 maybe he'll be on heat. That'll be so nice!... Because lord knows three women outdraw fucking RVD. Christ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2002 ...I just noticed...Edge and Angle are on the same team... THE F'N HELL!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BoboBrazil Report post Posted December 11, 2002 Ok, after that ending Angle should be winning the title at Armageddon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeputyHawk Report post Posted December 11, 2002 angle will almost certainly win on sunday, probably with the help of brock lesnar, but will then refuse to give brock the first title-shot as promised thus dragging out their issue until wrestlemania where brock goes over. yeah, he does! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BoboBrazil Report post Posted December 11, 2002 Yeah, I can see Angle refusing to give Brock the title shot after Brock helps Angle win, but then Brock wins the Royal Rumble and Angle has to give him one at WM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ISportsFan Report post Posted December 11, 2002 What the heck is up with this? Rikishi, Albert, DeMott, Big Show, etc... This is bullcrap how much hoss we have to deal with. Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BoboBrazil Report post Posted December 11, 2002 When business is down Vince loves to push the big men. He thinks people want to see them pushed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Report post Posted December 11, 2002 A-Train? Once again A-TRAIN!? I can't wait until this month is over and hopefully Vince realizes he's making a mistake. AND NO MATTITUDE? THE FUCK!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted December 11, 2002 I think they'll go full blow with the Angle face turn and have Brock interfere to stop Heyman but the ref sees Brock and DQ's Angle, then Heyman can grant Brock a number one contender's match to thank him, but stack the odds big time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zero_Cool Report post Posted December 11, 2002 If they do give Angle the Title, will it mean that he may have to wait until after WM to get his knee fixed? I mean, they could maybe have Lesnar injure Angle on Smackdown! the week after Armageddon, to have Angle taken out for a few weeks to have his surgery. I'm thinking that Lesnar could smash Angle's knee with the steel steps, ala McMahon in 1998. Anywho, one lousy show, with a possible redeeming match in Los Guerreros and Benoit/Kidman. At least we see someone who could get into the Smackdown Six and work along with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Edwin MacPhisto Report post Posted December 11, 2002 Well, it certainly sounds like the Angle/Lesnar business is being really well-written. It's pretty unique as far as wrestling angles of recent history go. But oh god, more Albert. And I guess we'll probably get some sort of cruiser match on Heat...yick. Not exactly an exciting card when you break it down. Also, way too much Albert even existing, if you hadn't picked up on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetterberg is God 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2002 At least Steiner isn't joining Smackdown. That's one positive thing from this show Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zero_Cool Report post Posted December 11, 2002 Oh yeah, RAW won something!! (Y) In the form of Steiner, of course, who will most likely feud with Y2J after BookDust win the tag team titles at Armageddon, if that makes any sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted December 11, 2002 They run over the Armageddon card: Dawn Marie/Torrie Wilson footage, Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H, Trish Stratus vs. Jacqueline vs. Victoria, Edge vs. A-Train, Chris Jericho & Christian vs. Dudley Boyz vs. Booker T & Goldust vs. Lance Storm & William Regal, Chris Benoit vs. Eddie Guerrero, Kane vs. Batista, and Kurt Angle vs. The Big Show with Brock Lesnar potentially in Angle's corner. Thanks WWE! No RVD? Thanks, you made my day (/sarcasm) The only redeeming thing about Armeggedon is Eddie vs. Benoit. ONLY ONE GOOD MATCH. Thats just amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted December 11, 2002 jesus, this looks like the worst smackdown since before they got benoit. thank god i decided not to go, or i'd be PISSED. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted December 11, 2002 The only redeeming thing about Armeggedon is Eddie vs. Benoit. ONLY ONE GOOD MATCH. Thats just amazing. And with zero buildup. Not even a promo. Benoit vs. Eddie as a filler match on a nothing PPV annoys me. On the other hand, the name A-Train amuses me. The fact that he's already in the main event (in the annoying mix-and-match tag format) does not. Thank GOD Steiner is on RAW. I'm not a fan but any idiot can see that not only does Steiner not fit on Smackdown (can you see him taking orders from Skankanie?) but RAW needs anything they can get. Looks like SK was right in that B2 is getting a bigger push than Cena, which is sad. I'm starting to think that they're going to blow their load and have Angle/Lesnar at the Rumble. I don't think they can wait 4 months to be honest. Fun fact: DeMott's last TV match as Hugh Morrus was against Shannon Moore on Velocity, and you could hear a pin drop in the crowd. Moore actually won that match. To think I supported this show..