SMARKDOWN COMMENTS!!!!!!!!!!&#

[Guest Coffin Surfer]

Congratulations to Frost for an excellent match, that I promise to write a review of sometime tommorow. Sadly I had to no show, but it doesn't matter because there's no way I could have came up with a better match.

 

Thanks to Thugg for using me, and putting over the Rolling Elbow.

 

What the hell is with the , I don't remember typing it.

[Guest 5_moves_of_doom]

My match was da bomb.

[Guest AnnieEclectic]

I'm proud of the match I wrote. Even though I wrote to lose, by writing it I got -exactly- the ending I need to propel the storyline I have in the works. I don't know what about this match clicked with me but it's easily the most fun I've had writing a match in a while. Maybe I'm getting back into my groove... we'll see.

 

I'll comment more when it's not 4 AM

 

-Annie

[Guest Ace309]

my match was teh suq because I was writing frantically to make the extension deadline and avoid a double no-show after one of you was nice enough to have a real excuse.

 

Stryke's, otoh, was teh roq.

 

The main event was also sweet.

[Guest 5_moves_of_doom]

Stryke's, otoh, was teh roq.

Actually, that was Bo's match. (Y)

[Guest Ace309]

Either way, it was damn impressive, and so go Bo. (Y)

[Guest AnnieEclectic]

If someone (preferably Danno but whoever is really good at it) could critique my match, I'd be ever so grateful, I wanna know where I could improve on that match....

 

-Annie

[Guest Perfect_Bo]

I did wrote the match, and I was hoping it wasnt 'that' bad...I know I'm rusty, and even though Stryke did 'no show' I think it was pretty good... The main event was the shit and that hardcore match was good as well...Craven did not mentioned the hardcore god of Bo...I'm soo hurt.

 

Anyways, I think it was a pretty good night...

 

More when I wake up

 

Bo

[Guest Powerplay]

Super-duper Hardcore Comments Just For Annie:

 

You put a great match in, Ms. Eclectic. Firstly, your entrances were very good. Giving Ash some heel heat was something good, and throughout the match you played him as a true tweener, which is something we haven't seen in a while. Damn, you put me over as a fucking monster. It's cool, I probably should start going back to that anyways. It did click for me better way back when. The ending, IMO, was brilliant. It got across JUST what you wanted while not draining the heat from the feud. Judge technically gets a submission victory, but Annie chose to faint rather than tap out, ala Hart/Austin. Mike turning on Annie was another golden moment. Really fits a badass tweener type thing to kill an alliance when it's use is served.

[Guest WrestlingDeacon]

Smarkdown Comments

 

Judge/Annie promo

-I like the subtle bit of Mark wearing a Tigers hat and not getting that everyone else is decked out for hockey season. Why would Mental be getting any cheers at all? What’s with everyone thinking that the Hardcore Title is theirs? Ash, Annie; Judge should work with that notion since it’s his title at present. Nice use of history and backstory to work up a focal point to the coming match and establishing the submission credentials of both competitors. However, there even isn’t a passing mention of Ash being involved in the match and that doesn’t bode well for later. If you leave him out of the promo, will you leave him out of the match? I still say that Ketchum has no business being in the match, but he is and you have to use him. I guess I’ll have to read on. The whole “hardcore vs. straight wrestling” feud here is fantastic and very complex if played right. I am looking forward too much more between Judge and Annie.

 

Xero vs. TNT

- I thought I was watching King Kong Bundy vs. SD Jones from Wrestlemania II. I know it’s hard to get up for a no show win (as I figured TNT knew this to be), but this was a perfect opportunity to showcase Thompson’s new wares and personality and it’s a 7 second squash that absolutely destroys and does a great disservice to Xero. I can tell this was written at the last second to avoid a no-show, which is commendable, but I think you just went the totally wrong way with this. I am glad to see TNT back and am glad that he is committed to being more serious and focused while not turning “darker.” The core concept of Xero attacking before the bell and TNT countering is a great start to a match, but the execution of it being the whole match sits wrong with me.

