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[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

It's about Angle, and these guys have amateur wrestling backgrounds, which people believe will make them really good wrestlers like Angle, I guess.

 

I'll hold judgment till I see them actually wrestle...which hopefully will be tonight. I think people really dig the matching tights, too, though I would have preferred if they'd come in named Nitro and Turbo.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Yeah, I remember reading all the posts about "the success for the WWE rests on Team Angle's Shoulders," "They represent a new era of elite amature wrestlers" yada yada yada. It's nice that Angle is getting his own heel stable, but what puts this above the usual WWE Group?

 

From what I can tell, the answer is not a whole hell of a lot.

[Guest Insane Bump Machine]

Yeah, I remember reading all the posts about "the success for the WWE rests on Team Angle's Shoulders," "They represent a new era of elite amature wrestlers" yada yada yada. It's nice that Angle is getting his own heel stable, but what puts this above the usual WWE Group?

 

From what I can tell, the answer is not a whole hell of a lot.

I think that everyone finally wants to see a serious Angle push as a badass heel champion. And now he seems to become just that. It also brings in to new faces and immediately gives them a gimmick with a purpose, which is also refreshing to see.

And it IS better than most stables because the wrestlers in it actually have somthing in common and a reason to work together.

 

I also think that Heyman will keep managing Big Show most of the time while Angle will be the leader of his own little faction (aka Team Angle) with Haas and Benjamin.

[Guest geniusMoment]

I think everyone is having flashbacks to the summer of 1997 and the hart foundation. Angle of crutches even made me think of bret and the famous HBK superkick where bret falls back into his wheel chair. The only problem I see is angle doesn't have a red hot up and coming Austin to feud with and doesn't have an HBK type feud, where even marks can see and feel the real animosity causing that anything can happen feel

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Yeah, I remember reading all the posts about "the success for the WWE rests on Team Angle's Shoulders," "They represent a new era of elite amature wrestlers" yada yada yada. It's nice that Angle is getting his own heel stable, but what puts this above the usual WWE Group?

 

From what I can tell, the answer is not a whole hell of a lot.

I think that everyone finally wants to see a serious Angle push as a badass heel champion. And now he seems to become just that. It also brings in to new faces and immediately gives them a gimmick with a purpose, which is also refreshing to see.

And it IS better than most stables because the wrestlers in it actually have somthing in common and a reason to work together.

 

I also think that Heyman will keep managing Big Show most of the time while Angle will be the leader of his own little faction (aka Team Angle) with Haas and Benjamin.

Yes, I can understand the happiness towards Benjamin and Haas being brought in with a gimick, as opposed to the vanilla pushes of Ortan and Cena. However, they'll need more than just a rub from Angle to find success, and they'll need more than amature wrestling backgrounds to get them anywhere. It makes sense to pair them with Angle, but from what I've seen of Benjamin, he's nothing special. Maybe Haas will show more potential.

 

It also makes perfect sense for this board, which has always had a soft spot for Angle, to rejoice at him getting a heel stable. While this will hopefully lead to a succesfull singles push for him, I'm not sure I like how it's started off. I personally got quite fed up over the entire Angle Heel Turn, but hopefully the writing for him will improve.

 

It still seems pre-mature for everyone to be on the Team Angle bandwaggon after they haven't even been around for a weak. It sounds like a nice debut, but we've seen nice debut's before, and they're not always a guarantee for success. Maybe tomorrow I'll see what all the fuss is about.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

Kurty....a badass?? No freakin' way! I'm sorry, but he just doesn't fit the anti-authority/badass persona. He just DOESN'T.

 

Although I would laugh my ass off he ever impersonated SC with his no-hair look (you know it'll happen) and the vests and one more kneepad... Actually, I think Kurty could do a very goofy type of SC.

[Guest BobBacklundRules]

Yeah, I remember reading all the posts about "the success for the WWE rests on Team Angle's Shoulders," "They represent a new era of elite amature wrestlers" yada yada yada. It's nice that Angle is getting his own heel stable, but what puts this above the usual WWE Group?

 

From what I can tell, the answer is not a whole hell of a lot.

It's not how great the stabe is, it's that Angle's background as an amature wrestler and his "mat sense" helps make him a great wrestler, and now there is a stable of amature wrestlers under Angle's support that could become a great team. Think of it as cloning Angle and then teaming up all the clones to fight evil bakstage politics with great technical wrestling, it's like all my dreams are coming true.

