Has Vince just not noticed competition

[Guest cynicalprofit]

I mean it really is that obvious, ratings were up, everyone was making money, well untill the end atleast, and people watched.

 

I mean I know Vince tried the brand seperation, but everyone knows its fake so its not really working. Why doesnt Vince just fiance someone that he trust, like Shane or Stephaine to start a new rival promotion. And do it away from Vince, get it a deal on a different network, take guys like the Rock, which would make him a MEGA heel, and get ratings. Plus he's an established act/draw, if you tell them the Rocks gonna be on the show, any network would probably pick it up.

 

I mean he should help out NWA, just to get them noticed, it helps the industry. More people watch wrestling, the more you can gauge what a paying audience likes, the more talent you can easily scout, more money can be made.

 

I hear about Vince helping wrestlers all the time, hell he did fianace(sp)Heyman for a while, but hes not the guy to be spending the money, just a writer/booker. So why not start something new? It would have been a better investment then the XFL was. And I'm sure Vince watches it during footballs off-season so he can get his football kick.

 

Hell why not import Japan wrestling onto heat, you save money buy not running a show, and you know theres already an audience for it, which could get alot bigger if it was put on america tv. Just work out a deal to show old shows on one of your shows, do it in trade for they get American tv time, you get the profits from commercials, everyone wins.

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Why doesnt Vince just fiance someone that he trust, like Shane or Stephaine to start a new rival promotion. And do it away from Vince, get it a deal on a different network, take guys like the Rock, which would make him a MEGA heel, and get ratings

That won't work, it's not real competition. You'd need someone totally removed from Vince, someone who want to drive Vince out of business, in order for it to be competition. And Vince certainly can't have a financial interest in the company.

 

And besides, I don't think either Steph or Shane would want to do that. Hell, shane doesn't even want to run the WWE.

 

I mean he should help out NWA, just to get them noticed, it helps the industry.

Again, that doesn't foster competition. If Vince gives them money, he's going to want something in return, not just the hope that it will stir up competition.

 

Hell why not import Japan wrestling onto heat, you save money buy not running a show, and you know theres already an audience for it, which could get alot bigger if it was put on america tv. Just work out a deal to show old shows on one of your shows, do it in trade for they get American tv time, you get the profits from commercials, everyone wins

But how big is the market? The casual WWE fan isn't going to want to watch Heat if it is all Japanese wrestlers. They don't know the wrestlers, they don't know the language. Plus, Vince won't want the Japanese footage to upstage his own guys. And on top of that, it means less time for your lower card guys to get TV time.

[Guest bob_barron]

Where would Vince get the TV to finance a totally knew promotion and I don't think it's easy to just "import" Japanese wrestling. And I think the audience would be very very small

[Guest webmasterofwrestlegame]

I think now is the WRONG time for any competition to start up. I'll explain why.

 

Its got to the point where only the diehard wrestling fans are watching, and not the casual fans. In order for the casual fans to watch, Vince needs to stumble across the big idea, angle, or wrestler. Who knows what this is.

 

Once casual fans start to watch again, then it is the time to start-up as the fanbase will be there.

 

For NWA:TNA to start up saying that they will offer something different to what he WWE offer (i.e. more wrestling) and for it to fail is no news to me - the market is not there now. In the whole, the only people watching NWA:TNA are those that watch WWE. they have no other alternative audience, and that is why Vince is not bothered about them right now and will continue to release wrestlers.

 

Now NWA:TNA have gone back to Sports Entertainment, which is the right move at this point in time.

 

If/when business picks up again, NWA:TNA should then do something to make them different from WWE to gives viewers (some of whom will be new to wrestling and think WWE IS wrestling) an alternative. We then have real competition on our hands and that is when Vince thrives. They will both be after the viewer, and not sharing them.

 

That is what I think, anyway.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

The problem is a national TV deal. No one wants to have wrestling on their network.

 

I don't know why Vince doesn't promote independant talent on his shows though. Doing a featurette on CZW or ROH or on a particular indy wrestler like Low Ki or American Dragon would do a lot for the promotion and the wrestlers careers. It would make the industry as a whole stronger and have something that competition can grow on.

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Doing a featurette on CZW or ROH or on a particular indy wrestler like Low Ki or American Dragon would do a lot for the promotion and the wrestlers careers

I don't think Vince is at all interested in pimping other feds, regardless of whether it will make the market better or not. Vince wanted to be *THE* wrestling promotion in America (if not the world), and now that he arguably is, he won't want any other fed to rise up to take his spot. Add to that the fact that people might see these "new" guys and see how much better/entertaining they are compared to his guys, and might turn off WWE altogether, and that gives Vince all the more reason to not do it.

[EL DANDY~! 0]

It's just like this. Vince thought that by buying up his competition, that being WCW, ECW, what have you, he would be the number one power. That being said, with his rating dropping to the low 3s, when two years ago he was hitting a 5 with no problem (the real reason talk of SD! being shortened and such is going on) Vince realized that creating a monopoly is NEVER good...especially when the entire premise of wrestling is, you know, COMPETITION. Wow...and we thought Vince was such a smart business man...

[Guest El Satanico]

Vince put everyone out of business so in his mind he has "won" and is the master promoter. Do you honestly think Vince would help another fed out?

 

It's obvious that he doesn't want competition. If he wanted competition he would've let someone else buy WCW.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Here's the thing, the independant promotions won't quickly rise to power to oppose him. However, it would bring attention to them and perhaps double their numbers - and in maybe 5 or 6 years be strong enough to get a national deal when wrestling goes through another 'cycle'.

 

It's not about competition though, Vince has the best minds in wrestling right now under his banner and the best talent as well - his product could be so much better. The dropping ratings should be enough incentive for him to change.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

This retarded. Vince really needs to concentrate night and day about what will make his fed stronger. THAT will help the market a lot more than helping out CZW.