My only Disappointment...

[Guest Choken One]

My disappointment in the Internet Wrestling Community continues to erode further and further. Last night, As you all know was The 15th annual Royal Rumble Classic. Easily, my personal favorite Wrestling event. I was somewhat hesitant going into the PPV. I called up a few friends of mine and we went to BW3’s. We arrived around 7 o clock and the place was packed already, I bumped into a few more of my friends there and we decided to all hang together. I brought them all Wings and Beer. The crowd there was HOTT, Great looking chicks all around the place and filled with Exuberant teens. It was a blast and everything was great, Even Steiner-HHH, A match I seriously dreaded to see wasn’t all that bad. The sight and sound of about 300 people going OOH and AHH with each German suplex and spot in the WWE Title match was something special.

 

The rumble was a Blast, A lot of fun between The Jericho Fans (Including I), The RVD fans and Brock Fans. The 50 minutes flew by fast and It was a blast, even though Jericho lost via elimination from Test. I left that Bar satisfied of seeing a Great PPV. I came home, got on here expecting to see the same reaction. What do I get?

 

“Bullshit!” ‘GOD DAM WWE FUCKING IDIOTS!” “TEST ELIMINATED JERICHO!” “Fuck YOU Vince!” “Hossamania!” “I hate you VINCE!” “Worst Rumble Evveerrr!”.

 

Bang. There went all my enthusiasm. Deflated. Dead. I sadly disappointed me to see that once again. You guys are NEVER EVER satisfied. You asked for Beniot to get a push…You got it! Your reaction “FUCK! Beniot is just being screwed, AGAIN! God Damn Fucking Vince, I hope you rot in hell”. You wanted HBK to lose and put over Jericho, he does, somewhat and your reaction “GOD DAMN HBK, Fucking crippled Has-been! I Hate you VINCE!”. All of you guys said, Brock winning the Rumble was the logical and best thing to do, what do we get? “GOD DAMN IT! BROCK=Goldberg! Fuck you Vince, Die!”.

 

You took an rumble, one of the better rumbles in years and focused on TWO fucking details…Test eliminating Jericho and The final four of Batistia, Kane, Brock and Undertaker. Not the 43 minutes Jericho had, Not the sudden elimination of HBK, Not the great 20 minutes with Jericho, Edge, Rey, Matt, Jeff, Tajiri, Dreamer, Christian and Nowinski.

 

Test eliminating Chris Jericho should have NO bearing on your opinion whatsoever because It meant nothing. The important thing here is that they have added another element to a so far nicely built storyline between Jericho and HBK likely to climax at WM. The Hosserfic final four shouldn’t matter anyways, Aside from Batistia, Logic clearly states that Kane should have been in the final 4 (as a multiple finalist, it makes sense he have the history of good rumble outings), Undertaker returned and had to salvage something out of it.

 

Brock Lesnar winning the Royal Rumble wasn’t a bad thing, I’d preferred Jericho, But Brock Lesnar was just as logical as HBK winning in 1995 and 96, as was Austin in 1998, Why such an indifference here?

It seems from tonight, we’re getting Brock Lesnar backlash 2.0 and know what? It’s unjustified. Brock ever since turning face at Survivor Series has been an very good face and the crowd has been behind him, NOT because he is “GOLDBERG 2.0” but because they like him. You can claim they are shoving him down our throats but they are shoving HHH, Steiner and HBK down our throats and the casual fans are spitting it back up. They haven’t spit Brock out.

 

So, Tomorrow night, another night of Raw will ensue JUST for the sole purpose for you and the rest of the Scott Keith influenced IWC to complain and cry about.

 

It’s a Shame, Tonight was such a good night.

[Guest candie45]

Oh joy. Another fucking rant on how cynical the IWC is. Wah wah. (if you can't tell I'm in a really bad fucking mood right now thanks to my shitty friends)

 

Benoit/Angle was great. The first part of the Rumble match itself was great. Jericho was great. Everything else sucked. I'm sorry not all of us were drunk and had a bunch of crazy fans around us. Most people *did* focus on Jericho eliminating HBK so early and how good he was looking for some of it. Test eliminating Jericho was bad because first of all, it was Test. Secondly, because someone predicted it in the thread. Thirdly, because Jericho was looking to make it to at least final 4 and he was eliminated abruptly- by Test.

[Guest Dr. Wrestlingphysics]

The royal rumble was good between the start of Angle v Benoit, until Jericho getting eliminated from the rumble match.

A rowdy crowd and a good atmosphere can make even the biggest pile of shit enjoyable, and while I don't want to detract from your good time, what we actually saw was largely crap!

