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Guest BifEverchad

Ever since Shawn Michaels returned to the WWE this past summer, he's been more unmotivated and lazy than ever before. Now don't get me wrong, I know he was never really the most electric and energetic personas in the world of wrestling (yes, include your lazy Kilq comments later), but now I find him more and more annoying to watch as of late.

 

During his big return campaign last August, he was obviously different. He was out of the ring for 4 years and "changed his life" and all that jazz. So his promos and his overall delievery were much more laid back and well, not the same as the old HBK.

 

We roll ahead to the next few months, and we see HBK return before the Survivor Series, and goes on to win the big Elimination Chamber match for the World Title. He retains it for a month, before losing it to Triple H at Armageddon. And is now currently building an interesting feud with non other than, Chris Jericho. But through all of that I can't help but notice his lazy and sluggish attitude. Its like when he comes to the ring or does a run-in, all he does is his usual schtick and gives a smirk or a shrug and he's off again. Basically its a "ah well, I done it all before, now I'm just here" kinda attitude. Look at what he did on RAW tonight, he gave a good promo in the ring with Jeff Hardy, and ended it with a superkick, smirk and a shrug and left.

 

Believe me, I am and always have been a Shawn Michaels fan. But when I see him nowadays and his new 'changed' lifestyle, it kinda pisses me off. I like seeing HBK on RAW, but not if he's gonna be out there like a jackass, and serve no real purpose. Sometimes I wish that he just did his return match at Summerslam against HHH and called it a career and ended it all on a highnote. But, unfortunately he has stuck around and is seemingly just going threw the motions. I hope he either perks up the right way, and delievers like he did in the past, or else leave before he absolutely ruins his own legacy.

 

The Holy Bible Kid

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Guest The Mighty Damaramu

I'm getting damn tired of him easily dispatching new stars like that.

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Guest Austin3164life

I think his smug smirk and shrugging shoulders is just his in-born arrogant nature. He's always been like that.

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Guest redneckBEBE
Now don't get me wrong, I know he was never really the most electric and energetic personas in the world of wrestling

 

What the HELL are you talking about? He was one of the most charismatic WWE superstars ever.

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Guest Lord of The Curry

What HBK SHOULD have done was tell Jeff that Jesus is the answer. That woulda made the segement 100x more entertaining then it was.

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Guest BifEverchad
Now don't get me wrong, I know he was never really the most electric and energetic personas in the world of wrestling

 

What the HELL are you talking about? He was one of the most charismatic WWE superstars ever.

Nah, he always seemed unmotivated, and lazy. But was entertaining in the ring.

Now its just annoying.

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Guest godthedog

where the hell did the 'always seemed unmotivated and lazy' thing come from? did you watch his IC match with jeff jarrett? did you watch his no holds barred match with diesel? did you watch his matches with vader? did you watch his match with foley? did you watch his matches with undertaker? did you watch his survivor series 92 match with bret hart? did you watch his last match with steve austin? did you either ladder match? did you watch him carry SID? how did he accomplish these things without busting his ass?

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Guest RugbyDiva

I'll have to agree with Bif on this one. The man is right, where is the old HBK? The "Sexy Boy" has turned into the "School Boy." As much as I love some "Sweet Chin Music," I think Michaels is lacking something. I can't really pinpoint what exactly, but it all starts with the 'spice', that HBK once had, wherever the hell it went one can only guess...

-Lis'

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Guest BifEverchad
where the hell did the 'always seemed unmotivated and lazy' thing come from?  did you watch his IC match with jeff jarrett?  did you watch his no holds barred match with diesel?  did you watch his matches with vader?  did you watch his match with foley?  did you watch his matches with undertaker?  did you watch his survivor series 92 match with bret hart?  did you watch his last match with steve austin?  did you either ladder match?  did you watch him carry SID?  how did he accomplish these things without busting his ass?

Yes, I did see ALL those matches, several times actually since I have them all on video. Like I said before I AM and have been a HBK fan for many many years now. But what I WAS talking about was his interviews, promos and his overall delivery and effectiveness of his "Heartbreak Kid" character in today's WWE.

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Guest snuffbox

Perhaps the whole thing can be traced back 15 years to when Shawn kicked Janetty through that window....

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Guest Lil Naitch
I'll have to agree with Bif on this one. The man is right, where is the old HBK? The "Sexy Boy" has turned into the "School Boy." As much as I love some "Sweet Chin Music," I think Michaels is lacking something. I can't really pinpoint what exactly, but it all starts with the 'spice', that HBK once had, wherever the hell it went one can only guess...

-Lis'

It's his whole "Born Again" attitude.. it's taken that old attitude of his and whipped it.

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Guest Dangerous A

Since HBK turned into a Born Again, his character has lost an edge. All we can hope is that he will put over Jericho when their program is all said and done.

 

 

BTW Bifeverchad, while I think your HHH banner caption is cute and all, associating HHH with the Nazi's is a bit much. I usually don't like to sound all over sensitive and all, but HHH's wrestling crimes have nothing on what Hitler and the Nazi's did. There is no comparison whatsoever. To put that symbol up there to show what you think of HHH undermines what the Nazi's did. Sorry, but HHH's wrestling politics and the Nazi's have NOTHING IN COMMON! When HHH is burning and executing wrestlers he's holding down, then give me a call. Til then, take a history lesson and learn about atrocities before you lump them with your least favorite wrestler.

