SD thoughts and whatnot

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

...Because I'm so much more deserving of my own thread. =b Actually, it's because I woke up at near midnight today with a wonky biological clock.

 

Is it me, or is Bill DeMott starting to resemble the Undertaker? I thought he shrunk in the wash or something.

 

LOL. Matt was SO not the MVP of the ladder match. For those who lost track, the NM Ladder match was the one that proved what Jeff could become if he stayed off drugs and didn't let his attitude go off the deep end. Problem is, of course, that he's presumably on drugs and his attitude is obviously off the deep end.

 

Matt vs Moore could make some good matches, but they're either going to have to depend on Hardy to hold up all the mic end of everything, give both guys a new partner, or give Moore someone to speak for him. WWE could sure benefit from some good female managers. Instead we have two managers and a number of gals like both Jackies who "wrestle" but are no good at it. *sigh*

 

Chances are they won't even do any of that, and Moore will just return to being the plucky face who looks like a 12 year old on Velocity. I even said out loud "Well, there goes YOUR push" when the swerve happened.

 

Tag match was a complete waste. It was obvious they're trying, hell or high water, to rub some charisma onto Kidman. Yawn.

 

I can't ever remembering seeing Kurt really sell it like he did in that footage. Why not dump the Dawn Marie sketch last week that didn't add anything to her feud and show us that attack on the air instead?

 

That whole promo kicked all kinds of ass. You could see little bits of old Kurt in it too ("While you people work in the farms or at the convenience stores, or whatever it is you do...")

 

I took Buchanan vs Rikishi as an oppertunity to make myself a late-night meal. Doesn't matter who wins here, neither guy has any chance of elevation.

 

Benoit's promo here wasn't as good as the pre-taped one from earlier. They need to stop it before it's overdone, I think.

 

Amazingly, Big Show is actually improving. He's gone from reach Nash-like magnitudes of lazyness, to actually allowing other guys to carry him to watchable matches.

 

I don't know why, but I dig Kurt as this leader-like figure now, after so many years of him doing his own thing. I was kind of afraid it'd drag him down, but so far so good.

 

All in all, best show since the SD6 fighting each other over and over started to get old.

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

re: Matt vs. Moore

 

They did the swerve too soon, IMO. I would have preferred a Matt/Moore team, either doing an Eddy/Chavo "cheat to win" angle, or one where Moore does most of the work but Matt comes in to get the pin, and then takes all the credit, finally snapping because he "has to carry the team" culminating in the swerve from last night.

[Guest notJames]

Moore is dead weight. He brings nothing to the table except a warm body to serve as Hoss fodder. Of course Matt was going to beat on him. He's useless. Send him back to Velocity where he belongs. And tell him to take Kidman with him.

 

I await the evolution of the SD! tag ranks, i.e. Team American Gladiator and Vanilla Twice. Interesting characters for sure, but can they both go as cohesive units? I will hold my tongue until the bodies hit the mat.

 

Thank god for the FFWD button, so I don't ever have to sit through anything Al Wilson is involved in.

 

Rikishi must go. Now.

 

Benoit y Los Guerreros son los mas superior del todo el mundo. Arriba!

 

Did I mention that Shannon Moore sucks ass?

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Boo.

 

Mattitude-cito would rule. Hardy could be all "Adhering to the principles of Mattitude, the whole world is yours for the taking. Now, get out there and beat the Big Show."

 

Or, the best option would be to bring Hurricane back to SD to team w/ Moore. Neither has done anything of note since they broke up the team and moved Helms to Raw. It would add Helms back into the cruiser division, plus give the SD tag ranks a face team, which has been lacking since Rey went out.

[Guest Anglesault]

Moore deserved to be killed just for wearing bell bottoms.

[Guest Goodear]

Is it me, or is Bill DeMott starting to resemble the Undertaker? I thought he shrunk in the wash or something.

 

No way, man. Bill is becoming Rick Steiner Version 2 right before our eyes! The mismatched boots, the pointless matwork... its all coming together. Unfortunately, he's skipping right over the good Rick Steiner times and gone right to the crappy ones.

 

Chances are they won't even do any of that, and Moore will just return to being the plucky face who looks like a 12 year old on Velocity. I even said out loud "Well, there goes YOUR push" when the swerve happened.

