Pack drafting a QB?

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

Packers quarterback Brett Favre recently has said he will play next season, but there was a smattering of speculation inside Green Bay's locker room following Saturday's wild-card playoff loss to the Falcons that he is contemplating retirement.

 

A Packers spokesman said Favre will be available to the media on Monday.

 

Though Favre is expected to continue playing, several Green Bay players, coaches and front-office personnel have noted he's been fairly lethargic for much of the season's second half.

 

Regardless of Favre's status, the Packers have all but decided to use their first-round draft pick on a quarterback.

 

One quarterback on their radar screen is Florida's Rex Grossman, who confirmed Saturday that he is skipping his senior season and headed for the NFL draft.

 

Former Packers GM Ron Wolf, a consultant to the team, told me this week that Grossman reminds him of Favre more than any college quarterback he's seen in the past 10 years.

 

The Packers are picking in the bottom of the first round, but it is a quarterback-rich draft, so the idea of Grossman being available isn't far-fetched.

 

- ESPN.com

[Guest DrTom]

Even if Favre doesn't retire now (and I don't think he will), he's probably only playing one or two more years. They need to draft another franchise QB and groom him behind Favre so that they're ready when he does retire.

[Guest the pinjockey]

They should trade their second round pick for AJ Feeley and yes that is a biased opinion from an Eagles fan who wants an extra second rounder in the draft.

[Guest El Satanico]

Yeah this is a smart move on the part of the Packers. QBs that have been groomed for a year or two behind someone will always be better then a guy starting right away.

 

I won't be surprised if Favre says he's retiring, but I don't see this as a hint that he will.

[Guest El Satanico]

AJ Feely isn't worth trading for.

[Guest Angle Armbar]

No way Favre is retiring now, and I see him around 2-4 more years.

 

However, even if Favre stays there forever, they need to build someone now since they don't have a good backup.

 

Wolf is stupid if he thinks Grossman is Favre. Favre has a rifle arm, Grossman can't zip a 15-yard out. He also sucked pretty bad this year without incredible receivers. I'd say Grossman reminds me more of Danny Wuerffel.

[Guest El Satanico]

No way Favre is retiring now, and I see him around 2-4 more years.

But you're looking at it based on playing ability. If Favre decides to retire it won't have anything to do with his ability to play. It's just a matter of him being mentally ready to walk away.

[Guest DrTom]

Wolf is stupid if he thinks Grossman is Favre.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who did a double-take upon reading that in the original article. Grossman might have an accurate arm, but he can't gun the ball at all. Favre, at 33, still has a rifle for an arm, perhaps exceeded in sheer throwing velocity only by Michael Vick.

[Guest Angle Armbar]

I don't see Favre being any less mentally into the game, though. He's played with the same passion this season as he has his whole career.

 

I don't put much into this rumor, because he was obviously frustrated after that game.

[Guest Angle Armbar]

Wolf is stupid if he thinks Grossman is Favre.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who did a double-take upon reading that in the original article. Grossman might have an accurate arm, but he can't gun the ball at all. Favre, at 33, still has a rifle for an arm, perhaps exceeded in sheer throwing velocity only by Michael Vick.

Bledsoe can throw just as hard as Favre.

[Guest El Satanico]

I don't see Favre being any less mentally into the game, though. He's played with the same passion this season as he has his whole career.

No no you misunderstood what i meant. I'm not saying he's not into the games mentally while he's playing.

 

I'm saying that his retirement will be based on him being mentally ready to stop playing football not on rather or not he has ability left.

 

Being mentally ready to stop playing football is the hardest thing for these guys concerning retirement. I mean hell just look at the guys who lost alot of their ability yet still hung around.

 

So like i was saying if Favre decides he's mentally at a point in his life where he's ready to stop playing football then he will retire regardless of playing ability.

[Guest Angle Armbar]

I knew what you meant, but there's no way to tell if Favre is mentally ready to quit.

[Guest phoenixrising]

Wolf is stupid if he thinks Grossman is Favre.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who did a double-take upon reading that in the original article. Grossman might have an accurate arm, but he can't gun the ball at all. Favre, at 33, still has a rifle for an arm, perhaps exceeded in sheer throwing velocity only by Michael Vick.

You know, a friend told me about this, and we were chatting for 20 minutes trying to figure out how both were similar. Eventually I said maybe parts of their DNA are similar, but why not just clone Favre instead of taking a Florida quarterback given their NFL track record?

 

Seriously, I can't see anything...physically. Perhaps Wolf has noted something in Grossman's character that reminds him of Favre. Or maybe he's been looking at the films so long that anyone would look like Favre at this point.

[Agent_Bond34 0]

Yeah this is a smart move on the part of the Packers. QBs that have been groomed for a year or two behind someone will always be better then a guy starting right away.