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Most people hear aren't mad that Brock won, it's that he came in 29th, and didn't have to do anything.

[Guest The Mighty Damaramu]

I liked the show.

The rumble was great. The Matt/Shannon stuff was hilarious. Test eliminating Jericho was a minor thing because Test won't even be mentioned tomorrow night in regards to this, all the heat will be on HBK costing Jericho the match. And if anything is said about it it'll probably be in the form of Jericho beating Test.

And yes the final four was a bad decision but hey the rest of the rumble was great and it was good to see Brock toss Taker, because well the more Brock goes over Taker the happier I get.

And the Angle/Benoit match was great. When did anyone complain about that? I mean most people are just wondering where Benoit goes from here. I mean he couldn't be put over for the title but he easily became the #1 or 2 face in the whole WWE. I like everyone's idea of having him beat HHH though.....hopefully that happens.

[Guest Coffey]

Sounds to me like you thought it was good because of all the marks around you at BW3's blowing things out of proportion.

 

Try watching it again.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Test eliminating Jericho was a minor thing because Test won't even be mentioned tomorrow night in regards to this, all the heat will be on HBK costing Jericho the match. And if anything is said about it it'll probably be in the form of Jericho beating Test.

Imagine if Test would beat Jericho tomorrow. You'd be hearing stories about Vince McMahon's mansion being burned to the ground by a bunch of crazed smarks.

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

Seriously, Brock coming in so late wouldn't have been bad at all if Jericho had still been in at that point to give some suspense as to who won. Hell, even the biggest marks in the bar tonight called Brock as the winner the moment Jericho was gone.

 

"Predictable" was the word used a lot. I was entertained more than I would have been watching it at home, but the event really was pretty blah. Not bad, but just blah, minus the WWE Title match and the Rumble until Jericho was gone.

[EL DANDY~! 0]

Choken, what we don't like seeing are these people who Vince likes getting pushed when the people who are supposed to be receptive, the fans, aren't really receptive at all. Remember the Big Show and that title reign? Over half the fans probably don't. We want the smaller guys because it would be something new and fresh and it may *gasp* make ALL fans happy! So don't be looking for this optimistic bs from us when we give our opinions on here. This is a message board for a reason. It's to voice opinions. I'm not turning down yours. I'm just saying that you are looking for sympathy and that most of the people on here probably won't give it to you.

 

And while I do like Scott Keith and I do work with him, I don't agree with all of his words. I think the 2/3 falls Steamer/Flair match was better than the WrestleWar '89 match. It's an OPINION. No one person is right. We all think we are, but we all aren't. We're all frustrated with what's going on, but we can't do a thing about it except express our shame and discomfort with all of it. SK gets all that shit because he came up with all these things and he wrote a book and yada freakin yada. And while I didn't order the PPV, tonight DID seem like a good night to me. And SK put that match at ****3/4 stars...

 

Star ratings are useless. There. I said it. All it is is a number. That's like saying that instead of giving 2 to a guy who wants an even number, you give him 4. A "DUD" to some might be *** or more to many. We all know what we think is good and what we think is bad. Putting a star rating on a match just makes YOU feel better because you might get ONE person to agree with you. Fact: Every match Flair and Steamboat had in 1989 was a great match. Fiction: All of them are *****. Well, what is ***** to you? And that isn't just to Choken. That's to all? We all have different reasons. Just don't think that we aren't all drones. We aren't. We can think for ourselves...

 

EL DANDY~!-And I'm pissed off about this shit right now...

[Guest Vern Gagne]

SK still gave the Rumble ***3/4 stars. Not that you or anyone should care what anyone else thinks.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

I liked the show. I was thinking to myself "Hot damn, this company STILL knows how to do Pay Per View" until I browsed the forum and looked away from the monitor to see that Booker T had come and gone from the Rumble already and RVD was alone with power wrestlers. That kind of booking is both incredibly biased (in the "big men are the only ones who deserve to win" sense) and stupid (why was RVD kept so long but Booker gone in the blink of an eye? To compensate for the Elimination Chamber match three months ago??)

 

In conclusion, I don't like some of the opinions here (especially the "I REALLY like/dislike [name]" people) but I understand that I'm not being forced to come here either.

[Guest bravesfan]

Wait, did anyone expect ANYTHING worthwhile from Trips/Steiner?

 

Dawn/Torrie?

 

Dudleys/Can-Eng Connection?

 

So what were you expecting from this show? Shit, people are calling it "disappointing" when everything that was supposed to deliver DID deliver, and everything that would outright suck shit, DID SUCK SHIT.