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Guest BifEverchad

Yeah really, lighten up a bit man. I don't have any hidden message or seriousness to it. Jesus, I'm not the only member who has a HHH/Nazi style sig anyways. Go rag on tetsubeav too if you feel like preachin'.

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Guest Dangerous A

I'm just voicing my displeasure about your pic is all. I'm not saying you have to change it. I'm saying I don't agree with HHH being depicted on the same level as one of the most hideous people who ever lived.

 

Do I think HHH is one of the more despicable people to have ever graced a wrestling lockeroom? Yes.

 

Do I think HHH is on the level of someone who systematically tried to elimanate the Jews? No.

 

I know I'll get flack for not being lighthearted, but it disturbs me and I am simply voicing my opinion.

 

I wonder if I put a pic similar with Austin (a net favorite) depicted as a Nazi skinhead playing politics (while not on the level of HHH, he still has a political track record) if I would get flack from the other board members? I'd probrably be banned! Oh well.

 

I won't do anything of the sort. I'll just go back to being a smark drone.

 

Fuck HHH. Go Angle. Fuck Taker. Go Jericho. Blah fucking Blah.

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Guest TheGame2705

Some people really don't care Dangerous A so it's no sense arguing if someone says something ignorant or offensive. Anyway I think Shawn Michaels isn't doing his old shtick because of being a Christian I think it's more using it as an excuse because he's old and beat up and doesn't wanna try as much.

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Guest Mik at Cornell

It's also not worth getting offended over something on an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD. Take a deep breath and put the keyboard down sparky.

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Guest Dangerous A

I know it's just an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD, but I guess I offend all of you who HHHate and see him on the level of Hitler by opposing your viewpoint. I guess I'm the one who shouldn't be expressing himself when it comes to someone who is expressing their HHHate. Sorry if I offended any HHHaters out there.

 

Again, my sincerest apologies to HHHaters for my offense. Maybe I should be banned or something for my insubordination. I guess I don't HHHate enough.

 

There, I'm over it now.

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Guest notJames

If this is the way HBK elevates new talent, I wish he'd go back to his old Kliq days of holding others down.

 

He deserves to lose his smile again,.. along with several of his teeth.

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Guest The Mighty Damaramu

Dude put pictures of Austin and Benoit in your sig killing people. Who cares? If it was a funny gag like the HHH picture I'd probably laugh at it to. I don't think he's saying "HHH is as bad as Hitler!" he's just making a joke. And just because you think it's funny doesn't make you some drone.

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Guest Dangerous A

I never said if you find it funny, you were a drone. I am wondering if I put a net favorite in the same light, would I get flack for it? I just don't see a lot of individualism expressed here and the HHHate thing is done to death. I've tried some Vince hate, but virtually no one likes to blame big ol' Vinnie Mac. I was just expressing my displeasure of the pic and that's it. Then I have posters all over me because of it. Here's an equation I am seeing.

 

Bif expresses HHHate=ok

DA expresses an his opinion on Bif's expression of HHHate= not ok.

 

I guess what I am seeing is because I am not an active HHHater, my opinion is shit and I should take HHHate expressions lightly, even if it is offensive to me. I feel I am being told not to express myself for the sole purpose that I am opposing a HHHate expression. I've seen people banned for having the confederate flag in their banner or sig, but if that confederate flag was in some way mocking HHH, I guess it would be ok? Maybe I'm missing something here. I'm not trying to be a dick about this (you would know if I was), but I am not seeing things on your playing field.

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Guest TheGame2705

Damamaru is saying it's just a messageboard don't get caught up by it.....and anyone could be Hogan but no one could be Austin. AND THAT'S A SHOOT BRUTHA

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Guest The Mighty Damaramu

What does a debate I had in another thread have to do with this?

No I never said your opinion is shit. I'm saying getting up in arms over a joke is stupid. You acted like he was comparing HHH to Hitler seriously when he was just making a joke. You are taking things way out of context.

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Guest TheGame2705

I'm kidding otherwise I wouldn't have put a Tazz quote in there. Let me ask you this....I had a sign planned of a picture of Eddie Guerrero with a red circle and line over his face and the caption Latino Hate because it was a play on Latino Heat and I don't like Eddie Guerrero. Would they have gone over as just some joke or extremely offensive?

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Guest The Mighty Damaramu

Umm.....probably just gone by. Someone might've said something. But you know most people don't pay attention to sigs anyways.

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Guest redneckBEBE

I think the sig is funny, but Dangerous A has the right to his opinion...hey, at least he isn't being a drone.

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Guest The Mighty Damaramu

Nobody on this board is a drone. That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. It pisses me off everytime someone says it. Just because a bunch of people agree on something doesn't make them a bunch of sheep. Hey a lot of people agree the space shuttle blowing up was a tragedy. There all drones and mindless sheep.

 

*pissed off mode offline*

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Guest Army Eye
Nah, he always seemed unmotivated, and lazy. But was entertaining in the ring.

Now its just annoying.

I agree he's bringing NOTHING to the table right now; he's just coasting.

 

However I can't fathom how you thought that the old HBK was unmotivated and lazy, in any facet of his game.

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