 

Flesher promo

-Hey, more past footage usage. Props to Tom for giving Mak at least a passing mention for their match later when he has a different purpose for being out there. For everyone who wants to be the snotty, arrogant yet cool and funny heel; this is how you do it. Subtle lines like “if there’s anyone in this arena who disputes that you can see me and Judge Mental after the show” and “who leads the only beaver he’ll ever see around by a leash” are hysterical while not comprising the heelish evil of the character. More props to Flesher for bleeping out the swearing. It’s realistic and gets his anger over while not over using swear words to the point of desensitization. Tom’s kowtowing to King is also perfect, that’s the only man Flesher would back down from because he’s the commissioner and Tom is smart enough not to piss him off. With that being said, I think demanding the submission match might have been pushing his luck and King’s expression could have been expanded to show that the submission match falls into his line of thinking. Having ELM use the threat of the “Japanese businessmen” is good by playing on past storylines, but I don’t want to see it become a deus ex machina. The idea of a submission ladder match might be a bit overkill, but I think that Tom and ELM are the only writers in the league that could pull it off to work. I originally didn’t think the mass run in at the end was needed, but on further thinking it helps to set the six man for Thursday and furthers the always existent Mag 7 vs. Carnie feud.

 

Tod vs. CIA

- I think you give short shrift to CIA’s entrance. I also don’t think his challenging of Tod to come out and complain sounds like him. It’s not light enough. Having Tod enter and attack through the crowd is always a classic. That is one of Tod’s strengths as a writer, he knows all the classic bits and uses them perfectly. Hearing Tod’s yelling doesn’t quite work for me, although it helps to flesh out his surly mood and aggression in the match. The only thing you really lack as a writer is better use and more significant commentary. The commentary does pick up as the match goes on, but is missing something and I don’t see Stevens putting Tod over in saying that he’s due a title shot and people are taking notice. Riley, fine, but I think Stevens would harp on his egotism causing him to overestimate himself. The story of the match is something I did with CIA. Viewing him as no threat and just wanting to get past him with the cockiness biting you in the ass. Tod times the comebacks and kick outs well to work the storyline without giving CIA the win, but I think more prolonged offense from him would help to put CIA over further. It’s almost a glorified squash and because of this the chair shot is unwarranted. I never felt that Tod was in danger of losing the match and needed Flesher’s help. The teased handshake at the end is cute and it seeming so choreographed states that they’re fooling the fans into thinking that they’re not in cahoots when they clearly are. Everything I usually say of Tod is true again here, a mastery of fundamentals and match structure that I would recommend for any n00bs to read and learn from.

 

HVT/ELM Promo

-It’s reasonable to have a promo establishing that they are going to go out there and have a good fun match with each other without hostility while still watching each other’s back. It sets the tone for the upcoming match, which is important given the friendship HVT and ELM have displayed recently. Short and to the point. Gold.

 

Bo vs. Stryke

-If we have our own network, it might explain why everyone can swear so much. But what kind of programming do we have on during the day? How many households get this network? Are we affiliated with other wrestling organizations? I know it was a toss off line, but it got me on a whole line of thinking. We have more pass footage usage and I hope that’s a trend, but not one ran into the ground. At the beginning of a match like this it does kind of seem like padding though as Bo’s impending feud with HVT has nothing to do with the Stryke match. Having Riley point out Thugg’s mistakes in the footage is a nice touch though that gives the segment weight. The commentary has a nice conversational feel throughout with a few nice bits and seems better than what I remember Bo writing in his last brief run. You do need to signify who’s speaking once the match starts, either by staying with story form or switching to script like I do. Mark also comes off a little harsher than most write him, but nothing too bad. You could have embellished Stryke’s entrance more as you did with your own. For being the “powerhouse hardcore type” Riley says he is, Bo does a good bit of wrestling. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing though. There are nice wrestling and transitional sequences throughout, especially the opening. I believe hearing that Bo had trouble with grammar and syntax in the past, but it’s all adequate here (aside a few typos). Although, developing a better flow in your writing and language would help for a better flow and pace in your matches. Expanded descriptions are needed for the big trademark moves. Letting Stryke have the win on HVT interference to further that storyline is commendable and I applaud you for putting Stryke over. However, with Tom interfering in the last match it seems like repeat booking. Of course, you had no knowledge of that outcome, it’s just a sticking point.

 

Ash Promo

-Why do a sit down interview instead of the standard pre match promo with Hardy? I don’t see the reason for it. Actually I don’t see a reason for the interview overall. Seems like a bunch of self-masturbatory ego stroking and name-dropping. I think it’s ok to do something like that as a board promo, but not in the middle of a show.

