Guest Cavi Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 I thought Season Six got maybe too much heat (the "Fire Jane Espenson because of Doublemeat!!!" and the "Joss hates gays!!!" arguments being the most ridiculous stuff). Yeah, I had beef with a few things here and there, but I really quite enjoyed it overall. The season felt different from the others, like bps said, and that's a big factor to me. For better or for worse, I want every season to have its own feel, and thus far, they have come through on that front for the most part.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 Again, I think the season 6 hate stems from it coming after season 5. There wasn't really a concrete villain - the trio weren't very threatening, and willow turned heel for 2 eps. Meanwhile, Season 5 had Glory...nuff said. Season 6 was a transition season, mainly for character development and setting up/laying the ground work for Season 7.
Guest Edwin MacPhisto Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 My one bad ep from season 3 is "Beauty and the Beast," aka the Abusive Boyfriend Of Doom ep. It has Angel's return and some nice Oz bits, but overall? So bad. "Anne" and "Amends" are actually two of my favorite eps from season 3, Chris. And "I Was Made To Love You" may be the worst Buffy episode I've ever seen. Worthless except for the introduction of Warren and the shocker ending.
Guest LaParkaMarka Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 Didn't anyone else hate "Gingerbread" or whatever it was called, from season 3? That's the ep where Amy goes all ratty. Horrible episode. Other than that, I liked Season 3.
LaParkaYourCar Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 Gingerbread made me a little uneasy when I watched it, but I didn't hate it
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 I mentioned this before but "I was made for you" was all about unconditional love. Sure, it was a Robots obsessive unconditional love for its maker, but it was unconditional love nonetheless. And what is more unconditional than a mothers love? Also, Buffy was still getting over Riley, who gave Buffy a condition in their relationship. In that eps. Buffy realized that she didn't need a boyfriend at that moment in her life. The part with her on the swing was a very touching, poignant scene...at least to me. And it set the stage for Buffy-bot, which furthered the Spike/Buffy relationship. And it set up Warren killing the chick...which set up Warren killing Willows Chick (Shit! Can't think of her name right now)...Which set up Willow turning heel...
Guest Edwin MacPhisto Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 I know what it was about, RRR. I just think it was clumsily executed. It's the one episode of Buffy I've watched, along with season 6's "All The Way" in which I don't think I've smiled or gone "Oh, cool" one time, except for the very end. Like "Shadow" and "Listening to Fear," it was largely a functional episode setting up bigger things down the way. Which is fine, but too bad.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 Oh COME ON! Warren: I have something to tell you about (the robot) Buffy: Oh, I know. Warren: No you don't. Buffy: Yes I do. Warren: You cannot possibly know this about her... *Silence* Warren:.....She's a robot. And the robots interaction with Spike was really good too.
Guest Mole Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 I with Edwin, season 3 has been my favorite season. Just the whole Faith, Mayor, Buffy/Angel, just everything I love. Season 2 had the better finale, and it was very bitter sweet.
Guest Edwin MacPhisto Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 See, that's exactly what I didn't like about that ep. The gags with Warren and the robot were way telegraphed. Seemed to lack the subtlety or out-of-nowhere wit of usual Buffy stuff. However, the eventual incarnations of the Buffybot stemming from this ep? Sheer brilliance.
cawthon777 Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 I dunno, The Body didn't really do much for me. It was decently sad the first time, but it doesn't have any staying power after that. I guess I'm just a heartless bastard. It's not that it's a sad episode and we should all love it because of that, it's just a fantastic piece of TV for the way it's written and shot. The scene where Buffy randomly pukes on the carpet after calling the ambulance. Going outside and hearing the windchimes and people having a good time and enjoying their lives while yours has just crashed and burned. You're trapped in your own personal hell that you wish was just a dream but you can't wake up. Anya's whole rant on death and how she doesn't understand it. That was perhaps her most vulnerable scene ever. Willow began the scene wanting to knock Anya out and at the end she just felt sorry for her. Buffy having to tell Dawn that her mom died, while all her classmates watch on. I'm trying to find a good copy on Kazaa but all the versions I've come across are crap.
Guest Cavi Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 The scene when Anya breaks down is by far one of my all time favorites. It's just like "Whoa..." Everything about the episode from the writing and direction (Joss going with no score at all was an excellent move) to the acting was incredible, I thought.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 I cry like a baby every time I watch Buffy yell at Giles that their not supposed to move the body...and the realizes what she just said.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 I laughed my ass off at that line. It just sums up the world of Buffy perfectly. Warren seems so convinced that no one could possibly figure out it's a robot, and Buffy seems like she's done this a billion times. And for a second, you think that there may be something more to this robot... but there isn't... shes a robot.
Guest areacode212 Posted March 3, 2003 Report Posted March 3, 2003 I've been playing with the new calendar on the board, and I added this to the June 10th entry.