 

I agree.

 

Wolf is stupid if he thinks Grossman is Favre.

 

He doesn't think Grossman is Favre, he simply said that Grossman reminded him of Favre.

[Guest DrTom]

He doesn't think Grossman is Favre, he simply said that Grossman reminded him of Favre.

 

He said a little more than that...

Former Packers GM Ron Wolf, a consultant to the team, told me this week that Grossman reminds him of Favre more than any college quarterback he's seen in the past 10 years.

(emphasis mine)

 

That's a pretty direct comparison, and an inaccurate one, IMO. Grossman might be a chap of strong character and have a good head for the game, but the fact remains that he couldn't break a pane of glass at ten yards with his fastest throw. Favre has a very strong arm, certainly one of the three strongest in the league. Modern QBs don't really need rockets for arms anymore, but there are times it helps, and there are a lot of throws Favre can make that Grossman can't.

 

Besides, Florida QBs in the NFL tend to suck.

[Guest Angle Armbar]

Considering Favre was drafted in '91, that 10 years takes care of everyone. Whatever, though. Just comparing Rex to Favre is a joke.

[Guest Choken One]

Remember Favre was a joke to once.

 

 

And besides, Favre wasn't motherfucking jesus baxx in 1991 either...

[Guest Angle Armbar]

Favre showed he had a great arm at S. Miss, he put up huge stats. He showed he had the ability to be an NFL QB when he stopped being immature. Grossman doesn't possess that ability, by a long shot.

[Guest Choken One]

what the Immature part or the Arm throwing?

 

Look, like any other moron, you making comparisons between Modern Favre and a 3 year College Player....

 

You can compare any QB to Favre in some incriate detail

[Guest the pinjockey]

If Favre was that great of a prospect coming out of college why did the Falcons get next to nothing for him IIRC?

[Guest El Satanico]

There's almost always a strong armed QB from a small college in every draft. So i'm sure Favre wasn't considered the star he became out of college.

[Guest El Satanico]

However Favre's prospects coming out of college really isn't a point here.

 

Grossman doesn't have a strong arm. A strong arm isn't likely something a QB can learn unlike accuracy. That's why Grossman can't really be compared to Favre.

 

Maybe Wolf meant his personality because nothing pysically links Grossman and Favre.

[Guest Still Fly]

I think Green Bay should trade up in the draft to get a Farveian QB such as Ken Dorsey or Carson Palmer. These two IMO have are capable of taking over games and making accurate throws. I would have Favre be a teacher type to one of these two players. Green Bay in a couple of years will be rebuilding anyways (these current Packers have nothing on the Super Bowl Team) so why not get an heir apparent to Favre right now? And honestly i cant see the Packers going anywere but first round defeats for the next couple of years. Thats just my take

[Guest the pinjockey]

They wouldn't have to trade up to get Dorsey.

 

Leftwich

Palmer

Grossman (Spurrier will take him)

Simms

Kingsbury?

Louisville QB (forget his name)

 

Might all be taken before Dorsey and there aren't that many teams that need QBs.

[Guest DrTom]

I think Dorsey will be a shitty pro QB. Favre can deal with pressure, can instinctively move around in the pocket to avoid, and has both the quick release and arm strength to get rid of the ball down the field. Dorsey folds under pressure, has a slow release, and doesn't have near Favre's arm strength. Palmer has a much better chance to be a good pro QB, but I'm skeptical of Heisman QBs after some of the last few to go into the NFL.

[Guest Sassquatch]

As a USC fan along with being a Pack fan, it would be nice to see Carson up at Green Bay where he would be surrounded by some of the best QB coaches in the league rather than one of the bottom feeder teams with a shitty coaching staff (ala Jake Plummer).

 

I just don't want to see Carson go down the drain and pick up a bunch of bad habits if he gets stuck with a Cincy or Jacksonville team.

[Guest Choken One]

Green Bay might be better off picking up a Kordell Stewart or Plummer then signing a Dorsey or Grossman.

 

Call me nuts...Spurrior won't draft Grossman first round. If he is open later, sure.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Draft a QB in the late rounds, and if he works out than you have Favre's replacment if not than sign or draft another QB a few years down the line.

[Guest El Satanico]

I don't think Spurrier will go out of his way to draft Grossman either. Yeah if he's sitting there in the later rounds he may go ahead and take him.

 

Spurrier may be cocky and hard headed, but he now realizes that the NFL is vastly different than college and that QBs have to be capable of carrying a team instead of the team carrying the QB. Florida's teams have seemingly always made their QB look alot better than they are.

 

Hell maybe Grossman does have a strong arm and is capable of carrying a team and Spurrier is somehow the only person that knows this. Unless that's true i don't see Stevie going after Grossman that hard.

[Guest Choken One]

What Green Bay needs is a good Reciever.