 

So why the fuck did any of y'all buy the PPV and come on ranting on this forum about how it "disappointed" you?

 

--The Rumble, from what everyone has said, was great. In the Top 5 Rumbles ever. The brand-split actually created a few great moments of reuniting, with the Hardyz and Edge-stian.

 

--Jericho being eliminated. MAYBE, just maybe, this is a beginning of a PUSH? 6 months ago, he was jobbing to John Cena for chrissakes; now he went 45+ minutes in a Rumble, only to be distracted by the Former Champion, setting up a match at No Way Out and Wrestlemania. And this is "disappointing", why? Because he isn't being buried by Trips anymore?

 

--Brock winning. If the fans want him to win, HE WILL WIN. He is the only monster that is deserving of a push, so let's just buckle down and enjoy a good build-up to Angle/Lesnar at Wrestlemania. Lord knows, no one complained when Austin won the 2001 Rumble, setting up ANOTHER match with the Rock at Wrestlemania. Gee, was that build-up and subsequent match any good?

 

--Benoit showing that he should not be ignored. "Fuck Vince for having Benoit earn the fan's respect....fuck him for turning Benoit into a contender for the top belt of either brand...fuck him for having Benoit put on **** match after **** match". Benoit is at the highest point in his U.S. wrestling career (in terms of card placement) and WE MOAN.

 

--Big Show being depushed. WHY PEOPLE WHY?!?....

 

Everything else, turned to be as predicted: case in point, Booker being disposed of quite quickly. If there was anything NEW to moan about, it would be the uncertainty of where Benoit is headed after this, and the early booking of Brock/Angle for Wrestlemania 19.

 

Rant over. Flame me if you wish.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

Wow, I note some real SK disdain with that "the Scott Keith influenced IWC" comment, even though Keith gave the show a much better review than many people here. Yeah, that's logical........

 

I really really doubt the contrasting comments were being made by the same people, thus putting them in the same sentence as if everyone here has an extreme bipolar disorder is rather inaccurate.

 

Personally, I thought the PPV was all right. Sure the ending of the actual Rumble went into a lull but the opening 2/3 of it was good enough to make it a thumbs up Rumble. And there's nothing wrong with that.

 

Still won't get me to watch RAW though. Smackdown totally carried this puppy tonight.

[Guest Joejigatame]

Choken, I think the answer to your problem is obvious...just avoid the IWC. You'll enjoy the product a lot more if you switch of the internet for a short time. A problem around here is that people seem to put credence in what everybody else thinks. Who cares if other people didn't enjoy the PPV? You did, you got your moneys worth. At the end of the day, that's what should matter.

[Guest The Old Me]

Okay, HHH/Steiner was the shitfest we all expected and hopefully they can move on to something else. Dawn vs Torrie, was well, Dawn vs Torrie. The tag team title match was not very entertaining.

 

All of the above was shit.

 

Angle vs Benoit OWNED as usual and Brock got another watchable match out of Show. The rumble, I thought was good, albeit anti-climactic at times. I thought Jericho murdering HBK was gold, and hope they do the double turn. I agree Brock should have come in way earlier, and has some interactions with Jericho, and I'm glad Brock won the RR.

[Guest Trivia247]

I think its not as bad as most PPVS

 

strange to see HBK come out so ineffective to Jericho's Onslaught so early, and only manage to throw a punch when he made his run in.

 

Im Not to upset about Test Eliminating Jericho. I don't know where these people get so SHOCKED AND HORRIFIED! Test how DARE HE! Maybe because he was scripted too... geez people. lets not get into a Mark Fit.

 

I didn't bitch and moan for Taker getting tossed, I saw it coming and that was ok.

 

Scott Steiner disappoints me. a dozen Belly to belly Suplexes was NOT in the Program?

Whatever happen to the Screwdriver? The Tilt a Whirl Slam? The Top rope belly to belly, the German Suplexes, the Butterfly Suplexes, the Tiger Drivers, the Reverse tiger Suplexes? Hell a Bulldog???

[Guest The Old Me]

Whatever happen to the Screwdriver? The Tilt a Whirl Slam? The Top rope belly to belly, the German Suplexes, the Butterfly Suplexes, the Tiger Drivers, the Reverse tiger Suplexes? Hell a Bulldog???

ROIDS and an old body. He'd KILL people if he did those moves today.

[Guest alfdogg]

He did TRY a butterfly suplex...

