John Cena's verbal attacks on Brock

[Guest NoCalMike]

Ok I can see Cena interfering at WM to cost Brock the title, however is the WWE really gonna give John Cena equality in the ring for a match with Brock. Or is Cena gonna come off as just a punk once he finally faces Brock. Or, maybe Cena comes back in a week or so and the business with Brock is all wrapped up before WM.

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

I think Cena's going to be a huge player in the future, but Lesnar should REALLY be devoted 100% to the Angle program, since it's, you know, the main event at Wrestlemania.

[Guest Choken One]

It's kind of hard to say...I am getting an Jericho/Goldberg vibe with this thing here...Cena cuts great promos on Brock, but Brock never does anything.

 

If Brock does go over at Mania...I really can't buy Cena, at this point as his FIRST challenger...I am expecting this to wrap up a couple weeks before Mania...I really don't think they have an fued in mind with these two yet...

[Guest NoCalMike]

Well see another problem is. With Brock being able to destroy the Angle Stable(Team Angle) all at once on a daily basis. How is any ONE wrestler gonna seem like a threat to him in the near future AT ALL.Especially John Cena who hasn't really done ANYTHING of importance.

[Guest edotherocket]

Because Cena is charismatic and Lesnar is so devoid of any sort of human emotion the fans will eventually turn on him if he continues this stupid silent unbeatable gorilla thing.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

But.... Brock is the People's Champion!! The fans will follow him to the ends of the earth!! You're WRONG!

 

[Guest Creepy Crawl]

I personnaly like Cena . I think he could be a serious contender for the title if they just give him a credible finisher and somehow someway tone down the gimmick . I dont mean drop it completely just kinda make it seem less off the wall , make him be a thug thats fine but get rid of some of the goofy ass shit and make him seem more like a real threat . Is Cena really hurt or is it just part of this angle ?

[Guest iamsherm]

I don't see Cena costing Brock the title at Wrestlemania. I think he was inserted into the mix just to stack the odds against Lesnar. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cena try to interfere at Mania only to have his plan foiled and be F5ed in the process - leading to a Lesnar victory.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

That would make Brock look even more superhuman, thus that will likely happen.

[Guest Basswitch]

I hope a Cena vs. Lesnar fued happens.

 

I mean Cena is pretty well built, although he is not huge like lesnar, but still, he looks pretty intimidating.

 

I think a Cena vs. Brock fued would be pretty entertaining actually.

[Guest creativename]

I'd like to see some sort of Cena-Brock thing, but not until after Mania. Inserting him into this program would make it even more of a joke. It would just be a distraction; the Matt Hardy-Brock thing earlier was fine, because it wasn't a Mania storyline. It doesn't work here, so just put Cena on hold until after Angle-Lesnar.

 

This would make sense too, seeing Brock "injured" Cena. Just have him stay out of action for a month, then come back and start trashing Brock on the mic again.

[Guest Space_Cowboy]

Cena will probably be just another play-thing for Brock to destroy, inbetween mauling Team Angle, Kurt, Heyman, Show, Hardy and A-Train, because god knows he hasn't crushed enough people yet.

[Guest The Hamburglar]

Cena will probably be just another play-thing for Brock to destroy, inbetween mauling Team Angle, Kurt, Heyman, Show, Hardy and A-Train, because god knows he hasn't crushed enough people yet.

Wait, when did the crushing of Show, Heyman and A-Train become a bad thing? I consider having your first loss be to Show a pretty fucking bad thing already, so cry me a river if crushings occur. The only person in that list who shouldn't be crushed is Angle and possibly Shelton(I think they've missed a trick on playing up Brock and Shelton's past history). Hell, Brock sold too much for Matt back when he was a heel. Crushings are in order. I reckon a Brock-Cena placeholder feud could be nifty. Hmmm...the setting up of a future Brock-Cena feud seems to be another demented clue to a possible Angle retention at Mania, which would be a waste of everyone's time quite honestly. Seems that opinion in WWE headquarters is constantly divided as to how they want to handle Angle and Lesnar. Can't decide whether they want them to look good or not.

[Guest Anglesault]

is the WWE really gonna give John Cena equality in the ring for a match with Brock. Or is Cena gonna come off as just a punk once he finally faces Brock.

Nah, That's Angle's gimmick.

[Guest AndrewTS]

I personnaly like Cena . I think he could be a serious contender for the title if they just give him a credible finisher and somehow someway tone down the gimmick.

 

I don't really care for Cena, but he's not bad. Does he even HAVE a finisher in WWE? I don't recall him winning with any one move on a consistant basis. It's usually stuff like roll ups or cheap shots from outside.

 

I haven't seen spoilers yet, but it seemed to me like they were telling us Cena will be out with an injury and he was making threats of revenge to Brock--but I don't think they'd follow through anyway.

[Guest Anglesault]

Cena will probably be just another play-thing for Brock to destroy, inbetween mauling Team Angle, Kurt, Heyman, Show, Hardy and A-Train, because god knows he hasn't crushed enough people yet.