 

Judge vs. Annie vs. Ash

- “Many hold up signs but none are all that witty this week so we don't dwell on it and move on,” then don’t use the standard “signs in the crowd intro,” think of something else. Good use of pre-match commentary to set things up. I don’t know where the “Edwin Knockoff” chants come from. Not saying they’re not accurate, I just don’t remember them ever appearing before. The entrances establish clear face/heel/tweener lines in the characters and with that topper I say this is the best setup match on the card. Nice double team maneuvers to start. Nothing fancy, just effective spots which open well. Subtle introduction of the back psychology, which plays in later. Smart choice in having Ash turn on Annie when he did to give Judge time to recoup. It also utilizes Ash’s recent heel tendencies to maximize Annie’s face value, something I think she is still building from the last turn. The commentators could have talked more about Ash jumping Annie and what that means to his new characterization, though. Annie being tossed to the concrete needs embellishing and expansion. It’s a painful and spectacular spot and Ash just kind of throws her out there. When Judge pulls Ash up, the commentators should have said something about how Judge would prefer to pin Annie instead, increasing their feud. The rolling Germans segment is well written with pacing and staging. I don’t get Judge breaking the pins. I can kind of read how he wants to punish Ash with “real” wrestling, but that needs put over in the commentary even more, and if Judge beats him so fast with just a couple technical moves it proves his point more that Ash and Annie are just garbage wrestlers who can’t stand up to the real deal. I don’t think your frequent use of ellipses are needed. For the length that Annie is out I think you should have had the commentators mention it, maybe even had a shot of her struggling out on the floor. Good bit of character in Annie talking Ash into attacking her and then flooring him. She knows how he ticks after wrestling him so much. When Mark says “it’s been minutes since Ash has moved,” I would judge it only to be about one minute if that. You could have used the commentary to say why Judge doesn’t want the submission over Annie with the pendulum back breaker. I’m guessing that he wants to just punish her more and possibly break her back, but that needs spelled out more. It also seems like Judge should have had this match won several times now, but doesn’t on his own accord, doesn’t seem like him. Kudos for not having the ropes break the hold. I always found it odd when that happened in a hardcore match. But do you still have a triple knockout count? Annie finding her sword is the right way to break the move. It’s not just a key to Annie’s character, but shows that Judge is a bit off in having to deal with hardcore weapons. I think you should have had Ash recover first, since he has been out the longest. You also take Ash way too far out of it at the end, he doesn’t really factor into the finish at all and there’s no reason for him to be there. Ever since Austin passed out to the Sharpshooter everyone’s tried to copy that ending and I don’t like it. I’m not saying this was a direct ripoff, I just have never liked that finish for those reasons. With a little more embellishing of Annie’s pain and determination that would have worked well in putting both she and Judge over. Being a hardcore match, more weapons should have been introduced and used as well. I don’t want to ever thing about Lex Luger “turning” sexually.

 

Flesher vs. Francis

- I don’t think Stevens would drink on duty, although Yuengling is the greatest beer ever in the history of mankind. I don’t think they sell it in Detroit though. The opening banter is just filler. Great job with Mak’s opening, it really puts him over with the detail. The commentators could have speculated more on why Danny is there. I also don’t think Danny would come out with an ICTV title match next on the card. He seems like a character that would be very focused on that type of match and in heavy preparation. I think the superiority cards would be funnier if they rhymed. “Tom Flesher is rule” is just a cool fucking phrase. Great amateur wrestling sequence to open, as usual. What makes those come off well is you clear and precise descriptions. With as much as Mak and Flesher have fought I think you should do a fifteen-minute match of nothing but counters. No moves ever hit, they just keep countering and reversing. You could have played up the Flesher/Francis history much more in the commentary and in the match. You do a nice job of building the crowd support for Francis, as he too is still establishing himself as a face. Props on mentioning how Danny is conditioning the fans to pop for submission wrestling, it’s a subtle way to put him over. The self-referential spiel about the commentary being off is unneeded. It’s like the kids in school who prefaced the answering of every question with “I don’t know if this is right, but…” I used to whip out my dick and piss on those people. I did, I seriously did. If you suck, don’t draw attention to it and if you don’t suck, you look faux humble. I like Danny just watching and critiquing in his mind, that’s very in character. Still, I felt like a greater purpose for him being there should have been spelled out up front. Flesher’s greatest strength is his ability to be very technical and mat based while still writing entertainingly. Good back and forth match with ‘superior’ chain wrestling and transitions. A well-placed high spot earlier would have been cool though. Good clean finish without Danny getting involved, although I still would have liked to have seen more done with him since he was out there.