 

Moore has no hope if he's going to get pushed against Hardy at this juncture. They haven't allowed Matt to walk over him enough to build the Virgil vibe proper. The bell bottoms are terrible and so is his music, poor job of packaging if I've ever seen one.

 

Tag match was a complete waste. It was obvious they're trying, hell or high water, to rub some charisma onto Kidman. Yawn.

 

I keep wondering how Kidman keeps getting these tag title shots with different partners if he keeps losing all the time. This feud could use some microphone time to get it over because I have no idea why its happening.

 

I can't ever remembering seeing Kurt really sell it like he did in that footage. Why not dump the Dawn Marie sketch last week that didn't add anything to her feud and show us that attack on the air instead?

 

I think they did it to protect Angle a bit. So instead of seeing him get murdered at the edn of last week, we saw Angle and Show clobber Brock. Then this show, we see Brock's revenge but Angle immediately gets his heat 'back' with a promo and the Benoit beat down. Plus it gets Brock on the show without being on the show...

 

I took Buchanan vs Rikishi as an oppertunity to make myself a late-night meal. Doesn't matter who wins here, neither guy has any chance of elevation.

 

And neither should, B2 came back from the break with a better build but the same old sucky wrestling. Rikishi is where he should be.

 

Amazingly, Big Show is actually improving. He's gone from reach Nash-like magnitudes of lazyness, to actually allowing other guys to carry him to watchable matches.

 

Amazingly, Big Show is getting EVEN FATTER! I mean YIKES! He didn't do a bad job of bouncing Benoit around though.

 

I don't know why, but I dig Kurt as this leader-like figure now, after so many years of him doing his own thing. I was kind of afraid it'd drag him down, but so far so good.

 

Indeed.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

Mattitude-cito would rule. Hardy could be all "Adhering to the principles of Mattitude, the whole world is yours for the taking. Now, get out there and beat the Big Show."

 

Looooove the idea!

 

But I got a better one.....

 

Hurricane Helms returns, but not as the Hurricane! But he can keep the green!

 

Ya follow so far? Okay, good....

 

They take the green from Hurricane's outfit and create....THE GREEN CIRCLES~!

 

Ya see where I'm going with this?

 

Matt Hardy v1........Shannon Moore........Shane Helms.....

 

THE NEW 3 COUNT, BABY!!!

 

I know my gal pal would so totally MARK out if Shannon came out and started singing. I know I would too.......

 

Even Shane pointed out in one of his diarys... (see? It's NOT bad to keep a diary....'specially when it's on a website!) ...that fans still bring up 3 Count after all 'dis time. He was telling this to the "man of 1000 abs", Evan.

[Guest notJames]

So you would forego a viable singles push for Matt just to do another hackneyed retread of a tag team that no one gave two shits about? This is worse than everybody wanting another Flock. Somebody derail this train of suck before it hits the station, please!

 

(...no offense to 3 Count and/or Flock fans, of course...)

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

THE NEW 3 COUNT, BABY!!!

YOU MUST DIEEEEE

 

No bad Vince Russo gimmicks, no no no!!! Have mercy!

 

Of course, since D'lo "The Truth" Brown has opened the floodgates, I wouldn't be too suprised if I really saw that.The whole Mattitude thing is way way better. Trust me.

 

That's worse than someone wanting a new Horsemen. Ugh.

 

And Goodear, I actually think Big Show's lost a little bit of weight since the NWO v2 stuff, but I stress the word "little."

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

Noone cared about 3 Count? Hmmmmm...I'd have to disagree on that one.

 

Okay, okay, NEW PLAN FOLKS!!!

 

Hurricane stays the Hurricane....BUT moves to SD anyways.....cuz I said so!

 

Matt continues his singles push....

 

BUT SHANNY NEEDS SOMETHING TO DO!!!

 

Oooooooh.....you mentioned the Flock......GOOD IDEA!! Shany could SO TOTALLY be a goth! Because he was in the group, Raven could handle all the mic work.

 

Thus, MY Flock is made up of : Stevie/Shannon (the tag team), Victoria (valet/wrestler) and RAVEN~!! (mouthpiece).

 

There, everything is solved, everyone's happy......right?

