Undertaker threatens HBK at WM14?

[Guest cheercomp]

I've read time and time again, that the Undertaker had to threaten physical harm on HBK to get him to job to Austin at WM 14. I've always taken it as the gospel since someone mentioned on a shoot interview, until I remember an issue of RAW magazine that Shawn penned an article for. In the article he mentions that soon after the back injury he realized that his career was basically over, Vince Russo also verifies this. So if Shawn wasn't gonna job to Austin, what was his plan? beat him and continue to defend his belt every 5 months? Cmon, even with all the HBK hate on the boards, no one can deny that that plan makes no sense. Austin had to go over, especially if Michaels couldn't wrestle.

[Guest bob_barron]

Dave Meltzer reported it and he's one of the most credible guys out there.

 

It wouldn't suprise me if HBK found some way to puss out of the job and they just ran Austin v. Tyson

[Guest treble charged]

Undertaker mentioned this when he was on Off the Record last year before WrestleMania.

[Guest godthedog]

I've read time and time again, that the Undertaker had to threaten physical harm on HBK to get him to job to Austin at WM 14. I've always taken it as the gospel since someone mentioned on a shoot interview, until I remember an issue of RAW magazine that Shawn penned an article for. In the article he mentions that soon after the back injury he realized that his career was basically over, Vince Russo also verifies this. So if Shawn wasn't gonna job to Austin, what was his plan? beat him and continue to defend his belt every 5 months? Cmon, even with all the HBK hate on the boards, no one can deny that that plan makes no sense. Austin had to go over, especially if Michaels couldn't wrestle.

i read that hbk's plan was to beat austin at wrestlemania, then retire the next night on raw & bequeath the belt to hunter.

[Guest JHawk]

He could have always claimed he "lost his smile" again like he did the year before.

 

But basically, had he not jobbed to Austin, that might have been the death knell for any credibility the WWF and the WWF Title had at that point.

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

Just because Undertaker may have threatened HBK, doesn't mean that the threat influenced his decision to drop the belt.

[Guest Respect The 'Taker]

I'm pretty sure 'Taker kept HBK in as much line as he could while he was on EGOMANIA 1996.

 

Just think, that was HBK while he had THE UNDERTAKER THREATENING HIM...imagine how off the page arrogant the prick would be if 'Taker wasn't around.

 

However, Bret kicking the crap out of HBK saw Shawn chuck a hissy fit and threaten to leap to The Hall and Nash Show, so Taker knocking him out would probably have resulted in the same conclusion.

 

HBK was such a bastard.

 

UYI

[Guest El Psycho Diablo]

I still think it's bullshit.

 

Heh, after all..that Taker has SURE been a real locker room leader.

[Guest Respect The 'Taker]

Well in terms of actually threatening to hit guys he would do a good job. Locker room leader? Fuck no, but if he said he'd knock my teeth out if i kept bitching i'd be sure to do the right thing.

 

He's badass you know.

 

UYI

[Guest KingOfOldSchool]

I'd believe Undertaker (and Meltzer) on this before I'd ever believe Shawn and Russo.

 

Besides which, it's not like Shawn Michaels has never been known to lie.

[Guest bob_barron]

I still think it's bullshit.

 

Heh, after all..that Taker has SURE been a real locker room leader.

Why? It's been confirmed by Dave Meltzer and Taker himself.

 

It makes too since I'm sure Taker was tired of all his bullshit

[Guest Si82]

Well it gives me yet another reason to hate Shawn Michaels.

 

I don't see any other way for them to have dealt with the Wrestlemania XIV situation. They HAD to put Austin over considering his push at the time and the fact that he was the most popular superstar in the WWF at the time. Not only that but the state of Michaels back comes into play as well. You could see the guy was in great pain (Ha!) and he just couldn't have continued to be champion. I mean he couldn't even fight at No Way Out the previous month and instead Savio Vega, of all people!, was wheeled out instead. Not only that but Triple H was not ready to carry the company as the champion at the time. Just my thoughts.

 

As for Undertaker, nice job for standing tp Michaels but someone should have done the same to him at Unforgiven when he refused to job to Brock Lesnar. Talk about double standards.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

As for Undertaker, nice job for standing tp Michaels but someone should have done the same to him at Unforgiven when he refused to job to Brock Lesnar. Talk about double standards.

 

In Taker's defence, he had no problem jobbing to Lesnar. His argument was that if he jobs to Lesnar at Unforgiven, nobody will care about the rematch the next month. I disagree with him, since Lesnar wasn't going to beat him clean, but its not like he refused outright.

[Guest Just call me Dan]

I wish someone would have threatend Taker when he decided to have that great year in 2001. Poor Page.....

[Guest Si82]

I wish someone would have threatend Taker when he decided to have that great year in 2001.  Poor Page.....

He made poor DDP look like a 1980's TV jobber.

 

And don't forget Kanyon, he got a whupping at Summerslam too.

 

And Smackdown not long ago.

 

In fact what was the fucking point in that cage match? DDP & Kanyon got no offence on them.

 

Locker room leader my ass!

[Guest Si82]

As for Undertaker, nice job for standing tp Michaels but someone should have done the same to him at Unforgiven when he refused to job to Brock Lesnar. Talk about double standards.

 

In Taker's defence, he had no problem jobbing to Lesnar. His argument was that if he jobs to Lesnar at Unforgiven, nobody will care about the rematch the next month. I disagree with him, since Lesnar wasn't going to beat him clean, but its not like he refused outright.

If he didn't have a problem with it he should have jobbed.

 

The end of that match was a fucking a disgrace.

 

They could have Lesnar go in looking like a monster and Taker out of revenge and then he could have put him over even more come No Mercy.

 

To hell with Taker, he was made to be a star be everyone he faced, they all put him over, but the guy won't do it for others.

[Betty Houle 0]

blahblahblah undertaker should leave the business he doesn't sell he doesn't put people over blahblahblah