 

Bo/Thugg Promo

- Thugg left for the photo shoot a while ago and is just starting it? I also don’t think a photo shoot is something the old Thugg would have done, so examining that would have been interesting. More details about the shoot and describing the set in detail would have helped to set the scene better. There’s also no mentioning of HVT interfering in Bo’s match earlier. This is a pretty standard set up for a match, nothing wrong with that per say, but with HVT’s complex characterization of late (which I love) I would have liked for something a little more unique and in depth.

 

Orochi vs. Frost vs. Williams

- I won this on a double no show (understandable on Orochi’s part), which kind of cheapens the win. However, I’M THE ICTV CHAMPION! FUCK OFF LOSERS! Ahh…that’s better. I wound up writing most of this match in and around workers installing all new windows in my house, so that led to me writing very fast and stream of conscious which I believe gave me one of my best paced matches. To be honest, I really can’t remember a lot of what I wrote. I would have liked to have written some more inventive three way spots. My original idea for the finish was to have Frost come off of an opposing turnbuckle when Orochi hits the scum gale on Danny, catch him, and sideslam him down while still finishing the scum gale on Danny. That just didn’t seem too realistic to me, so I scrapped it for a more conventional finish.

 

HVT vs. ELM

- I like going straight into ELM’s entrance, I think it works here in the way you stage it. The commentators should have talked about the setup of the match and the recent and past history between Thugg and ELM before the bell. The playful beginning is fun and a nice touch. Riley’s growing exasperation is a riot. You build the match nicely from them having fun to actually wrestling without one of them getting pissed or something. I question ELM ever kicking out on HVT; he’s too damn big for him. You can tell in the match that two men know each other very well and what to expect. ELM knows when to duck and dodge and HVT knows what he can take and no-sell or kick out of easily. You do a magnificent job with the contrasting styles and sizes. Great spots and move-to-move relation throughout. Hot finish. Good slow build of HVT playing the heel. I don’t see why Flesher would come out with Thugg having ELM beat? With Flesher’s earlier match and interference this seems like a little too much Superior One. As I read it over, it just seems like a way for Thugg to win without directly beating ELM. The Bo run in was unwarranted with the early attack and feels tacked on. I also thought that Xstasy and Thugg didn’t like each other from X’s return. I just could not have read the promo closely, but him making the save also seemed a little tacked on. A promo showing that Thugg and ELM are still cool with each other would be good to see. This was a real different and fun match. I don’t know if it makes for a good main event, but I liked it and it was a nice change of pace from what seemed to be a very intense show.

 

Once again, I get the sense there was a lot of no shows. Let’s get competitive and focused here people. Nothing too earth shaking here, but storylines progressed and most of the matches were a good read that kept my interest. I would like to see people do some promos setting up their role in the Clusterfuck, like the old sound bites before the Royal Rumble that the WWF used to do. This is a big time match, so act like it.

[Guest 5_moves_of_doom]

Xero vs. TNT

- I thought I was watching King Kong Bundy vs. SD Jones from Wrestlemania II. I know it’s hard to get up for a no show win (as I figured TNT knew this to be), but this was a perfect opportunity to showcase Thompson’s new wares and personality and it’s a 7 second squash that absolutely destroys and does a great disservice to Xero. I can tell this was written at the last second to avoid a no-show, which is commendable, but I think you just went the totally wrong way with this. I am glad to see TNT back and am glad that he is committed to being more serious and focused while not turning “darker.” The core concept of Xero attacking before the bell and TNT countering is a great start to a match, but the execution of it being the whole match sits wrong with me.

You try getting the amount of sleep that I was getting and then writing a better match, really.

[Guest WrestlingDeacon]

I wrote the bulk of my match on about five hours, after a night of drinking.

[Guest 5_moves_of_doom]

I wrote the bulk of my match on about five hours.

I got no more than 30 minutes of sleep between Sunday night and Wednesday. Took two sleeping pills on Wednesday allowing me to get just more than 3 hours of sleep. Wrote my match at 1am on Friday morning, after only getting a combined 4 hours of sleep throughout Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night, and Thursday night. Beat that, eh?

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

Maybe you should try some sleeping, tool-boy. AWW SHNAP!

[Guest AnnieEclectic]

Frost, I'd like to thank you for the creative criticism, I really want to get better and while that match was one of my best efforts, I still realize I was missing a good deal of stuff. One question though, you mentioned how many 'elipses' I used.... what are they?

 

-Annie

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

...

[Guest Ace309]

One question though, you mentioned how many 'elipses' I used.... what are they?

 

This, my friends, is irony.