 

EDIT: What's so wrong with 3 Count?! Aside from having GREAT songs (They shoulda released a CD!!!!!), Shane and Shannon are great cruiserweights. I would speak for Evan, but I haven't seen his in-ring work.

 

Their 3 Count song, much like "Always" and "All The Things She Said" (Victoria's theme), repeated the same lyrics OVER AND OVER sooooo much, that it got stuck in your head, bah gawd!

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

I loved 3-Count. It was a great way to get Helms & Moore on TV and get them heat. I even loved Tank Abbott as their manager/bouncer/whatever. Tank groovin' to the tunes was pretty funny.

 

*BUT*

 

Bringing back 3-Count is pointless. No Flock, either (I liked the Flock, too). Just team up Helms & Moore. Moore plays face-in-peril, Helms gets the hot tag, throw in the 3-Count double team moves. IIRC, the fans were getting into the team before they broke them up, so it's not much of a stretch to think it'll work again.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

I only said FLock because I think the Powers That Be are pushing for it. What else could Raven's "Masterpiece" be?

 

Speaking of Raven, even though he goes to RAW next week, I seriously hope they continue with his "7 Sins" segments.....those are.......interesting.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

BUT SHANNY NEEDS SOMETHING TO DO!!!  

Well, Jeff Hardy is self-destructing as it is, so why not put him in that seat as the X-TREe333M!11 "OMG SO HOTTT DROOOOLLLL" guy? Couldn't hurt. All he needs is a ladder match. Just don't do any overly Sick Bumps like Jeff. No jumping off 17 ladders into a Dixie Cup.

 

Since they're so determined to get Kidman over, a Noble/Moore/Kidman ladder match could get them all a career boost at once, but it may not happen if someone plays politics to make sure they don't get upstaged.

 

And no, no Goth stuff please. That stuff is dead already (pun intended.)

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

I didn't mean goth as in Ministry/Phenom...... I meant goth as in Raven-goth.

 

Make sense?

 

X-TREe333M!11 "OMG SO HOTTT DROOOOLLLL" guy?

 

Just figured I'd point out that Shanny and Jeffy are EXTREMELY slashy together. Okay, I'm done

 

Since they're so determined to get Kidman over, a Noble/Moore/Kidman ladder match

 

I don't know why, but Knoble seems out of place there. Prolly 'cuz he ain't as pretty as the other two! HA!! But seriously, I think Hurricane would be better suited for a ladder match instead of Knoble.... or hell, just put all four in a ladder match, give 'em about 20 minutes, and JUST LET THEM GO, BABY!

 

No jumping off 17 ladders into a Dixie Cup.

 

You just took all the fun out life.... *pouts*

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Since they're so determined to get Kidman over, a Noble/Moore/Kidman ladder match could get them all a career boost at once, but it may not happen if someone plays politics to make sure they don't get upstaged.

They're SD guys. HHH left Taker in charge of those guys.

 

But seriously, I think Hurricane would be better suited for a ladder match instead of Knoble.... or hell, just put all four in a ladder match, give 'em about 20 minutes, and JUST LET THEM GO, BABY!

Helms vowed not to do ladder matches anymore.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

Helms vowed not to do ladder matches anymore.

 

Why not?

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

I don't know the whole story. Something about not wanting to set a bad example for backyard wrestlers. I'm not 100% sure on the reason, but that's what I've heard.

[Guest geniusMoment]

I hope your joking when you say 3 counts music was any good.

As for the ideas here, well Shannon sucks, the last time Raven got any kind of push he proved how broken down he was ( anyone who watched ECW on TNN knows what I mean). Jeff Hardy should be fired already for his sloppy work (I am surprised someone isn't dead yet)

In my opinion its a blessing to get Matt away from all of them, why does everyone need to be in groups now, just let Matt develope on his own.

[Guest geniusMoment]

By the way yuna do you really need to mention how hot wrestlers are in every thread. I hate it when posters obsess over the divas and it's begining to bug me now with you.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

I do NOT mention the hotties in every thread, thank you.

 

And I'm not joking when I say 3 Count's music was good. I actually like it, FYI.

 

As for being in groups.....well, it makes sense for guys like Shanny, Kidman....you know, the guys that have good in-ring skills, but not very good mic-skills.