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYCTA Bus No. PA1767 Report post Posted December 11, 2002 Actually, I like the way their building the whole Lesnar/Angle feud. I guess I'm just looking at this with an open mind instead of "Hey, it's Albert! I hate this!" I'm liking the way Show is being built up and now that Albert is no longer Albert, but instead hired thug A-Train, he will finally be able to develop some sort of character besides "Piercing Guy" or Hairy Back" guy. Listen, you all are constantly begging for new people to be pushed and here they are. Show is finally being pushed in the manner he's supposed to be and A-Train is no longer some fat jobber. I'm sure you all would have liked for Benoit to have been in Show's role and Eddie in A-Train's. But guess what, the fans would have shit on that because those two are over-exposed as it is. Also, it's easier to get a big guy like Albert over with a steady push and good writing than a guy like Benoit. Albert is a big man so getting him over as the evil, manipulating Paul Heyman's thug is easy. Benoit on the other hand is not big and his mic skills are mediocre, he has nothing to back him up. The WWF has to force feed the fans Benoit to get him over and to a lesser extent Eddie Guerrero. I'm sure you all haven't forgotten "Latino Heatless" as he feuded with Steve Austin. I'm tired of the SD!6. I'm glad that Show and A-Train are getting pushed because it's interesting. The storyline is actually flowing and just by reading the spoilers I've become interested in the show. You may not get good wrestling, but at least the Benoit's and the Guerreros can hold up that portion while the more interesting portions can be left for slugs like Show and A-Train. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted December 11, 2002 I'm sure you all would have liked for Benoit to have been in Show's role and Eddie in A-Train's. But guess what, the fans would have shit on that because those two are over-exposed as it is. And they're not shitting on A-Train or Pig Slow? Please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted December 11, 2002 Sound like must miss TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYCTA Bus No. PA1767 Report post Posted December 11, 2002 Big Show gets more of a reaction than Chris "Total Apathy" Benoit. Benoit is leeching off of Angle's heat now just as he did Jericho's in 2001 before the Austin mini-feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted December 11, 2002 That's pretty funny, especially considering he hasn't teamed with Angle in two weeks now. Who's to say that Big Show doesn't leech off Heyman's heat? Or "A-Train" off of Show and Heyman? You're not proving your case here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patty O'Green 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2002 Actually, I like the way their building the whole Lesnar/Angle feud. I guess I'm just looking at this with an open mind instead of "Hey, it's Albert! I hate this!" I'm liking the way Show is being built up and now that Albert is no longer Albert, but instead hired thug A-Train, he will finally be able to develop some sort of character besides "Piercing Guy" or Hairy Back" guy. Listen, you all are constantly begging for new people to be pushed and here they are. Show is finally being pushed in the manner he's supposed to be and A-Train is no longer some fat jobber. I'm sure you all would have liked for Benoit to have been in Show's role and Eddie in A-Train's. But guess what, the fans would have shit on that because those two are over-exposed as it is. Also, it's easier to get a big guy like Albert over with a steady push and good writing than a guy like Benoit. Albert is a big man so getting him over as the evil, manipulating Paul Heyman's thug is easy. Benoit on the other hand is not big and his mic skills are mediocre, he has nothing to back him up. The WWF has to force feed the fans Benoit to get him over and to a lesser extent Eddie Guerrero. I'm sure you all haven't forgotten "Latino Heatless" as he feuded with Steve Austin. I'm tired of the SD!6. I'm glad that Show and A-Train are getting pushed because it's interesting. The storyline is actually flowing and just by reading the spoilers I've become interested in the show. You may not get good wrestling, but at least the Benoit's and the Guerreros can hold up that portion while the more interesting portions can be left for slugs like Show and A-Train. Explain to me how being big has anything to do with Albert getting over or deserving a push. Mark Henry is big. He's not over and never has been. 3MW are huge and they're not over. Being big doesn't mean you'll be able to get over or deserve a push You say Benoit's mic skills are mediocre. Well, so are Albert's mic skills! You think Benoit would have to be over exposed to get over? Well, what do you call Albert all of sudden appearing on Smackdown injuring one of the top guys on the roster, getting a feud with one of the most over faces on Smackdown and then being in the main event. I call it the start of over exposure. Who cares if they have to over expose Benoit,The WWE didn't have a problem over exposing Brock or Batista so why should they have a problem with Benoit? It's not like Albert just started in the WWE, like Batista. He's been here since at least 1999 and out side of the tag division he has shown absolutely nothing besides his ability to grunt and shout that shows he deserves such a sudden push. But you're right Edge needs someone new to feud with. That someone should have been Matt Hardy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