[Guest WrestlingDeacon]

If you do need to know and not being funny, ellipses is the us of "......" to seperate words to show a pause. I know that you use them to show proper time elapse, but I thought it was overdone a bit and one can figure out the slight pauses on their own.

 

I do hope my critique was helpful, Annie, as I took extra time in reading and making comments on your match. Really, I thought it was one of the better matches from you I have read. Great job.

[Guest AnnieEclectic]

It was very helpful, Frost and I thank you quite a bit for it.

 

And no I wasn't trying to be funny, I actually didn't realize the "..." had a name. I do tend to overuse them a bit, I'll try to cut back where they aren't needed.

 

Unfortunatly I didn't have time to go back through and edit what I had done so I might have been able to change a couple of items you mentioned but I probably would have spaced on the rest. I do appreciate the critique a lot as I'm trying to get into the best writing shape I can for the Clusterfuck.

 

-Annie

[Guest HVilleThugg]

Frost leaves me no room to give any good commentary on the show, so all I can really say is good show, but too many no shows.

 

I do have to clear up some stuff from the main event...I like the criticism, so this is just me pointing out some things...

 

On the show where Bo returned, Thugg spoke of X in a friendly manner, which was an indication that Thugg and X are friends. I didn't make a HUGE production out of that fact, because I felt like it took away from the 2 other, more important stories that I was trying to tell. But, it was supposed to be evident already that X and Thugg were friends.

 

I didn't really know what Bo was doing with his match. I did find out that he was going to use me, and I had a feeling it would be a bit much, given my ending. However, I've been having all the fun dammit...it's about time Bo got to do some stuff. Also, I was in NYC since Thursday, and had limited writing time, so I didn't really have the time to change the ending that I had thought up, so I just stuck with it.

 

The Flesher thing was interesting...and it makes sense to me why he would come down. Simply put, just to beat on ELM, but now that I think about it, he would have been better served to wait until Thugg had pinned ELM to go and have his way. The decision to do this came in a very interesting fashion. I had about half the match written when I realized that I had forgotten about the No-DQ stip. Secondly, I needed to do something to bring the ELM/Flesher thing into the match. At first I didn't care about Thugg getting a clean win, and I was going to do it, but then I thought it would be better for Thugg's new "pussy" personality if he didn't get a clean win. I think it would have worked if not for some things that happened earlier in the show...but I didn't know about those, so oh well.

 

As far as the photo shoot promo...it would have been like 150% better if I had spent more that 3 minutes writing it. I was on my way out on Friday, in NYC with one of my best friends, so I had to literally spit it out. She wouldn't have been happy to hear that I had to hold us up so I could write a promo, so that's why I didn't go into the detail I needed to in order to really get that promo across.

 

As far as my match is concerned, I think this was the happiest I've been with a match since I returned. I loved writing that beginning, I really felt great about how it was flowing. As far as ELM kicking out of Thugg...well...shit...I think i just described it wrong. He's nto really kicking out, he's just turning his shoulder up as Jeff Hardy would do against Big Show. I just didn't want to waste words describing that every time, so I figured that people would figure it out. But I felt much better about that match than any others since I returned, and it makes me want to stick around.

 

All in all, I think it was a decent show, but the no shows are very discouraging. Did ELM no show? He better not have...Congrats to Friost for locking down that ICTV title! And a thanks to him for his in depth commentary on the show, which I think is great. It's nice to see someone reading the whole show and giving feedback for everyone. And, it's also very nice to see someone giving HONEST feedback instead of just saying that everything on the show rocked as to not hurt people's feelings. I'd go into a long tirade about the show, but in order to do that, I'd have to read it a bit more carefully. I got home from NYC at like 12 last night, so I haven't gotten to do more than skim the show and read the promos, so...

 

Hey Danny...did I sell your Rolling Elbow right?

 

Da "that's a long ass post that says very little about the show" H

 

PS - OH, and by the way...I JUST HIT WIN #50!!! WOO HOO!! ANOTHER MILESTONE!

[Guest Ash Ketchum]

Well Frost was kind of right on my promo's analysis, but he forgot to mention that there's a part 2 coming up on Storm. And that one is better.

[Guest 5_moves_of_doom]

PS - OH, and by the way...I JUST HIT WIN #50!!! WOO HOO!! ANOTHER MILESTONE!

Sorry Thugg, but accoording to Ash's sig, he has 67 wins, and therefore towers any accomplishment that you make. There'll always be someone better Thugg. Always.

[Guest Ace309]

I just hit win #30, proving that no matter what I do, Thugg will have done it already, and done it better.

