Guest Whatmaniac Report post Posted January 25, 2003 Rico would be a superb choice for the 4th horseman. He can help the other with their wardrobe and it would get him away from the 3 Minute Warning. Just out of curiosity though, Why is it when Kurt Angle gets Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Hass, no one bats an eye, yet when HHH does the same thing with Batista and Randy Orton, it is seen as a serious ego trip on the main-eventers part. One would think that the net fans would be happy that HHH is giving some rub to the up-and-coming young stars. What makes "Team Helmsley" any different than Team Angle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NoSelfWorth Report post Posted January 25, 2003 It'd also help if he didn't do any high flying. He could tease it, and then stop, flipping off the fans. Like Cactus Jack during his anti-hardcore stint in ECW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted January 25, 2003 The biggest problem with Team Helmsley is the rumor that it was going to be the HHHorseman and that was going to be shitting all over the name. Can Hardy wrestle w/o high-flying? (Waits for the obvious "He can't wrestle with high flying) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted January 25, 2003 Rico would be a superb choice for the 4th horseman. He can help the other with their wardrobe and it would get him away from the 3 Minute Warning. Just out of curiosity though, Why is it when Kurt Angle gets Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Hass, no one bats an eye, yet when HHH does the same thing with Batista and Randy Orton, it is seen as a serious ego trip on the main-eventers part. One would think that the net fans would be happy that HHH is giving some rub to the up-and-coming young stars. What makes "Team Helmsley" any different than Team Angle? Batista and Orton suck? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 25, 2003 Rico would be a superb choice for the 4th horseman. He can help the other with their wardrobe and it would get him away from the 3 Minute Warning. Just out of curiosity though, Why is it when Kurt Angle gets Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Hass, no one bats an eye, yet when HHH does the same thing with Batista and Randy Orton, it is seen as a serious ego trip on the main-eventers part. One would think that the net fans would be happy that HHH is giving some rub to the up-and-coming young stars. What makes "Team Helmsley" any different than Team Angle? Batista and Orton suck? Quite a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Whatmaniac Report post Posted January 25, 2003 So basically, HHH is giving the rub to the wrong guys. Who should be in Team Helmsley instead of Batista and Orton? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted January 25, 2003 In the end HHH will not be giving the rub to anybody I would imagine. So let these people be in the team so you don't ruin quality people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted January 25, 2003 Kurt Angle will (likely) put over his "team," and has already had them in good matches with Benoit, Edge, and the like. Triple H will wrestle all the big names himself, and Batista and Orton will do the "kick his ass some more" post-match cleanup. They themselves will be wrestling Tommy Dreamer and Spike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jester Report post Posted January 25, 2003 Why is it when Kurt Angle gets Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Hass, no one bats an eye, yet when HHH does the same thing with Batista and Randy Orton, it is seen as a serious ego trip on the main-eventers part. 1. HHH gets yet another major angle despite being injured, boring, and not over enough to justify the effort that has gone into him. 2. The potential that a great stable of wrestling will be shat on yet again. 3. Team Angle is a new stable idea, and it fits the character of Kurt Angle. It rubs the ego of Kurt Angle, THE CHARACTER. The Horsemen is a recycled idea the rubs the ego of the PERSON of Jean-Paul Levesque. 4. Orton showed signs of getting over on his own. He should be given that chance. 