The 90's Thread

[Guest snuffbox]

Heres a thread for 90's music. Bands, songs, shows, moments, artists, opinions, anything. Share here. Grunge, Pumpkins, Lollapalooza, anything ya'll liked from the decade. Id really like to read some thoughts as Im including a lengthy section on the 90s, and especially the music, in a story I am currently writing.

[Guest redbaron51]

The Early 90's:

 

End of hair bands, enter the alternative world, which sees new styles of music from, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Tool, Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead, Green Day. No other era since the 60's seen so much diversity in the music era.

 

1994-1997:

 

Nothing happened. Earlier 90's bands like Smashing Pumpkins and Pearl Jam lost their popularity, and Nirvana was no more, but Metal starts to thrive again with Korn and Metallica. This time period also sees bands such as Beck, Foo Fighters, Silverchair in one of the better mainstream bands of the time frame. Rise of popularity in Canadian bands

 

1998-2000:

 

Music takes the downfall, as other metal bands make the charge for the top as in Staind, Godsmack, Limp Bizkit, Deftones start up, while punk gets back into popularity with Blink-182, Green Day. Mainstream music takes a bigger fall as carbon-copy boybands emerge and wanna-be's Britney Spears take the scene.

[Guest Crazy Dan]

The 90's was a very diverse decade for sure. You had Nirvana basically killing the hair metal. I saw the emergence of hip-hop as a major part of the music industry. We saw the nineties lose two of it's most talented rappers due to a stupid, media made "Eastcoast vs Westcoast" rap war. The nineties also saw the Teen Bubblegum pop make a huge comeback. Instead of one boy band, we got too many to count. Worse, they all sounded the same to me.

 

The nineties also lost one of my favorite singers, Bradley Novell, to a heroin OD. I believe that Sublime would have been huge, but they still put out two of my favorite albums of the decade, "40oz to Freedom" and "Sublime".

 

We had the so called "Next Elvis" Vanilla Ice lose it on MTV, when he couldn't stand all those comedians ripping on him. We saw the emergence of Nu-Metal, but I kinda missed the old metal to be honest.

 

Pearl Jam took on Ticket Master. Lollapolooza was a great idea that was unfortunately ran it's course. Green Day released "Dookie" and many punk bands benefitted. U2 continually called George Bush Elder on their Zoo TV tour.

 

Ah yes, what ever you might think of the music from the nineties, it definately was very diverse. What else reminds you of the nineties?

[Guest snuffbox]

Me llamo Bradley-uh and Im hornier than Ron Jeremy-uh

 

Awesome. Band, songs, dude, everything.

 

Kudos to his mention, his loss was a tragedy to anybody whose ever listened to Sublime.

 

And on this note I must also drop the name of Blind Melon's Shannon Hoon.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

The early 90's had Alice in Chains, the mid 90's had Acid Bath, The late 90's were pretty iffy. Many good death bands came out in the 90s, as well as good material from bands like Tool and Primus throughout the decade.

[Guest swan]

90's return of the mighty Mercyful fate, original line up of Kiss and Black Sabbath. Rise of Gangsta rap and Grunge. Also the dawn of many festival type tours: Horde, Ozzfest, Lolapalozza, and others. We saw the rise of a commercial metallica and the demise of Guns "N" Roses. We wittnessed the deaths of many talented frontmen including Layne Stanley, Shannon Hoon, Kurt Cobain, Mark Sandman, Brad Nowell and others. Punk went pop and somebody thought it was a good thing to combine rap and rock and make a genre.

[Guest Cavi]

The rise of hip hop/rap had a huge impact on the industry. Death Row Records was one of the key players in breaking the genre into the mainstream in the early to mid 90s. The genre continued to make strides on the charts, and by 1997, when Puffy took over the charts, it had sealed its place in mainstream music.

 

Around this same time, bubblegum pop made its monster comeback, as previously mentioned. Propelled by Denniz Pop, Max Martin, and the rest of the Cheiron Studios production team, acts like BSB, NSync, and Britney became some of the biggest successes in music history.

 

1999 saw the trance genre blow up and become the leading sound of dance music the world over, making its way into the mainstream in the process (though this certainly applies to Europe far more than here in the states, of course).

[Guest Spicy McHaggis]

I could give a whole history of DMB. Instead, they formed about 1990 and released Remember Two Things in '92, beginning the rise. Probably broke out in '94. Went mainstream with Everyday but it seems like they're returning to the music... hopefully we'll get another mid-90s period of jams.