 

(Note: Does not apply to women)

[Guest HVilleThugg]

Well, Ash has also been around more than twice as long as me. He was here long before I was, and he didn't retire for 9 months. Also, I only have 17 losses, and I think Ash has more. So, TNT, you can shut the hell...

 

Oh...wait...you were just trying to be funny. Oops...hee hee. Nevermind.

 

Da "has done it all" H

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

Ash, I'm not sure that's such a good idea, at least not if it's going to be in the same vein. I'd suggest very much revising it if it's going to be another extensive sit-down piece that doesn't do much. It gives us a lot of Craven's opinions on other SWF people, but it doesn't say much about his own character, nor does it work much towards that big evolution you seem to be looking for.

 

The way Annie portrayed Craven in her match was pretty interesting, and I think you'd do well to try to springboard off some of that. Or at least make sure Part 2 has a little more depth to it.

 

Edit: Also? ::hits win number 50 while Thugg was off somewhere with a broken neck:: Eat a bag of dicks, softy!

 

HVT Edit: GRRRRR!! Bite me quitter!

[Guest Powerplay]

Well Frost was kind of right on my promo's analysis, but he forgot to mention that there's a part 2 coming up on Storm. And that one is better.

Mike, Frost WAS right in his promo analysis. It really wasn't much more than saying "Hey, everyone around here is cool and I admire them all." I mean, I'll point out a few of the glaring flaws:

 

1) The point of the promo: What? I really DON'T see a point to a promo like this. It's just name dropping and other things. On the show, promos should further the plot. This did nothing for the upcoming match, not even the Hardcore Title and what it means to you. If you had talked about how you have a personal kinda connection to the Hardcore Belt, and maybe people who inspired you to go for the Hardcore Wrestling, then this could be a great promo and something that really built up the upcoming match.

 

2)You totally break Kayfabe. You say you admire Strangler, a man who made your former Stablemate RETIRE, a leader in the old Magnificent 7, and someone who was generally hated by all. You should hate his guts as well as...

 

Thugg. I'm sorry, I would feel a little sorry for the guy, but ya know, he was one of the biggest heels ever. He also generally tried to destroy every good guy (And bad as well) in his path. He really isn't a hero, and if you are a face (which it seems you are), you shouldn't say you admire the guy.

 

3) "Face/Heel: Badass/Angry/Semi-Paranoid Tweener (Face w/Heel Tendencies)"

 

This is from your stats. In that interview, I see Ash Ketchum, not a bad ass. When you first made the change over to Michael Craven, you had a line saying "... Says Grand Slam, considering the possibility of another Steve Austin." Now... would Steve Austin have Action figures of other guys at home, or even action figures at all? I mean, you haven't switched to tweener even. You've got all the same moves, name changes, but you haven't switched and it doesn't seem like you have even made an effort to. You shouldn't GET the massive face pops you get if you are a tweener. You should get some boos in there as well. Personally, I think Annie's match did the most for your tweener turn than anything else up to now. Your last promo was good, turns you back into Ketchum, and you are back where you started.

 

4) Frost is right, this shouldn't be in the show. This is a board promo, and it doesn't really fit in the context of the show at all. Would you see what seems to be a shoot interview on Smackdown or on Confidential? Confidential, right? If you do do two more, make them board promos.

 

Mike (Because you aren't Ash anymore), I'm saying these things not to flame you, but to help you. If you want to change, don't give them Ash Ketchum in a new T-Shirt. Hopefully you'll heed my words here, and I'll eagerly await a response.

 

J

 

Edit: Damn you, Edwin. I work on this long response and you sneak in and get yours in first. Damneth you.

[Guest HVilleThugg]

Thugg. I'm sorry, I would feel a little sorry for the guy, but ya know, he was one of the biggest heels ever. He also generally tried to destroy every good guy (And bad as well) in his path. He really isn't a hero, and if you are a face (which it seems you are), you shouldn't say you admire the guy.

 

Uhhhhh...Judge? What the hell are you talking about? Admire who? Wha? I'm very confused...what exactly was this in reference to?

 

Da "damn yoots not makin' sense" H

 

EDIT: I'm such a tard. You weren't talking to me, you were talking to Ash, saying that he should hate me. Although, I have to ask why Ash should have Thugg? That goddamn blank line before that quote threw me off. For now on, don't use any blank lines, and for that matter, don't use any hard returns...or I will

 

WRECK

 

 

YOUR

 

 

SHIT!