Wait, when did the crushing of Show, Heyman and A-Train become a bad thing? .

Not really sure. I think he's trying to say that brock has foiled every single thing Angle and Heyman have tried.

 

The only person in that list who shouldn't be crushed is Angle and possibly Shelton

 

Too late.

 

I reckon a Brock-Cena placeholder feud could be nifty

 

Ew. No. They left me with a terrible first impression, so it really is one of my least favorite pairings.

 

Seems that opinion in WWE headquarters is constantly divided as to how they want to handle Angle and Lesnar. Can't decide whether they want them to look good or not.

 

They've just taught the monkies how to actually write the shows. It will be a couple of months before they can do it well. BABY STEPS, DAMNIT!

[Guest The Hamburglar]

Cena will probably be just another play-thing for Brock to destroy, inbetween mauling Team Angle, Kurt, Heyman, Show, Hardy and A-Train, because god knows he hasn't crushed enough people yet.

Wait, when did the crushing of Show, Heyman and A-Train become a bad thing? .

Not really sure. I think he's trying to say that brock has foiled every single thing Angle and Heyman have tried.

 

The only person in that list who shouldn't be crushed is Angle and possibly Shelton

 

Too late.

 

I reckon a Brock-Cena placeholder feud could be nifty

 

Ew. No. They left me with a terrible first impression, so it really is one of my least favorite pairings.

 

Seems that opinion in WWE headquarters is constantly divided as to how they want to handle Angle and Lesnar. Can't decide whether they want them to look good or not.

 

They've just taught the monkies how to actually write the shows. It will be a couple of months before they can do it well. BABY STEPS, DAMNIT!

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I hope Brock crushes Heyman into a pulp on Smackdown next week, just so I don't have to see or hear Heyman on TV anymore. Not only can I not stand Heyman's on-air character squawkings, he's made it clear he can't book anything worth a damn. He turns Brock into superman AFTER being beaten by the Big Show? What a tosser. Anyways, I know you hate to hear this, but cage matches do have a history of being the sites of heel beatdowns to the Almighty face. I can only hope Heyman is destroyed first. Despite the dodgy build-up I still figure the Wrestlemania Brock-Angle match will be good, and I can do without Heyman being a wanker at ringside.

[Guest NoCalMike]

Here is one problem though. Cena will rap his way into the fans "hearts" if you will, but what will Brock do back as far as promos to get heat. Is he just gonna "look like a monster" while walking in the backstage area? I mean heel or not, Cena's raps are quite funny so with anything that is legit comical, eventually the fans start enjoying them. It happened with, Austin, Rock, DX, etc....even though they were heels at the start it didn't take long for the fans to start cheering them because they were superior to their opponents in the promo areas. I don't see what Brock Lesnar can bring to the table in the area of promos that will get the crowd pumped.

[Guest The Hamburglar]

Here is one problem though. Cena will rap his way into the fans "hearts" if you will, but what will Brock do back as far as promos to get heat. Is he just gonna "look like a monster" while walking in the backstage area? I mean heel or not, Cena's raps are quite funny so with anything that is legit comical, eventually the fans start enjoying them. It happened with, Austin, Rock, DX, etc....even though they were heels at the start it didn't take long for the fans to start cheering them because they were superior to their opponents in the promo areas. I don't see what Brock Lesnar can bring to the table in the area of promos that will get the crowd pumped.

I think Brock's offense is powerful enough to keep him on an even keel with good mic workers, just so long as he keeps mxing it up a bit. Undertaker was never a great mic worker, and he's always stayed over against everyone. He had the gimmick, Brock has the power, Benoit has the intensity...there are ways and means to combat a great mic worker.

[Guest AndrewTS]

Undertaker was never a great mic worker, and he's always stayed over against everyone.

 

Undertaker had a solid gimmick, and an experienced manager who spoke for him through most of his career.

 

Brock has a vanilla "monster face" gimmick, and he ditched his manager (or the other way around--whatever you wanna call it) very early into his WWE career.

 

However, I have no fucking clue why people cheer Undertaker now, so I could be wrong and Brock will stay over forever and ever and ever.

[Guest NoCalMike]

It almost seems like UT gets the cheers simply because of his status, rather than what he is currently doing. Everyone knows he has been here forever so it is just a pop for longevity. I dunno I could be wrong though.

 

As far as Brock, well he has power moves, but I mean going toe to toe with Cena on the mic, may make it too late for a suplex to turn the crowd back to his side. The one thing that Cena should keep doing though is making sure is raps are ALWAYS different, rather than having a catchphrase that the fans can catch onto and rap/sing along too. Which up to the point, he has done really well. Once B-2 was taken out of the equation the fans could no longer say the "boooyah" along with him.

[Guest Brian]

As for Undertaker, it's somewhat of a respect thing for a guy who's been there a while, plus the entrance and music. Plus, he does get booked pretty badass.