Guest Lil Naitch Posted March 3, 2003 Report Posted March 3, 2003 The scene with Anya in "The Body" made my eyes tear up, it was so beautifuly done. Then Xander puts his hand in the wall, expressing all of our frustrations.
cawthon777 Posted March 3, 2003 Report Posted March 3, 2003 I already pre-ordered Season 4 from Amazon. It was only $35 with free shipping...but I won't get it for a week after it's release date.
Guest areacode212 Posted April 23, 2003 Report Posted April 23, 2003 Here's something I came across at The Digital Bits re: widescreen: Next, we've been getting a lot of complains from fans about Buffy the Vampire Slayer: The Complete Fourth Season being in full frame aspect ratio, and not anamorphic widescreen. We contacted Fox, and now we've got official word from series creator Joss Whedon on the issue. Here's what he has to say: A PERSONAL MESSAGE FROM JOSS WHEDON Gentle Viewer: No doubt you are looking over this scrumptious BUFFY package and exclaiming "No @#$%ing letterboxing? Whutzat? GYPPED!" Possibly you are breaking things. Please calm down. The fabulous episodes of BUFFY (and that one crappy one, sorry about that, seemed really cool when we wrote it...) were not shot in a widescreen format. They were shot in the TV 4 by 3 ratio. Now I'm a letterbox fanatic, but not just because I crave th' wide. I want to see the whole screen, as framed by the director. The BUFFY's I (and others) shot were framed for traditional TVs. Adding space to the sides simply for the sake of trying to look more cinematic would betray the very exact mise-en-scene I was trying to create. I am a purist, and this is the purest way to watch BUFFY. I have resisted the effort to letterbox BUFFY from the start and always will, because that is not the show we shot. This is. So enjoy! Stop breaking things. You're getting the best presentation of -- let's face it -- the best Television Drama since MATCHGAME '79. Bye for now! Sincerely, Joss Whedon
Guest Cavi Posted April 23, 2003 Report Posted April 23, 2003 Ah, good to see Joss clear up the whole widescreen ordeal. I know it had been debated many a time over the years on whether or not the show actually was filmed in that format. I have always been strongly in favor of keeping the DVDs in the original form that they aired in. And on a related Season Four note, "Hush" was on FX this morning. I will never tire of that ep. OMWF on now. Another awesome one.
Guest Youth N Asia Posted April 23, 2003 Report Posted April 23, 2003 HUSH! HUSH! HUSH! HUSH! Sorry...I love season 4. I think after season 5 comes out I'm slowly going to rewatch the series.
Guest Lil Naitch Posted April 24, 2003 Report Posted April 24, 2003 Wow, no Riley on the box, or on any of the DVDs? Shocking, considering how much they shoved him down our throats in season 4. Especially since he got an opening credit spot really quickly and Joyce never was in the opening credits even though she was a big mainstay for the first 5 seasons. Eh, she was more or less nonexistant in season 4. Oh..and why does Oz get his own DVD label, despite being in only like 6 or 7 episodes, while Anya gets nothing? Edit: Oh, because Seth Green sat down for 40 minutes and did a commentary. That's why he gets his own disc art. Why does Oz gets a disk? Let me ask this: Why the hell did Spike get a disk on the Season 3 set, when he was only in one ep?
Guest Youth N Asia Posted April 24, 2003 Report Posted April 24, 2003 Why does Oz gets a disk? Let me ask this: Why the hell did Spike get a disk on the Season 3 set, when he was only in one ep? Oz should get on a disk. Every season (except 1) you get Buffy, Willow, and Xander..., and then 3 others. What's wrong with having more people on the disks? And Spike (who was in Lovers Walk) got on...cause he's Spike.
JasonX Posted April 24, 2003 Report Posted April 24, 2003 Good call EQ. SPOILERS...(I think) Wasn't Hush the episode where Joyce dies? And I thought she died in season 5, so why is Joss talking about it in season 4? Or am I just way off? I've only seen a few episodes of season 4&5 on FX, but I don't know the overall story. So I don't know shit about those seasons. No, Hush was the all-silent episode with the Gentlemen as the villains. The Body was the episode where Joyce dies.
Guest Youth N Asia Posted April 24, 2003 Report Posted April 24, 2003 "I Was Made To Love You" is the episode that Joyce dies. "The Body" was the next episode and that's the one where everybody deals with it. Why does everyone forget that?
Guest EQ Posted April 24, 2003 Report Posted April 24, 2003 "I Was Made To Love You" is the episode that Joyce dies. "The Body" was the next episode and that's the one where everybody deals with it. Why does everyone forget that? Probably because "The Body" is the one that gets all the praise, and seeing as how it revolved around the death of Joyce, people just associate the two.
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