One and Only Smackdown! Thread for January 30, 2K3

[Guest Kid Kablam]

SUICIDE DIVE!!!!!!!!!!

 

torpedo like manuever? Right Cole. Right.

[Guest JMA]

Actually, Cole showed a bit of psychology with the whole Crossface set-up thing. Although Tazz kind of fed it to him.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Is this payback for Hass and Benjamin doing most of the offense in their matches with Benoit and Edge?

 

Now they're getting no offense in.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

Some people would think that Spanky getting Last Rided (Ridden? Rode?) by the Taker in his SD debut would be a bad thing, but hell, he was in a 8 minute segment with Taker and Paul Heyman. A lot of young wrestlers would kill for that and he gets it in his first night. I hope they use him well because there is a lot of upside there. He's got charisma and he's an awesome worker.

First night? He has been on Velocity for the past month.

 

 

And In that 8 minute segment with Taker and Paul Heyman, he was wearing a bell hop uniform, riding a little girl bike, sings and dance, and then gets beaten down like he was nothing. Yeah, I wish I got a chance to do that.

 

 

He has charisma. He is an awesome worker. But do I really want to see him get beat on by the Undertaker, when he can be working with guys who can perform in ROH?

[Guest TonyJaymzReloaded]

man....Rover Rat was kickass...that should have been his gimmick...atleast anykinda gimmick beside Brian "I wear sweaters with sunflowers on them" keindrick

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Yeah what was up with that ghey sweater he was wearing?

 

He looks like a smaller Matt from Tough Enough.

[Guest TonyJaymzReloaded]

If they wanted him to be a fool, whats wrong with the name Spanky? god im sick of these boring names

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Geez someone catch Hass' teeth

[Guest EricMM]

Ok I officially don't get smackdown tonight. It has been replaced by the UMD/UNCS game. Now as a terp, that's fine, but is this a sign of UPN's lack of respect for the show?

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Ok I officially don't get smackdown tonight. It has been replaced by the UMD/UNCS game. Now as a terp, that's fine, but is this a sign of UPN's lack of respect for the show?

During basketball season UPN will sometimes show Rockets games instead of Smackdown here in Houston.

 

So far they haven't done that this season though.

[Guest TheHulkster]

Some people would think that Spanky getting Last Rided (Ridden? Rode?) by the Taker in his SD debut would be a bad thing, but hell, he was in a 8 minute segment with Taker and Paul Heyman. A lot of young wrestlers would kill for that and he gets it in his first night. I hope they use him well because there is a lot of upside there. He's got charisma and he's an awesome worker.

First night? He has been on Velocity for the past month.

 

 

And In that 8 minute segment with Taker and Paul Heyman, he was wearing a bell hop uniform, riding a little girl bike, sings and dance, and then gets beaten down like he was nothing. Yeah, I wish I got a chance to do that.

 

 

He has charisma. He is an awesome worker. But do I really want to see him get beat on by the Undertaker, when he can be working with guys who can perform in ROH?

It's his Smackdown debut, besides, he wrestled under a mask on Velocity and, besides that, nobody even watches Velocity in the first place besides hardcore fans who go out of their way to watch a B show on a Saturday night. Like it or not, it's a lot more effective to have him get manipulated by Paul Heyman and get assaulted by the Undertaker than just throw him in a match for no rhyme or reason against Crash Holly. Sure, it could be the great match, but as good as it could be, a match against Crash Holly, Billy Kidman, or Chuck Palumbo on SD will not even come close to making him a real star in the wrestling business.

[Guest TonyJaymzReloaded]

huh, i live in the anne arundel county and i got smackdown...last week they did bump angel for it...bastards

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

Some people would think that Spanky getting Last Rided (Ridden? Rode?) by the Taker in his SD debut would be a bad thing, but hell, he was in a 8 minute segment with Taker and Paul Heyman. A lot of young wrestlers would kill for that and he gets it in his first night. I hope they use him well because there is a lot of upside there. He's got charisma and he's an awesome worker.

First night? He has been on Velocity for the past month.