 

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If they were doing things right at this point, Team Angle would lock themselves in the cage with Brock and pound him with chairs and the titles, leaving him totally bloody, and keeping the babyfaces from entering (Rey, Benoit, Kidman, Guerreros) maybe with the help of the Mf'ers, Show, and Albert on the outside to brawl away. If they had actually put Angle over at the PPV (with a little Heyman help) and let him beatdown Brock the SmackDown before, this would actually work.

[Guest TheCynicalHateMongerFromHell]

Give Cena the push immidiatly. The guy is the next Rock, and after watching the last RAW, they need someone like him. This guy has unreal amounts of charisma, and a tolerable workrate. By working with other good wrestlers, continuing his chracter, he'll be huge. And yes, he'll be in the upper-main event slot by this time next year.

 

Word Life!!

[Guest Trivia247]

It's kind of hard to say...I am getting an Jericho/Goldberg vibe with this thing here...Cena cuts great promos on Brock, but Brock never does anything.

 

If Brock does go over at Mania...I really can't buy Cena, at this point as his FIRST challenger...I am expecting this to wrap up a couple weeks before Mania...I really don't think they have an fued in mind with these two yet...

so is Cena gonna come out with a Miniture version of Brock lesnar and beat him in the ring for a couple weeks until Brock Spears him down, then he gets his personal Security Raphus and his Unnamed Personal Ninja?

[Guest Choken One]

It's kind of hard to say...I am getting an Jericho/Goldberg vibe with this thing here...Cena cuts great promos on Brock, but Brock never does anything.

 

If Brock does go over at Mania...I really can't buy Cena, at this point as his FIRST challenger...I am expecting this to wrap up a couple weeks before Mania...I really don't think they have an fued in mind with these two yet...

so is Cena gonna come out with a Miniture version of Brock lesnar and beat him in the ring for a couple weeks until Brock Spears him down, then he gets his personal Security Raphus and his Unnamed Personal Ninja?

I'd be all for that angle dude...They already have Mini-Brock in Crash Holly .

 

No, Of course I am meaning how Brock is this unbeatable monster face and Cena is the mid card cocky heel.

 

I am kind of getting the feeling Cena will just taunt Lesnar for about a couple of months but never get his hands on him...

 

I don't want that...

 

However, for the Person that said Cena is the Next rock? Eh...I am not sure about that JUST yet...He obviously has Charisma and has an great look...

 

I am some what happy about the future of WWE wrestlers, They seem to be a better package..Cena, Brock, Orton, SOH, Kendrick and Knoble...I expect in 10 years they will be Rock, Austin, Jericho, Taker, Eddy and Benoit of today.

[Guest The Hamburglar]

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If they were doing things right at this point, Team Angle would lock themselves in the cage with Brock and pound him with chairs and the titles, leaving him totally bloody, and keeping the babyfaces from entering (Rey, Benoit, Kidman, Guerreros) maybe with the help of the Mf'ers, Show, and Albert on the outside to brawl away. If they had actually put Angle over at the PPV (with a little Heyman help) and let him beatdown Brock the SmackDown before, this would actually work.

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But only after Hetman has been F-5ed and annhilated, yes? That accomplishes one of Lesnar's goals and keeps Heyman out of the Mania match. They seem to be approaching this feud less as an even contest, and more of a videogame-style set of levels. Brock has to take out Show, Team Angle, Heyman and all the other goons to get to the final boss - Angle himself. I just don't want Heyman to be anywhere near ringside at Wrestlemania. And yeah, the Cage stipulation reminds me of all those times Rock's being brutally beaten down in cages, so I woudn't be surprised to finally see a beatdown of Brock occur.

[Guest Brian]

If I were booking things, I would save the Heyman getting hit until the last SmackDown prior where Team Angle would have gotten overwhelmed before Angle saved their asses, delivered a final beatdown, and had Brock stretchered out for the first time in his six weeks of mercelessly taking him out, setting up the leg work for the show.

[Guest saturnmark4life]

Surely they'll wait until mania to F-5 Heyman? He can go for it and they can clip him from behind and fuck up his leg. Then he'll get it at mania.

[Guest Brian]

Well, if they were booking it good, they would have done it as a short pay-off for Brock in the midst of getting his ass beat. If Heyman hadn't been demoted, it probably would have never happened because lord knows we can't have a top storyline without someone with political power. Right now with what they're doing, I could care less.

[King Cucaracha 0]

I think they've got Cena pretty serious right now. He doesn't need to rhyme EVERYTHING though. He's got the thug type intimidation thing going, the threats and stuff to Brock...which are actually pretty funny. They way it's being done now is good, because Brock doesn't have to respond. But hey, it's not as if Cena's going to beat Brock.

 

Maybe Cena could use the F-5 as the F-U...that'd be cool.

 

Oh and we need more lines like 'That's a nice tattoo of your mother on your back.' Insultingly hilarious.