[Guest Downhome]

Kurty....a badass?? No freakin' way! I'm sorry, but he just doesn't fit the anti-authority/badass persona. He just DOESN'T.

It does, and he's had that type of character for a VERY short while, and like most other things he does, he did it perfectly.

[Guest Downhome]

Yeah, I remember reading all the posts about "the success for the WWE rests on Team Angle's Shoulders," "They represent a new era of elite amature wrestlers" yada yada yada. It's nice that Angle is getting his own heel stable, but what puts this above the usual WWE Group?

 

From what I can tell, the answer is not a whole hell of a lot.

It's not how great the stabe is, it's that Angle's background as an amature wrestler and his "mat sense" helps make him a great wrestler, and now there is a stable of amature wrestlers under Angle's support that could become a great team. Think of it as cloning Angle and then teaming up all the clones to fight evil bakstage politics with great technical wrestling, it's like all my dreams are coming true.

Not only all of that, but I am one to think that by having Charlie and Shelton working close with Angle, will help them a hell of a lot. In terms on character, mic work, how to work a crowd, in ring work, everything. By being close to this man will only help them, in return, become that much better. I really feel Kurt Angle is the type of person that by working with him, if you have the ability, a lot can rub off on you, and I feel it will for both of these guys also.

[Guest NoCalMike]

All of you interested in Stephanie's nip slip should go on KaZaa and download the Smackdown clip in which she was pedigreed through the annoucer's table. Her boobs busted out of her dress and swung freely while Triple had to stall while Steph tucked them back in....in watching that clip in the unedited manor it was show, it has brought me to the conclusion that Steph's gigantic funbags are better tucked into a tight dress, because when they were exposed they looked like gorilla titties, and the circumference(sp?) of her nipples is bigger than those round paper saucers they use to put your drink glasses on top of at resteraunts.

[Guest Ram]

There's a picture floating around that was close up and gives you a nice shot of them.

 

Either it was a bad picture or she needs boob help.

[Guest Downhome]

There's a picture floating around that was close up and gives you a nice shot of them.

 

Either it was a bad picture or she needs boob help.

I personally enjoyed them, but I could do without silicone, I really don't like that look. Here is an ok look...

 

http://www.thebigwazu.com/sections/photos/...mahon_shane.jpg

 

...I don't see why so many are SOOOOOOOO excited about this though, because it wasn't but for just a second. Still, I'd take her and her funbags, large nipple circumference and all!

[Guest Insane Bump Machine]

Although I would laugh my ass off he ever impersonated SC with his no-hair look (you know it'll happen) and the vests and one more kneepad... Actually, I think Kurty could do a very goofy type of SC.

He already did an Austin parody in 2001 with the milk bath and the bridge incident.

 

Kurty....a badass?? No freakin' way! I'm sorry, but he just doesn't fit the anti-authority/badass persona. He just DOESN'T.

 

Not anti-authority, I didn't say that. You don't have to be a Stone Cold or HHH clone to be a badass. He already played an almost perfect badass once. Don't know when it was exactly, but I remember when he went nuts with the ankle lock for a few weeks and "broke" Scotty 2 Hotty's leg. Good times.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

He already did an Austin parody in 2001 with the milk bath and the bridge incident.

 

I know about the milk truck incident, but...the bridge incident? Care to tell more to a newbie fan?

 

What I meant by parody is an impersonation. Can you imagine Kurty coming out in the black vest, a fake goatee, and talking with a fake southern accent?

[Guest Insane Bump Machine]

I know about the milk truck incident, but...the bridge incident? Care to tell more to a newbie fan?

Well, when Stone Cold and Rocky feuded over the IC title in 1998, there was an incident where Stone Cold threw Rocky's IC title belt off a bridge into the Detroit(?) river. They later did a similar thing where Rocky threw Stone Cold and his Smoking Skull belt off a bridge(was it the same bridge? don't remember). I think that some of this stuff is on the Best of RAW Vol. 1 DVD. I recommend getting the Best of RAW Vol. 1+2 box set to catch up with the stuff during that era, it's awesome.

 

then, during the Austin/Angle feud in 2001, Kurt kidnapped Austin and drove him to a bridge. He wanted a title match against Austin and threatened to throw him off the bridge. Austin began to "cry" and gave him the match. Angle then threw him into a baby swimming pool thing (don't know what it's called, I'm from Germany).