[Guest LooseCannon]

Hey and let's not forget about that swing craze back in 1998.

[Guest swan]

I could give a whole history of DMB.

Oh dear god, spare me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest LooseCannon]

I think of the 90's like this. They began with the emergence of bands like Nirvana and Pearl Jam and that whole "overthrow cockrock" ethos was commodified. And they ended with Kid Rock and Fred Durst basically declaring that everyone who has ever picked up an instrument did so to get pussy. La-la-lovely.

[B. Brian Brunzell 0]

I never saw the real talent with Brad Nowell. Layne Staley wrote much more interesting and better songs about being a junkie.

[Guest godthedog]

portishead, letters to cleo, cowboy junkies, stone temple pilots, porno for pyros, g love and special sauce, bjork, liz phair, tori amos, stone roses, mazzy star, veruca salt, nine inch nails, jeff buckley, ween, tool, folk implosion, the breeders, white zombie, sarah mclachlan, our lady peace, butthole surfers, the eels, heather nova, poe, joan osborne, spacehog, freedy johnston, throwing muses, belly, tracy bonham, alanis morissette, rollins band, primus, radiohead, hole, pj harvey, elastica, smashing pumpkins, soundgarden, rage against the machine, marilyn manson, the nixons, the rugburns...

[Guest Banky]

I never saw the real talent with Brad Nowell. Layne Staley wrote much more interesting and better songs about being a junkie.

Lying in my plastic bed

wondering how things were so cool to me

my baby likes to shoot pool

I like lyin' naked in my bed room

tyin' on that dinasour tonight

it makes me feel so cool

now I got that needle and I can't shake

but I can't breathe

I take it away and I want more and more

one day I'm gonna lose the war

 

- Bradley Nowell

 

Written 3 years before his heroin overdose in 96.

[Guest Crazy Dan]

I think Bradley kinda knew he wasn't going to lose his battle with heroine. In the song Garden Grove there are some obvious refrences to his heroine addiction. It's just a shame that his demons got the best of him. I like Ska music and if Sublime was still around, my guess is that you would have more ska bands around.

Edited March 14, 2003 by Crazy Dan

[Guest razazteca]

Electronica became a big buzz word in the mid 90s as groups like Chemical Brothers, Prodigy, Tricky, Snicker Pimps, Elastica, Daft Phunk/Effiel 66 were getting air play on MTV and in movie soundtracks. MTV even had a show that played nothing but techno and ambient late nights called AMP. Most of the good groups were from Europe well UK or French.

[Guest Banky]

I think Bradley kinda knew he wasn't going to lose his battle with heroine. In the song Garden Grove there are some obvious refrences to his heroine addiction. It's just a shame that his demons got the best of him. I like Ska music and if Sublime was still around, my guess is that you would have more ska bands around.

Nowell was on the drug since the early part of the 90's. He tried many times to kick it but he couldn't. Pool Shark was recorded during the Robbin' The Hood sessions. That record was recorded in various crack houses throughout Long Beach. He was deeply into drugs at that time, and naturally spawned Pool Shark - his most deeply intimate and revealing song. By the time the decided to make their self titled album, original called How I Spent My summer, Killing It he was once again heavily into the drug. His lyrics showed how deeply into he was on Garden Grove, Johnny BUTT, Pawn Shop, and What I Got. The drug had control on the guy, not even marriage or his new born son could help turn him around.

 

I don't know if Sublime would have necessarily broken out if Nowell was alive. I think the 'What I Got' track was a feel good song that fit with Nowell's death. If they had been popular, they would have had the same status as Sugar Ray. I hate Sugar Ray, but the masses would lump the two together. My guess if Sublime was around today, they'd have a solid yet unspectacular mainstream following along with their core of die hard fans. Personally I've never heard music that is better than theirs. It was a blend of all the music I was/am into. Popularity means shit, but IMO, they were the greatest of all-time.

[Guest saturnmark4life]

Aside from

the butthole surfers

melvins

primus

tool

RFTC

soundgarden

to name but a few, I didn't like the 90s that much. I hate most grunge 'legends' and that's just the way it is. However, the entire soundtrack to sonic the hedgehog for genesis/MD SHITS on grunge if we're talking 90s music.

[Guest utahprowrestler]

AHHHHH the 90's.....actually the good ol days. I remember loving every minute of it! And "THE BOX" (if any of you had the channel) where you order music videos......koolest era ever!

 

UPW - Utah Pro Wrestler

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

I miss AMP. It was on back when I was young and stupid and didn't know what the fuck any of it was.

