Guest FeArHaVoC Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 I can't figure out what the hell they are trying to accomplish with Albert with their "Push him against Rey Mysterio only" policy. 1) Rey Forgot to Bow down to Taker when he returned. 2) WWE wants Taker to feud with Albert. 3) Albert Squashes Rey. 4) Matt and Rey = Jobbers
Guest Hitman Jebus Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 He would probably also get more heat if he ya' know- won matches. If they actually gave him a push (like say having defeat and injure Rey Mysterio) then I think the fans would truly start to hate him. SO TRUE...
Guest THE MIGHTY THOR Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Mattitude is catching on with all the fans and this former Dynamic Dude wants to stop it in its tracks, the f**k does he have against Matt Hardy???
Guest FeArHaVoC Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Wasn't Johnny Ace also part of "Sullivan's Team" Who harassed Benoit and wanted to hold him down with the rest of the Radicals?
Guest Black Tiger Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 It make perfect sense to de-push Matt Hardy, he only gets pops that are more quiet than Edge and Lesnar. We can't have some one dimensional tag team wrestler getting over with an very entertaining gimmick now can we?
Guest Polish_Rifle Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 This explains why on his commentaries Matt is always talking about strong characters and storylines instead of clear cut faces vs. heels. He knows that Ace is trying to hold him down!
Guest Just call me Dan Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Yeah, I guess he hasn't been putting on 5 star matches with his last few opponents (virtually none) and he just doens't have what it takes to be a major player.
Guest Black Tiger Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Polish Rifle, your sig shows exactly what Matt needs. he needs Lita. Matt is doing a good job as the over confident jerk and asshole heel. But he keeps getting booked to job to Lesnar or to do non-finishes with Kidman. Moore is getting all the airtime to screw up. Matt needs to bring in Lita as his new M Fer and have her cheat to win him matches.
Guest CanadianChick Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Polish Rifle, your sig shows exactly what Matt needs. he needs Lita. Matt is doing a good job as the over confident jerk and asshole heel. But he keeps getting booked to job to Lesnar or to do non-finishes with Kidman. Moore is getting all the airtime to screw up. Matt needs to bring in Lita as his new M Fer and have her cheat to win him matches. Wasn't she doing that before when the Hardy's were a tag team? But yeah, having Lita as a Mf'er and Matt to treat Lita like he treats Shannon would be very effective because the fans care about Lita....
Guest Black Tiger Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Wasn't she doing that before when the Hardy's were a tag team? Sort of, but she'd really only do it to whoever they were feuding with or if the heel would start the cheating, and she'd even up the odds. I'm thinking that she should just do it for the sake of Matt winning, not to further feuds or get the heel back.
Guest Rob Edwards Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 I'm sure this company loves burning money, either that or they don't actually put any research into where the cheers are coming from, all it would take is a quick bit of canvassing fans to find out who loves/hates Matt but I guess Mr Ace knows better than the fans
Guest Polish_Rifle Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 If Matt is not in any feuds with high-profile faces like Edge, how does Ace expect him to get any massive heat?
Guest Rob Edwards Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Come on now Polish he got overhead suplexed by Steiner at MSG, if that won't get you over nothing will Hey if you can't beat em join em I guess
Guest jester Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Polish Rifle, your sig shows exactly what Matt needs. he needs Lita. Have they renamed Matt's finisher to the "Mattitude Adjustment" yet? She should start a parallel gimmick called "Litattitude" and bring it to the women's division. That way she and Matt can cheat for each constantly.
Mecha Mummy Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 This Week's Matt Facts: "Matt Hardy never uses aces when he plays with cards. Matt Hardy remembers the Dynamic Dudes, unfortunately."
Guest Polish_Rifle Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Additional Matt Fact: Matt needs you to BOO him.
Guest jester Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 "Unlike Johnny Ace, Matt does not engage in marital relations with a wide variety of barnyard animals."
Guest Jobber of the Week Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Bah, like Val Venis and Road Dogg and others, Mattitude could easily be adjusted to a face. It won't be a very deep character, granted, but the catchphrases are funny, you could have a Version One chant, and it's better than the "He's SO xxxxxxxxxxx-treeeeeme OH MYGOD HE JUST TOOK OFF HIS SHIRT" character he had going before
JasonX Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 It just doesn't make sense... I look at Matt Hardy and I see a very good worker, with a very bankable gimmick... and as far as I know, he is a very well liked and respected person in the locker room (credit EWR) so what is the logic in trying to bury him? Because Johnny Ace is a bitter washed-up never-was who like Shane Douglas, who still is made at being forced into the ultra-lame blow-job tag team "The Dynamic Dudes" which killed his credibility in the US and forced him to go into exile in Japan because no one would give him a chance to reinvent himself as something other than a pretty boy who kept getting the shit kicked out of him while the fans were screaming obsenities at him. He most likely sees a younger version of himself in Matt Hardy and has privately decided that if it's the last thing he'll do, that he'll ruin Matt's career so that he'll end up a complete and total failure just like him....
Guest wwF1587 Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Damnit that figures... my favorite gimmick in the WWE right now... and they want to get rid of it... FU ACE
Guest Tony149 Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Wasn't Johnny Ace also part of "Sullivan's Team" Who harassed Benoit and wanted to hold him down with the rest of the Radicals? No, that was Mike Graham. Ace took over booking when Russo got hurt in late 2000. He (Ace) was booking the final months of WCW.
Rob E Dangerously Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Hey Johnny, go back to fucking Mrs. Baba. Moron.
Guest RenegadeX28 Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 OH HELL NO. I have liked the Mattitude thing since it started. Great storyline to get him over as a heel. But, now, he thinks it is a bad idea, just because a few horny teenage girls pop for him? FUCK YOU ACE.
Guest JMA Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 You can still be a "heel" if the fans like you. Just look at Jericho and RVD. Simply put, SOME fans don't care if you're a heel or a face. Some fans just cheer if you entertain them and/or are a good worker. Heck, RVD and Jericho both played to the fans in their first run as "heels." Insulting the audience, in my opinion, is a cheap way to get heel heat. Besides, even the so-called female "heels" get cheered. I say let Matt get cheers and act the same way he always does.
Rob E Dangerously Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 You know what the WWE SHOULD do to shut up those girls? Matt Hardy can become a woman hater with Mattitude. "Shannon, I saw you talking to that girl, don't you know what girls can do to you? Girls are the reason that you can't be as good as me. You sap your lifeforce. You need to ignore those dumb hoes because it does you no good to prove that you could tear out their insides like I do. If you want a girl, get one as an appeitizer, not a main course. Anyways, they're all stupid enough to fall for your charm"
Guest CanadianChick Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 Some angry women fans would be writing hate mail to WWE probably. Me? I would find it entertaining....
Rob E Dangerously Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 MATT FACT: Matt makes his dates pay for dinner MATT FACT: Matt wants a chicken pot pie, go make it woman!
Guest CED Ordonez Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 New Matt Fact: No sells all versions of the Ace Crusher.
Rob E Dangerously Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 MATT FACT: Mens Underwear > Womens Underwear.
Guest buffybeast Posted January 30, 2003 Report Posted January 30, 2003 The sad fact about this report is that WWE is prepping ACE to take over Jim Ross' job.
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