Guest Tim Cooke Report post Posted February 5, 2003 Trips 2000 run WAS BECAUSE OF HIS OPPONENTS. If you don't see that, go get a new eye prescription. People smoking the ratings stash and believing that he had ****+ matches tend to either have zero creditability or haven't seen enough wrestling to actually understand what is good, what is average, and what is bad. Not an opinion, a statement. Tim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted February 5, 2003 With respect, Cooke, what you have said is very much an opinion. Triple H was very, very good once upon a time. He possessed all of the things needed to truly main event in any wrestling promotion. He was good on the stick, he was good with his psychology, and most important he was, as I said, proficient and crisp in the ring. His descent into political mayhem has been aligned with a descent in this in-ring ability. But to descend, you must have first been in a somewhat lofty position. So yes. You have said an opinion, so have. But let's not kid ourselves and try to portray it as anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 5, 2003 I forget which benoit/jericho match is on there now, was it the blackout finish? That one's my favourite. He turned purple. Heh. Yea- that's the one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2003 I must have been the lone person who LIKED the WM2000 finish... OH...You're not the only one. I remember watching the All Day Long show with tons of guys in the Pro Wrestling Club at my school and trying to educate some of the newer fans with the footage of the Old Manias. Thankfully, they noticed that Hogan did the EXACT same thing every year when he was in the main event, but that's beside the point. It had been built up so lovely....how no heel had ever walked out of Mania with the title....and then it happened! The guys were shocked, some were pissed...I was LOVING IT. Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 5, 2003 He's the same Trips wrestling the same match only slower and with lesser opponents. He still bumps the same but slower, his selling is just the same WWE style. Where's the Rocks and Benoits and Austins of the world for Triple H to go up against? How can you lose psychology? It's something you either inject into matches or your opponent does. It's not something that you can pull out of a hat like a rabbit, it's something basic you either know or don't. And it's obvious now Trips didn't know it. He was just lined up against the right guys at the right times and wasn't being slowed. He wasn't ever a better wrestler, he was a faster wrestler working with better opponents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Hamburglar Report post Posted February 5, 2003 I would argue that point to the degree that if one considers playing the right role part of psychology then yes, most definitely Triple H has lost some notion of psychology. Triple H's matches were vastly better in 2000 due to his physical condition and more importantly, his skill in playing the heel role. The Triple H of that time was a superbly nasty heel, a complete prick who could be both dominant and a coward. And it showed in his matches. I still maintain that I haven't the heel role played better in the last five years. Everything Triple H did back then was in order to piss the crowd off. He also sold and bumped more, allowing people to invest in every match holding at least an illusion that he would lose. These days Triple H just doesn't do that. His skits, his promos and his matches are designed for the most part to make him look like a cool heel, the very role his heel run in 2000 should have buried into the dirt. A cool heel is not a heel. And of course Triple H is obviously incapable of playing a strong face. Its all about the role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wwF1587 Report post Posted February 6, 2003 This was one of my favorite ppvs because it had some great matches (except the dudley/xpac-dogg-torrie match) I loved the iron man and i remember marking out like a madman when the UT returned (I was in total mark mode) **** match and the best thing is everyone thought those guys couldn't pull it off but IMO they did... and now looking at the crap goin on now.... excuse me while i go cry... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wwF1587 Report post Posted February 6, 2003 I must have been the lone person who LIKED the WM2000 finish... OH...You're not the only one. I remember watching the All Day Long show with tons of guys in the Pro Wrestling Club at my school and trying to educate some of the newer fans with the footage of the Old Manias. Thankfully, they noticed that Hogan did the EXACT same thing every year when he was in the main event, but that's beside the point. It had been built up so lovely....how no heel had ever walked out of Mania with the title....and then it happened! The guys were shocked, some were pissed...I was LOVING IT. Dames When I first saw the ending I was INCREDIBLY pissed and couldnt understand why a heel won at WM... plus the whole McMahon swerve (again) pissed me off.. now that I look at it again... it was a good move by the WWF(E)... it brought a ton of shock and hardly anyone expected it which was great... it also help lead up to another one of my favorite ppvs WWF Backlash 2000 ahh good times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
