Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted February 9, 2003 I imagine he would have to be the old "Man called" Sting right? I wouldn't have a problem signing him on a PPV/TV schedule deal considering he seems like he would be willing to help the company. A good storyline then be willing to put anyone over is a good deal in my opinion. And I assume he would be relatively cheap. And the biggest plus is that I know I would mark out huge. (Hypocritical maybe but I don't care) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted February 9, 2003 outside of Sting coming in as a manager for Cena to train him to become the next Sting, I really do not see a future for him. Blond Sting was better than Crow Sting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 10, 2003 IMO, if you can't work house shows you shouldn't have a job. Right now, house shows, which make up at least two thirds of their touring business are down. It's partly because they pull back on people, bringing them in for TV, sometimes promising them, and yet don't show up. HBK, HHH, Hogan, Goldberg, and Sting. If they're not going to work the house shows, don't bring them in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Steviekick Report post Posted February 10, 2003 I do agree with everyone being upset that Sting wouldn't work too many dates, thus not deserving a push. But, since he would only be on one WWE "brand", his 10 monthly dates would propably include house shows...think of it. 4 Raw (or Smackdown) 1 PPV That would leave him with an additional 5 dates a month to work. I'm sure they could work out something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted February 10, 2003 Put him on the friggin' house shows the day before his Raw or Smackdown appearance and make him take one full weekend of shows per month. That would make it 4 TV appearances, 1 PPV, 4 house shows the day before a TV appearance (Sunday or Monday), and one extra house show per month on a Friday or Saturday. If he doesn't want to do at least that much, why are they even talking to him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheCynicalHateMongerFromHell Report post Posted February 10, 2003 outside of Sting coming in as a manager for Cena to train him to become the next Sting, I really do not see a future for him. Blond Sting was better than Crow Sting John Cena as the next Sting? Excuse my while I staple my nuts to the wall. Thats the dumbest idea in history. He's perfectly capable of formulating his own character without rehashing past shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted February 10, 2003 yeah and how many rapper or crazy white hip-hop wrestlers were there before Cena? Road Dog K-Kwick (Ron Killings) Too Cool And Sting should not be a wrestler in WWE, if he gets signed I would prefer him as a mentor or manager to so young new talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheCynicalHateMongerFromHell Report post Posted February 10, 2003 Cena has much more talent than all those other guys combined. Thats the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted February 10, 2003 so what are you saying that Cena went from Vanilla Ice to Eminem gimmick? Is he keeping real in the Duece Zero Trey? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheCynicalHateMongerFromHell Report post Posted February 10, 2003 so what are you saying that Cena went from Vanilla Ice to Eminem gimmick? Is he keeping real in the Duece Zero Trey? No, he'll be able to transcend the charachter and not inevitably be typecast like the aforementioned - well Killings got out of it, but he's still nothing more than a mid carder in a second-rate company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted February 10, 2003 I think TCHMFH was trying to say that Cena's character that takes him into a bigger ststus in the company shouldn't be some re-hashed gimmick or play off of another wrestler. I think we all agree that his "Eminem" character won't stick with him for the rest of his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted February 10, 2003 I don't understand the house show problem here. As was mentioned a lot of other guys don't work them, Austin's not going to work many when he comes back. Hey, if Sting doesn't want to and the WWE doesn't mind why not let some other person have his spot and make the money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted February 10, 2003 I don't understand the house show problem here. As was mentioned a lot of other guys don't work them, Austin's not going to work many when he comes back. Hey, if Sting doesn't want to and the WWE doesn't mind why not let some other person have his spot and make the money. It's a SERIOUS problem when you have a ton of "top guys" who are being pushed all over TV but don't do house shows. House show business started tanking a month or two after Wrestlemania when pushed wrestlers like Triple H, The Rock, Undertaker, and Hulk Hogan began working less and less house shows despite being the top guys. Hell... Hogan and Undertaker were the WWE champion for a time and weren't working house shows. Things started to hit rock bottom around the time when Shawn Michaels won the RAW title despite the fact that he wouldn't work ANY house show matches. Considering that RAW has a hard time drawing anyway because only about four people are taken seriously on that roster, this was a serious blow. They got the big idea of putting the belt on Shawn but didn't think of how this would affect business if Shawn wasn't up to the challenge. That is piss poor considering that Vince McMahon once suspended Ricky Steamboat for months because he requested two weeks off for family reasons while he was the Intercontinental Champion in 1987. Things have been getting bad in talent relations for at least a year because of this situation. Guys like Edge, Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam, and Chris Jericho were "pulling the wagon" (working each and every house show) and getting