 

Raven being run-down? Good. He's EXCELLENT on the mic, in my opinion, so he'd obviously be the leader of the group, thus, not having to wrestle much.

[Guest Choken One]

NO! Enough of this group nonsense. We don't need another Flock, 3COUNT and Horsemen. Matt Hardy doesn't need to team with Hurricane and Shan just because they are all cute as you say. Fuck that motherfucking bullshit. We only need Team Angle.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

We only need Team Angle.

This needs to be repeated more, to get the point across..

 

We only need Team Angle.

We only need Team Angle.

We only need Team Angle.

We only need Team Angle.

We only need Team Angle.

We only need Team Angle.

 

And of course, I like the idea that the cure for putting over guys with no mic skills is to pair them with MORE guys with bad mic skills. I guess that way they can all be silent together?

 

And if you really REALLY liked that music (and WCW was /not/ well remembered for their entrance music, outside the Porno Song and Flair's 2001) then go find a Best of Jimmy Hart album or something, and let us continue to try and block that period of WCW out of our heads.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

It's kinda funny how this team JUST DEBUTED, and you're already buying into it. It has barely begun, let alone left anything noteworthy. Sure they attacked after the match was over..... that does NOT mean they're the best ever.

[Guest AndrewTS]

3 Count was good in WCW, but not worth reforming. Helms was by far the best wrestler in the group, and Evan Karagias once again had a tag partner(s) who was far better than him. Evan was always kinda blah, with only his look going for him.

 

And last I heard boybands ran their course, so reforming them would be kinda stupid at this jucture, although the gimmick was great for drawing heel heat.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

And last I heard boybands ran their course, so reforming them would be kinda stupid at this jucture, although the gimmick was great for drawing heel heat.

 

EXACTLY!! The surge of pretty boy bands has run it's course....which is why it's perfect to reform them. Noone wants to see them, just like a certain champion (need I say whom?) soooo....the crowds can either do one of two things: a)boooooo b)play dead.

[Guest Anglesault]

BUT SHANNY NEEDS SOMETHING TO DO!!!

 

Oooooooh.....you mentioned the Flock......GOOD IDEA!! Shany could SO TOTALLY be a goth

Time out.

 

No. Uh uh. Absolutely not. No one has cared about this stupid gothic shit in five years, and I thought it was an imbecile trait back then. They can wear their black clothing and nail polish and studded jewelry on some other show. I don't respect their "right to be different." I don't respect their "alternate life style" God damned weirdoes.

[Guest AndrewTS]

Heheh--I picture AS as a grizzled war vet dad complaining about those damn hippies now. Which makes me think of pissed off old man Flair wrecking the Fozzy stage.

 

BWAHAHAHAHA~~

 

Naw, why not be more current, and give them the gimmick of a shitty, annoying nu-metal band? And--huh? They have a band like that already? JEFF HARDY WRITES THE LYRICS?!

 

....

[Guest CanadianChick]

Heheh--I picture AS as a grizzled war vet dad complaining about those damn hippies now. Which makes me think of pissed off old man Flair wrecking the Fozzy stage.

 

BWAHAHAHAHA~~

 

Naw, why not be more current, and give them the gimmick of a shitty, annoying nu-metal band? And--huh? They have a band like that already? JEFF HARDY WRITES THE LYRICS?!

 

....

They have a band?

 

 

 

hahahahhahhahha

 

that has to be the crappiest band *ever*. Who is in this band?

[Guest Anglesault]

Heheh--I picture AS as a grizzled war vet dad complaining about those damn hippies now.  Which makes me think of pissed off old man Flair wrecking the Fozzy stage.

 

BWAHAHAHAHA~~

 

Naw, why not be more current, and give them the gimmick of a shitty, annoying nu-metal band?  And--huh?  They have a band like that already?  JEFF HARDY WRITES THE LYRICS?!

 

....

They have a band?

 

 

 

hahahahhahhahha

 

that has to be the crappiest band *ever*. Who is in this band?

Definately Jeff and Shannon. Maybe Helms.

[Guest AndrewTS]

http://www.peroxwhygen.com/

 

Actually, only Moore and Jeff are in it, but makes me think of 3-Count.

 

Edit: "Jeff Hardy - Vocals"

 

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BWAHAHAHAH!!!