 

 

And In that 8 minute segment with Taker and Paul Heyman, he was wearing a bell hop uniform, riding a little girl bike, sings and dance, and then gets beaten down like he was nothing. Yeah, I wish I got a chance to do that.

 

 

He has charisma. He is an awesome worker. But do I really want to see him get beat on by the Undertaker, when he can be working with guys who can perform in ROH?

It's his Smackdown debut, besides, he wrestled under a mask on Velocity and, besides that, nobody even watches Velocity in the first place besides hardcore fans who go out of their way to watch a B show on a Saturday night. Like it or not, it's a lot more effective to have him get manipulated by Paul Heyman and get assaulted by the Undertaker than just throw him in a match for no rhyme or reason against Crash Holly. Sure, it could be the great match, but as good as it could be, a match against Crash Holly, Billy Kidman, or Chuck Palumbo on SD will not even come close to making him a real star in the wrestling business.

How about giving him a debut match, with someone who can put on a good performance?

 

 

Didn't that kinda work for Cena with Angle?

[Guest TheHulkster]

Kurt Angle was at the time a former 2 time World Heavyweight champion and was and continues to be one of the top stars on SD, so Cena Vs Angle did help John Cena quite a lot. It's the same deal with the Undertaker and Kendrick as far as thrusting him in there with a top star. They just did all the wrong things with Cena afterwards by either giving him wins that the fans wouldn't buy and would only serve to hurt the credibility of his opponents (like Chris Jericho) one second, then making him look like a jobber by getting squashed by Albert the next. It's all about the follow up now. Bullshit politics keep stars from being made though, because once a guy starts to look good, others get jealous or bitter and make suggestions to management to further their own agenda instead of working for the good of the company. Vince just needs to tell people to fuck off when he wants to make a star.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

How did getting powerbombed by Undertaker and made to look like a jackass good for him?

[Guest TheHulkster]

A casual fan probably won't change the channel when the Undertaker is on, but odds are that if they see a guy that they don't know against a lower card guy, then they will probably check and see what Ross and Rachel are up to or who is getting voted off of Survivor. It's not really fair to the newer guy, but those are the breaks.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

A casual fan probably won't change the channel when the Undertaker is on, but odds are that if they see a guy that they don't know against a lower card guy, then they will probably check and see what Ross and Rachel are up to or who is getting voted off of Survivor. It's not really fair to the newer guy, but those are the breaks.

Fuck~! I missed most of Friends~!

 

 

 

And what if the casual fan was watching that?

 

"Oh look, the Undertaker beat up some guy!"

 

Are they going to remember who Spanky was, unless they show what happened next week on smackdown in a little video package? I think not.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

At least give 'Taker some credit. Hell, I think the guy has had something to do with almost all the new rookies in some form or another. Maven, Nowinski, Cena, and now Spanky. Plus, he was involved in a feud with the Hardyz....they're not rookies, but they are, imo, way "below him in status". Sure, most of the stuff didn't matter much the week or month after, but the fact is that 'Taker is still working with a bunch of rookies and younger guys even though he's a "top guy".

[Guest creativename]

At least give 'Taker some credit. Hell, I think the guy has had something to do with almost all the new rookies in some form or another. Maven, Nowinski, Cena, and now Spanky. Plus, he was involved in a feud with the Hardyz....they're not rookies, but they are, imo, way "below him in status". Sure, most of the stuff didn't matter much the week or month after, but the fact is that 'Taker is still working with a bunch of rookies and younger guys even though he's a "top guy".

There's no way in hell any of this was beneficial to Spanky's career.

 

Yes, a segment with the Undertaker--even if it does involve a beatdown--can help an unknown like Spanky. However, it is simply impossible for a segment where someone is dressed like a bellhop and riding around on an 8-year old girl's bicycle, singing show tunes, in your first major television appearance to be anything but a terrible and highly detrimental way to start off your professional career.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

I wasn't really arguing whether it was beneficial to Spanky. I was just pointing out how 'Taker has been working with a lot of the younger guys and rookies lately.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

At least give 'Taker some credit. Hell, I think the guy has had something to do with almost all the new rookies in some form or another. Maven, Nowinski, Cena, and now Spanky. Plus, he was involved in a feud with the Hardyz....they're not rookies, but they are, imo, way "below him in status". Sure, most of the stuff didn't matter much the week or month after, but the fact is that 'Taker is still working with a bunch of rookies and younger guys even though he's a "top guy".