 

Sure there's MTV2 Dance now, but... well, I don't have MTV2, dammit!!!!

 

Er, anyway, I'm thankful to the 90s for everything Kylie did during the ten year span, and the explosion of electronica in 1997.

 

Oh, and Jamiriquai.

[Guest swan]

AHHHHH the 90's.....actually the good ol days. I remember loving every minute of it! And "THE BOX" (if any of you had the channel) where you order music videos......koolest era ever!

The good old days? The good old days were Roddy Piper htting Superfly in the head with a coconut while Cindy Lauper shook her twat in the background. Them were the good old days sonny boy.

[Guest Plushy Al Logan]

I hated the whole 90's music culture.

 

Rap/Hip-hop: I wish this abomination to music would just die. I wish people would stop declaring Tupac to be God.

Grunge: Only Pearl Jam was good. Cobain was overrated, the only reason why he gets attention, is because the pussy shot himself.

Rap/Rock: It sucked.

Shit Biscuit: They suck so much, I wouldn't even try to make rap look bad, by associating these guys with it.

 

 

 

News:

 

Clinton Scandal: Was funny when I was 14, became tiring, and repetitive. I wish Clinton would have gotten censured.

School Shootings: These ruined my social status throughout my whole High Scholol Experience.

The Internet: I'm new to it, today. I started a thread on this in the Love, sex, and Dating thread.

 

Movies/TV shows:

 

Horror films: Shitty

Tiny Toons: Great along, with Animaniacs

General Information: Can't remember shit!

 

*I edited this post when someone told me that I offended alot of people. I'll try to not act like a jackass as often as I do.

[Guest redbaron51]

I hated the whole 90's music culture.

 

Rap/Hip-hop: I wish this abomination to music would just die. I was glad when I heard that guy from Run-Dmc died. I wish people would stop declaring Tupac to be God.

Grunge: Only Pearl Jam was good. Cobain was overrated, the only reason why he gets attention, is because the pussy shot himself.

Rap/Rock: It sucked.

Shit Biscuit: They suck so much, I wouldn't even try to make rap look bad, by associating these guys with it.

 

 

 

News:

 

Clinton Scandal: Was funny when I was 14, became tiring, and repetitive. I wish Clinton would have gotten censured.

School Shootings: These ruined my social status throughout my whole High Scholol Experience.

The Internet: I'm new to it, today.

 

Movies/TV shows:

 

Horror films: Shitty

Tiny Toons: Great along, with Animaniacs

General Information: Can't remember shit!

Rap to me sucks, but wishing people dead is not the brightest thing to say.

 

Cobain was over-rated, and yes I believe that him being shot is the only reason why he still is popular, but there was a better band than Pearl Jam...Alice In Chains

 

Rap/Rock: Damn Aerosmith...

 

Limp Bizkit:...They can go to hell

[Guest godthedog]

School Shootings: These ruined my social status throughout my whole High Scholol Experience.

you poor thing, i'm sorry you were rejected by your peers as a result of innocent kids getting shot.

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

I'm a product of the 90's, so they hold a special place in my heart...well, no they don't.

 

The 90's started off REALLY strong. The grunge movement was huge, underground hardcore became better and better, and Pantera was still good. Then Kurt shot himself, Alice In Chains decided to disappear, Soundgarden broke up, Pearl Jam became a bunch of vagina's, and Pantera released Far Beyond Driven.

 

Rap rose as a means of expressing political and social thoughts. The gangsta rap movement showed the world what many urban men went through on a daily basis, and ultimately ended in tragedy, as 2Pac and Biggie were both murdered. Rap then became all about doing cross-over songs with R&B singers, and "smacking dem bitchez" while "drinkin dem 40z."

 

The Nu-Metal movement began to rise in the mid-90's with acts such as Korn and Rage Against The Machine, bands that denied being metal of any kind, but were called such by magazine editors that had no clue whatsoever what metal music really was. Korn and RATM lead directly to the depressed rappers in cookie-cutter "rock" bands we have today. Korn's incessant whining and mostly awful music hit a nerve with the pussified youth of the Politically Correct Era, and Rage Against The Machine's politically charged lyrics and liberal beliefs hit a nerve with the disenchanted youth that felt America wasn't as great as it was made out to be. Several bands tried to copy, but no band made as much impact or were regarded with as much "prestige" as these two bands.