[Guest Downhome]

However great some things on the PPV were, Benoit/Angle, their seemingly being set in stone finally, the BEGINING of the Royal Rumble (untill Rosey came in) then ending can make or break a match for a lot of people.

 

1) There was no reason for Brock to win, none at all. We all know he'll wrestle Kurt Angle at WM, so why so the obvious thing?

 

2) He came in at #29, or something close to it, the only thing of note he did was come in and throw out Matt Hardy, then did basicly nothing. He didn't even work to throw out Taker, just pushed him over the top when his back was turned.

 

3) The last for in the ring was a resounding symbolic gesture from WWE to us the fans, as to the current state of their product.

[Guest Ace309]

I just have a question.

 

Can ANYONE be dissatisfied with the rampant, ridiculous negativity showed by a few members of this board without being accused of 'ranting on the IWC?'

 

Test eliminated Jericho so that nobody would bitch about HBK eliminating him illegally! They barely even SHOWED Test! It was a wide-angle shot, you could make out his tights, and they didn't make a big deal out of him. Immediately, they cut to Jericho/HBK on the outside, which we KNEW was going to be a WM match, and which they set up in a pretty cool manner imho.

 

We KNEW the first three matches were going to suck. At least the Dudley Boys got a decent revenge finish, and at least they kept the ladies' match short.

 

Angle/Benoit was amazing. The only gripe I had with it was that the finish really should have been Benoit going back to the sharpshooter and Angle countering THAT into the LEGSCISSORS ANKLELOCK OF PURO DEATH. Why? Because when Benoit inexplicably started doing the Sharpshooter early, that's what I started to want to see.

 

Other than that, I really don't understand why so many of you hated the show.

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

I enjoyed everything but HHH/Steiner, which I didn't even watch (the joys of needing to take a huge crap and feeling the urge to shave, eh? )

 

Only REAL complaint (aside from the obvious of HHH/Steiner sucking more ass than a German porn star) was the Final 4 in the Rumble.

Undertaker: Didn't mind that he was in the Final 4.

Kane: Didn't mind that he was in the Final 4.

Brock: I wanted him to be in the Final 4, and knew he would be.

Batista: WHY?!

 

Batista is a no-talented, unover piece of utterly useless trash. He's all look. Fuck, even his CLOTHESLINES, the easiest move to make look half-good, look like PURE SHIT.

 

If Jericho had made it to the Final 4, then have HBK run out and distract him so Kane or 'Taker or Brock could eliminate him...would have been a MUCH better way to book the ending.

 

As it stands, enjoyable Rumble.

[Guest Ram]

Brock's winning adds steam to the WrestleMania match. It's got two months to build now and that's more than enough to become a huge blockbuster. I think the right guy won.

 

I thoroughly enjoyed the show. Torrie/Dawn was fun in a WTF kind of way. The tag match was only watchable for the crowd. Steiner/HHH was awful, but better than I expected. Benoit/Angle was an awesome match. The Rumble itself was way enjoyable and fun to watch the entire time. I was rooting for Jericho, but it's better this way. The HBK/Jericho match is gaining momentum and I'd much rather have HBK put over Jericho than Jericho have to lay down for HHH again.

 

But that's just me.

[Guest The Old Me]

I enjoyed everything but HHH/Steiner, which I didn't even watch (the joys of needing to take a huge crap and feeling the urge to shave, eh? )

 

Only REAL complaint (aside from the obvious of HHH/Steiner sucking more ass than a German porn star) was the Final 4 in the Rumble.

Undertaker: Didn't mind that he was in the Final 4.

Kane: Didn't mind that he was in the Final 4.

Brock: I wanted him to be in the Final 4, and knew he would be.

Batista: WHY?!

 

Batista is a no-talented, unover piece of utterly useless trash. He's all look. Fuck, even his CLOTHESLINES, the easiest move to make look half-good, look like PURE SHIT.

 

If Jericho had made it to the Final 4, then have HBK run out and distract him so Kane or 'Taker or Brock could eliminate him...would have been a MUCH better way to book the ending.

 

As it stands, enjoyable Rumble.

Batista's a HOSS~ BY GAWD! I'm surprised they didn't use the rumble to further have Batista squash everyone.

[Guest TUS_02]

I would rather have Jericho go to Wrestlemania fighting for the title. But I would like to see Jericho and HBK wrestle... but it has to be Jericho going over... it just has to be. And book it like they did with Angle/Benoit. But it was a KILLER seeing Jericho getting thrown out. So depressing.

[Guest bob_barron]

I thought the show was very good. I enjoyed the Royal Rumble and yes Brock deserved to win to add to the importance of the RR.