pissed that the ones reaping all the benefit were Rock, Triple H, Undertaker, Hogan, etc. Rock and Hogan were "cherry-picking" their house shows (picking prime markets like Miami, Los Angeles, etc) while Triple H and Undertaker had a weekend or two off per month that everyone else was working. This is the true legacy of the roster split... half as many guys recognized as top guys on TV and Pay Per View but twice as many pushed as main eventers on the house show circuit to, usually, a lot of negative reactions. If you don't think this is a problem, you haven't been looking at house-show lineups lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted February 10, 2003 Will Sting be a top card guy for any length of time though? Steiner is on House Shows but he's just wrestling mid carders. If one top guy goes on a house show and doesn't wrestle another top guy it's not going to draw anything. It'd be cool, and better for business if they made the top guys work the shows, but they're not going too. And Sting by himself isn't going to make attendance rates rise like a phoenix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted February 10, 2003 Just having the pushed guys on the card helps things out. Triple H wrestling on the card against Jeff Hardy for two minutes would beat the hell out of what they're doing right now, which is having someone like Brock or Booker announced as his challenger but pulling a bait-and-switch and putting them against Team Angle or Batista instead. The kind of stuff they're doing now will destroy the house show market in the long term because people won't want to pay the kind of money they will for RAW or SD if no one of importance shows up. $40 for a house show ticket is pretty damn bad to begin with, especially when the entire top tier of the promotion doesn't appear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted February 10, 2003 Will Sting be a top card guy for any length of time though? Steiner is on House Shows but he's just wrestling mid carders. Besides Trips--are there any others on Raw? I guess they'll be having more HHH/Steiner matches on house shows to prep for NWO though. Sting would likely be able to wrestle Austin or Steiner on house shows if he came in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted February 10, 2003 I guess they'll be having more HHH/Steiner matches on house shows to prep for NWO though. Sting would likely be able to wrestle Austin or Steiner on house shows if he came in. Trips isn't doing ANY house show matches before No Way Out due to his leg problems. This spells "we're fucked" for the RAW house show business if they keep the belt on people who don't do house shows for whatever reason (light schedule, injuries, etc.). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted February 10, 2003 Besides Trips--are there any others on Raw? He could wrestle Jericho (who is stuck wrestling midcarder Test). I think if I was booking I'd stick Steiner in a tag match. Maybe he could get in a little better ring shape and not be too exposed. Trips isn't doing ANY house show matches before No Way Out due to his leg problems. This spells "we're fucked" for the RAW house show business if they keep the belt on people who don't do house shows for whatever reason (light schedule, injuries, etc.). Since the roster split Raw has never had a Champ that has been consistent on it's house shows. 1st the Undisputed split house show, if they even did them at all. Then when there became two champs Raw has never had a Champ who was consistent with house shows. They haven't even had a Champ who has been consistent with TV shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Aecas Report post Posted February 10, 2003 I'd would much rather watch Sting wrestling in the WWE than that waste of space Scott Steiner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heel In Peril Report post Posted February 13, 2003 Sting showed he can still move at WWA Retribution. Even if it wasn't a good match, which I blame Luger for as well as the below average writing, Sting still moved the stale Australia crowd and firmly buried my ass in my seat. Now, as far as him signing with the WWE, I wouldn't be entirely for it for a number of reasons. But mostly, it would be kinda sad on some level for all the true Sting marks to see the last remaining remnant of company loyalty finally in one metaphorical statement "sell out" to the enemy. But even with THAT said, I wouldn't feel too bad about Sting joining the WWE because we'd be able to see him again and again: ass firmly placed in seat. I would just hope and pray that they'd use him well and not blow him up for a month or so just to kill him off horribly for the remainder of his stay especially if he were to go to Raw---Which brings me to my main thought: I think it would be FANTASTIC for almost everybody if Sting signed with NWA-TNA. Imagine Sting/Jarrett, Sting/Truth, Sting/Russo, Sting/Raven! He could potentially be explosive to the buyrate for TNA in the long run, and maybe even immediately. He could put over their talent LOVELY, put over the NWA-TNA title like crazy, and for us Sting marks he would have never joined "the enemy" keeping a certain trait of his character intact. THAT, I would love to see! WWE doesn't need Sting and they'd most likely just mistreat his image. On the other hand, Sting could be NWA-TNA's savior and give new promise to the promotion. Either way you look at it, it couldn't possible hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest THE MIGHTY THOR Report post Posted February 13, 2003 The WWE roster is already full of talented people so it doesn't make any sense to bring a religious hypocrite(Since HBK already works for the company) moneyhungry has been to take away the spot of a true talented wresler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChris Report post Posted February 13, 2003 Nay. he'd be part of the problem, not part of the solution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