 

The metal scene, the REAL metal scene, was in disarray. Metallica and Megadeth, two of metal's most well-known and (arguably) best bands, became popular with albums that were a tone down from their previous work. Rob Halford left Judas Priest, and Bruce Dickinson left Iron Maiden. Slayer was still "keeping it metal," slowly changing their sound with each album released. The Gothenburg Melodic Death Metal scene was flourishing with bands such as In Flames and Dark Tranquility, and the Scandinavian Black Metal scene was as blasphemous and violent as ever. Whereas, the United States, gangsta rappers were taking their gimmicks too far, black metallers in Sweden and Norway were doing the same. Members of rival bands were murdered for not being "true enough," churches were burned down, and random acts of violence were everywhere. The black metal sound became commercialized by bands like Cradle Of Filth and Dimmu Borgir, death metal became more brutal and more complex, and power metal went from writing songs about wars and theology to writing songs about mythology and JRR Tolkien novels. The United States metal scene flourished in the late 90's/early 2000's with new albums by Slayer, Megadeth, Iced Earth, Shadows Fall, and Cannibal Corpse, and continues to do so to this day.

 

The punk scene practically died once again, as pop/punkers that idolized Blink 182 formed bands and wrote songs that sounded exactly like Blink 182 songs, whiny vocals and all. The Sex Pistols had a small reunion, minus the late Sid Vicious, and The Misfits released new albums. The Ramones continued touring, playing their hits, until the death of Joey Ramone. No punk scene flourished quite like the Boston Hardcore (or BHC) scene did. Bands like Toxic Narcotic, The Unseen, and The Freeze continued to sell-out their club dates, please their hardcore fans, and gain notoriety on the indie circuit.

 

That's 90's music in my eyes, anyways.

[Guest razazteca]

"THE BOX" (if any of you had the channel) where you order music videos......koolest era ever!

I remember when I was visiting family in Florida who were lucky to have that channel which played videos for $1, one day in the summer it was nothing but I Got 5 On It and Wyonna's Big Brown Beaver all day. Damn Primas had some screwed up videos in the 90s.

 

Rap rose as a means of expressing political and social thoughts. The gangsta rap movement showed the world what many urban men went through on a daily basis, and ultimately ended in tragedy, as 2Pac and Biggie were both murdered. Rap then became all about doing cross-over songs with R&B singers, and "smacking dem bitchez" while "drinkin dem 40z.

 

Also in the 90s there was a boom in Southern Style BOOTY Rap, being lead by the 2 Live Crew and Luke from Miami. It was nothing but "that bitch has a big ass" I wonder what she will do for $20. Then it went pop with Quad City DJs "doing the train song" and out of the ATL was Jermaine Dupree producing the So So Def sound with Da Brat as the main star. I still remember the great songs about the booty such as Daisy Dux that were being played on BET. In the last few years of the 90s Bounce became big with No Limit and Cash Money just getting over played while the great groups like UNLV were over looked.

[Guest Midnight Express83]

I hated the whole 90's music culture.

 

Rap/Hip-hop: I wish this abomination to music would just die. I was glad when I heard that guy from Run-Dmc died. I wish people would stop declaring Tupac to be God.

 

Rap/Rock: It sucked.

If you hate rap/hip hop that is one thing. saying you are glad that a man was shot and killed is just wrong and pretty fucked up. How would you like it if someone said that about a singer you like?

 

As for rap/rock, it has always been one and the same. Since Run DMC in 1983 with Rock Box. Rap and rock aren't that far off.

 

From 1990 to 1994 it was Hair metal/pop as main stream to Grunge/R&B to Punk/Rap as the mainstream.

 

From 1994 to 1998 It was punk dying off and pop in a rebirth. Rock in a rebirth, Rap being the only constant.

 

From 1998 to 2000: Mainstream was just about anything. Pop/punk/R&B/Rap/Nu-Metal/rock.

[Guest Spicy McHaggis]

Rap and rock aren't that far off.

I'd say the use of actual musical instruments and a little something called melody, separate the two.

 

Now, if you want to argue that today's rock also has neither, my ears might perk up.

[Guest raptor]

The Gin Blossoms are my favorite band of all time. They take a lot of shit for being from the Ninties, but they are a phenomenally talented rock band.

 

Get over yourselves and check them out.

[Guest Midnight Express83]

Rap and rock aren't that far off.

I'd say the use of actual musical instruments and a little something called melody, separate the two.

 

Now, if you want to argue that today's rock also has neither, my ears might perk up.

Not just today's rock going to machines but rap for the longest has also been made with bands behind them, not just machines.

 

I really in the sense that alot of rock songs for the longest is rhymes for lyrics.