Credit? Where does he deserve credit? Everyone always says how he puts over the new guys, but who has he put over?

 

 

Maven - jobbed the hardcore title too and let him eliminate him from the rumble. But what happened? Taker destroyed Maven with a chair, and only loss the hardcore title, due to a run in from the Rock.

 

Chris Nowinski - Taker Promo, Nowinski interupts, Last Ride, See Ya On Heat.

 

Cena - ?

 

Spanky - hmmm.

 

Johnny Ace: Hey, Brian.

Spanky: Yes?

Johnny: You are going to make your Smackdown debut tonight.

Spanky: REALLY? GREAT! WHO AM I FACING?

Johnny: No one.

Spanky: Oh....well, what am I going to be doing?

Johnny: You will be in a segment with Paul Heyman and the Undertaker.

Spanky: GREAT! What am I going to be doing?

Johnny: Wear a bell hop suit, ride around on a 8 year old girls bike, and sing to the Undertaker.

Spanky: Oh...

Johnny: Did I mention you are going to get powerbombed also?

Spanky: No...

Johnny: Well, you are! Good luck Kid!

Spanky: Uhhh, thanks?

 

 

And the feud with the Hardys? Yeesh...

 

First feud with Hardys - Matt and Jeff get some chair shots in. Taker destroys Matt and Jeff for the next three weeks. Taker throws Lita off stage, "injuring" her.

 

Second Feud with Hardy - Undisputed Title vs. Jeff - Taker was feuding with Angle and Rock on Smackdown, so lets put him against one of the top faces on Raw! First week, Taker destroys Jeff. Jeff challenges for a ladder match. Taker gives Jeff little offense, before destroying him in Jeff's *specialty* match.

 

Somewhere down the line on Smackdown - Taker promo, Matt interupts, Last Ride, see ya later.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, he is working with a bunch of younger guys. But where is he putting them over? All I see if his little feuds get a little offense in, and then beaten on and powerbombed. What a backstage leader he is.

[Guest FeArHaVoC]

Spanky Needs Mattitude~!

[Guest Kid Kablam]

Spanky Needs Mattitude~!

Fuck yes!

[Guest notJames]

Spanky needs to keep his mask on.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

Spanky needs to keep his mask on.

Fuck no!

[Guest Goodear]

I thought Spanky's whole deal was that he was a goofy wacko. Seems like tossing on the bellhop suit and singing a telegram would be in character for him.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

I thought Spanky's whole deal was that he was a goofy wacko. Seems like tossing on the bellhop suit and singing a telegram would be in character for him.

That would be, if they were pushing the Spanky character. Right now, he is Brian Kendrick (or whatever his last name is.), so they need to push that.

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

I actually think that the segments involving Spanky The Singing Telegram Bellhop WAS beneficial to his career.

 

How so, you ask? Simply put, it did 2 things.

1. It got Brian Kendrick, known better to all of us as Spanky, exposure on an international level (as SmackDown is also shown in Canada and the UK, as well as other countries, presumably).

2. It was an entertaining segment, mostly due to Brian's charisma.

 

The fact that Mr. Kendrick got the crowd to laugh at something that would have been painful to watch had it been mostly anybody else is all I need to think that it's beneficial.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

2. It was an entertaining segment, mostly due to Brian's charisma.

 

The fact that Mr. Kendrick got the crowd to laugh at something that would have been painful to watch had it been mostly anybody else is all I need to think that it's beneficial.

 

Damn skippy, hippy! It was as entertaining as hell, and as usual when I watch SD, I wasn't thinking "will this benefit his career?", but instead, "that was damn funny".

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

I guess you can say it was entertaining due to Spanky, but what about next week? Is Spanky going to dress like a clown, and give Taker a cake? Then get the cake smashed in his face, and powerbombed again?

 

It may have been entertaining, but it does nothing to help him when people notice him as the guy who got his ass kicked by The Undertaker last week. And thats IF they remember him.