[Guest RickyChosyu]

"It's not how great the stabe is, it's that Angle's background as an amature wrestler and his "mat sense" helps make him a great wrestler, and now there is a stable of amature wrestlers under Angle's support that could become a great team. Think of it as cloning Angle and then teaming up all the clones to fight evil bakstage politics with great technical wrestling, it's like all my dreams are coming true."

 

You can't just "clone" a wrestler. Angle's success as a pro wrestler has little to do with his success as an amature and more to do with his ability to addapt to the pro wrestling environment. From what I've seen of Benjamin, he's got very little to offer in the ring or simply from a charisma stand point. He's just bland. I'll wait until I see Haas to comment on him.

 

"Not only all of that, but I am one to think that by having Charlie and Shelton working close with Angle, will help them a hell of a lot. In terms on character, mic work, how to work a crowd, in ring work, everything. By being close to this man will only help them, in return, become that much better. I really feel Kurt Angle is the type of person that by working with him, if you have the ability, a lot can rub off on you, and I feel it will for both of these guys also."

 

Indeed, they could probably learn a thing or two from Kurt, but I'm not sure it's worth sticking them on TV for that. They're being given an opportunity, the question is, can they take advantage of it and succeed on their own? Are they worth the investment?

 

"There's a picture floating around that was close up and gives you a nice shot of them."

 

Pervs. ;P

[Guest deadbeater]

Brock was an amateur standout. Benjamin was his teammate in Minnesota, and was an All-American in his own right. What more do you want?

 

Oh that's right. They had natural feuds that have been messed up royally. Well, this one must not fail.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Brock was an amateur standout. Benjamin was his teammate in Minnesota, and was an All-American in his own right. What more do you want?

A reason to care beyond the shoot credentials, maybe?

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

I think it's just that a couple new, young guys are being brought in and given a big rub by hanging w/ Angle, Benoit, and Brock right away.

 

I haven't seen Haas wrestle, so I can't comment on him. I've seen a few Benjamin matches on Heat, and have been less than impressed.

 

EDIT: it'd be nice to have a Knoble match, esp. one in which he wins, since they spent about a month HYPING NUNZIO AS THE GUY TO GET HIM BACK ON THE WINNING TRACK

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

Not only all of that, but I am one to think that by having Charlie and Shelton working close with Angle, will help them a hell of a lot. In terms on character, mic work, how to work a crowd, in ring work, everything. By being close to this man will only help them, in return, become that much better. I really feel Kurt Angle is the type of person that by working with him, if you have the ability, a lot can rub off on you, and I feel it will for both of these guys also.

Or they can both turn out like Edge.

 

 

it'd be nice to have a Knoble match, esp. one in which he wins, since they spent about a month HYPING NUNZIO AS THE GUY TO GET HIM BACK ON THE WINNING TRACK

 

More evidence of Heyman being a SUPER GENIUS.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Not only all of that, but I am one to think that by having Charlie and Shelton working close with Angle, will help them a hell of a lot. In terms on character, mic work, how to work a crowd, in ring work, everything. By being close to this man will only help them, in return, become that much better. I really feel Kurt Angle is the type of person that by working with him, if you have the ability, a lot can rub off on you, and I feel it will for both of these guys also.

Or they can both turn out like Edge.

 

 

What's wrong with that?

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

Nothing, I'm just razzing him a bit after seeing that other thread.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

it'd be nice to have a Knoble match, esp. one in which he wins, since they spent about a month HYPING NUNZIO AS THE GUY TO GET HIM BACK ON THE WINNING TRACK

 

More evidence of Heyman being a SUPER GENIUS.

[Heyman Appologist Mode on]Hey, you there! Don't you know that the increase of fat choads like Albert, Big Show, and Bill Demot were all Vince MchMahon's ideas? Err...I mean, don't you know they Johny Aces Ideas? Someone has to take responsibility for this, damit! Of course, every time you see one of those fun, zany tag matches that everyone on the internet likes, be sure to say "Thanks, Paul!" as loud as you can, just so he knows you appreciate the great job he's doing with Smackdown!

 

Did I mention Chris Benoit wouldn't be getting a shot at the world title if it wasn't for Paul Heyman? Dave Scherrer said so.[Heyman Appologist Mode off]