Guest Samurai_Goat Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 If I am, quote, as bright as a yak, or extremely young, than you should be attempting to enlighten me, rather than resort to cheep comments about my intelligence. And if you think you can scare me with your yak simile, than, as Gamegiri2002 once said, "Bizatch, you be trippin'."
Guest EricMM Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 I'm sorry for calling you a vince mark now don't get banned! Calm down!
Guest Samurai_Goat Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 Man, haven't seen stuff like Cat's responses since Marney chased Robjohnstone from the current events forums...
Guest EricMM Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 Mmm... Good times, good times. I still want to know why C911 says we should swallow this tripe.
Guest Samurai_Goat Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 Because we have the mental capacities of young yaks, I beleive his answer was. Or at least me, you guys weren't stripped of your humanity. (*Tear*)
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 I would respond but apparently I am unable to read the words you have written
Guest Samurai_Goat Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 MURARAGGHHH! (or whatever sound a yak makes)
Guest converge241 Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 maybe they should have you guys @ the world party
Guest Samurai_Goat Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 Yea, I'm on entertaining son of a yak.
Guest EricMM Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 yeah yeah. We cut better promos than RVD does (j/k Bps) I'm sad Cataclysm911 left. What a stirring debate! RVD, literacy, and bovine status! What a thread!
Guest Samurai_Goat Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 Now, if only WWE followed suit...could you imagine an illiterate yak doing the Van-Terminator?
Guest EricMM Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 Silly Samuri, the big show can't jump that far...
Guest Jobber of the Week Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 Subtitle: How RVD proved that only WWE created stars get pushed. Steve Austin was WCW-created, and was far more memorable as Stunning Steve Austin than whatever HHH was doing there.
Guest Samurai_Goat Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 "Silly Samuri, the big show can't jump that far..." Nice, Eric. Nice.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 True. Great point. It almost makes Vince seem foolish for not pushing other guys who got over without his help. Still...KOTR 96 was a long time before he finally got to the top (Mania 98). If he hadn't been the biggest draw ever I have to wonder how long Vince would have stuck with it. WWE guys seem to get more chances. Hell...Big Show will be champ again in a few years.
Guest Samurai_Goat Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 I dunno, how far over was Austin in the other feds? Maybe, in Vince's mind, he is home grown, because he was never real big anywhere else? Hey, it's a working theory here!
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 Austin was about to be pushed as the next top guy in WCW when they decided to bring in Hogan instead. At least that's the story...that Flair (who was a face at the time) had picked Austin to put over and have him run as the top heel. Instead they bought Hogan and turned Flair heel again.
Guest Samurai_Goat Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 Well, from that time period, all I have to go on is Mick Foley books.
Guest LaParkaMarka Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 MURARAGGHHH! (or whatever sound a yak makes) That is so in my sig now. YAK POWER~!
Guest Samurai_Goat Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 Bitchin'. You're the babycakes of the day, LaParkaMarka
Guest AndrewTS Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 Great. It's not like the WWE (which is still marketed to children) is going to condone blantant drug references like ECW did. That's part of the reason RVD was over in ECW too. .... This may be one of the most moronic statements said about the WWE (outside of a WWE employee or some one in a "STEFFUNY 1Z H0TT NE1 G0T N00D P1X" chatrooms) ever. WWE/F hasn't marketed to children in nearly seven years, when the "Attitude" era started and they moved towards 18-35 year old males. And did you completely miss Godfather asking the crowd to smoke weed before his matches? Or "even today": yeah, "Ass Cream," corpse-fucking, and HLA is quality children's programming. C911 must be watching some bizzaro universe WWE.
Guest jester Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 I'll make an effort to try get the discussion back to RVD again. I, like Chrismwaters, am wondering if this is some bizzarro experiment in which RVD is deliberately kept out meaningful involvement in a PPV to see if the buyrates go down. If the experiment theory is correct, then WWE is doing something like testing if boiling water is hot by sticking their hands into the pot, but anyway. As to RVD's main event worthiness, if WWE had put half the effort in to raising RVD as they did to keeping HHH more or less where he is, he'd be crazy over and making them lots of money.
Guest wwF1587 Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 i could put five bucks that RVD wont even be on television even though he is at the world... and possibly WIN.
Guest creativename Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 Yaks, 13-year olds and the illiterate > C911 Heh, just a light-hearted jab, no need to call me an illegitimate pre-pubescent son of a mongoose or something.
Guest eirejmcmahon Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 If WWE pushed him then, he would be a mega star now, instead of being relegated to hosting ppv parties. I don't think that RVD has "megastar" potential but they might as well give him a shot at the top, worst case scenario, things remain in the shitter.
Guest humongous2002 Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 Why not? Don't you think he's a better draw than HHH or HBK? I don't know. I never really thought about drawing power. Drawing power doesn't mean dick to me. All I know is that Van Dam's offense is terrible. He has zero to very little emotion in his matches. His forearms are awful. He kicks and flips are terrible. His microphone work is Benoit level. Basically, all he has is a finisher. Seems that the only move he ever sells for as well. Non of his matches are even memorable unless it's a gimmick match. I may not like Triple H's stroke. I may not like HBK coming back and wrestling injured. At least they both don't expose the business when they go to make their in match comeback though. Jesus. Ahem, everybody and their mothers know that the business is fake and we still watch it, so this explanation is pure b/s.
Guest Brian Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 I think the point he's trying to make is that some people make it really hard sometimes to suspend disbelief. Like Lance Storm's strikes. Nipping up when you're back is supposedly mashed.
Guest AndrewTS Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 Why not? Don't you think he's a better draw than HHH or HBK? I don't know. I never really thought about drawing power. Drawing power doesn't mean dick to me. All I know is that Van Dam's offense is terrible. He has zero to very little emotion in his matches. His forearms are awful. He kicks and flips are terrible. His microphone work is Benoit level. Basically, all he has is a finisher. Seems that the only move he ever sells for as well. Non of his matches are even memorable unless it's a gimmick match. I may not like Triple H's stroke. I may not like HBK coming back and wrestling injured. At least they both don't expose the business when they go to make their in match comeback though. Jesus. Ahem, everybody and their mothers know that the business is fake and we still watch it, so this explanation is pure b/s. Is a flying elbow into packing material which we aren't even shown business-exposing too? How about doing that same kippup every time we are supposed to think someone's back is destroyed? Or someone coming out of retirement, presumably with no idea he's going to work again, and within a short bout of retraining, beats the supposed top star in the company, then several of them? Despite the fact that he's got a bad back and still isn't in the best of shape? And RVD's offense wouldn't look weak if we didn't have people bitching about how stiff he is and told to tone it down. After all, this ain't ballet.
Guest Brian Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 No, his forearms have always been horrible and his kicks aren't controlled at all.
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