5. People are still trying to figure out why HHH has Flair hanging around, since HHH does most of his own promo work and can even win matches on his own. Does he really need two (or maybe three) more wrestlers to back him up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted January 25, 2003 If Rico actually wrestled TV matches and had a revamping of his character, he'd make a decent Horseman. Rather, he's the gay guy managing the fat Samoans, who used to manage Billy and Chuck. Hell, when is the last time Rico even got mic time? And even if Orton and Batista didn't suck, it wouldn't matter. They'll be simply HHH's lackeys anyway. However, if it were good workers at least it wouldn't sully the Horsemen name any more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted January 25, 2003 It's as if some people haven't seen Raw or seen anything concerning HHH for months now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Showstoppa Icon Report post Posted January 25, 2003 i think you are all overlooking the most obvious choice here, hire Mongo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted January 25, 2003 i think you are all overlooking the most obvious choice here, hire Mongo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted January 25, 2003 I've got a radical idea, although it couldn't be implemented because of the stupid ass brand split and Mr. Helmsley's ego. How about the Rock? Rock would be an awesome addition. He'd also have to be the main guy in the group.(something HHH isn't going to have) I'd have it to where Rock would be in Ric Flair's role, HHH would be Arn Anderson and the other 2 can just be the other 2 and hopefully get some sort of rub. Actually, I see Orton as a Barry Windham type because of that cockiness he has. I'd have Rock be the one who is champ or chasing the champ and HHH to be the one who bails him out when he gets in trouble. This also frees up HHH to feud with midcarders like Booker or RVD while Rock can feud with whoever is in the top babyface slot. At least with Rock in the top horseman spot you'd have a half way decent worker who could have good matches on top. Of course all of this would be predicated on HHH being cooperative in his AA role, but this thread was for who would make a good 4th horsemen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EI Cubano Report post Posted January 25, 2003 I agree with whoever it was said that Randy Orton was getting over way too well to have to kill his momentum by playing the part of HHH's lackey in a new incarnation of a group that should have been gracefully put to rest long ago. If you have to play the Horseman game though, HHH would have to be the Flair by default. Batista makes a great Sid/Whindam style big man plus I really like the guy so I'm happy he is involved. Now traditionally, the Horsemen would need a great, technicaly sound tag team to complete the quartet. Lance Storm would make a GREAT Horseman but Regal would have to come with him and I just don't see him fitting the mold even though he is tight with Flair and HHH behind the scenes, so I guess that cancels both of them out. It's a shame that WWE didn't take advantage of FINALLY debuting Nick Dinsmore and Rob Conway and giving them the rub of the group in a way that Team Angle got, because they are a classic old school team with the right looks who would have fit in perfectly. Same goes for Mike Sanders, I always thought he would have made a great Horseman too. Orton is a good pick I guess, but historically when you look at factions no one ever really breaks out from the bottom rungs because when you got 5 people hitting the ring at all times, the only ones who really handle the mic are the manager and the in ring leader, so I can't see this being overly good for Orton's career. I could definately see the fourth spot going to Chris Nowinski as he has all of the traits of an old school horseman, but I also wouldn't be shocked to see them redebut Kanyon in the role either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted January 25, 2003 Yes, Kanyon would be great. He is a great wrestler, and superb on the mic. However, I heard he was going to Smackdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DerangedHermit Report post Posted January 25, 2003 Well, think about this: The fastest way to turn Jeff Hardy heel, which is what it looks like they're doing, is to have him stop dressing "cool" or like a raver or whatever he's supposed to be. If Jeff Hardy cut his hair (or at least kept it black or blonde or whatever the original color was), started wearing slacks and golf shirts, and dropped the whole blacklight entrance thing, that would turn off all his teenage girl fans and make him heel faster than his "acting" ever could. He could even be called "Jeffery Hardy." And have Terri Runnels drop her gimmick of Barely Skeletor to become Alexandra York. She can carry around a laptop... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted January 25, 2003 Well, the group is missing an Arn. I've heard Batista be described as playing "The Enforcer" role, but he's completely wrong for the part. Arn was a not only a strong heel on his own, but a good worker and a good talker. Batista just doesn't work in this regard. I really have no idea who in the WWE right now could play Arn. But then, I don't think anyone in the WWE can play Tully, or Barry, J.J. or Flair, so maybe my standards are too high. I get the impresion that this decision isn't really being booked to please me but more to please HHH, so it's no suprise that I dislike it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
