Ratner Leaves Superman For Rush Hour 3

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

What!? Then why the fuck does Superman even come to Earth?? (Sadly, I was going to say U.S. instead of Earth, which points out just how gingocentric (sp?) we can be).

 

After listening to Kevin Smith's DVD, I'm convinced that anything on the Superman subject produced by Jon Peters will be absolute dog shit.

 

Dames

Well, in every version of the story he lands in Smallville, Kansas which I presume is in America. While he didn't come just FOR Amerioca, he came TO America. That's canon.

[The Dames 0]

Well, in every version of the story he lands in Smallville, Kansas which I presume is in America.

I have a feeling that Jon Peters' Superman won't even have him coming to Smallville.

 

Dames

[Guest Lethargic]

What!? Then why the fuck does Superman even come to Earth?? (Sadly, I was going to say U.S. instead of Earth, which points out just how gingocentric (sp?) we can be).

The story is basically a Anakin/Slave mother type thing. The bad guys enslave the people of Krypton so his parents send him off to Earth so he can grow up then return later to free the slaves.

[The Dames 0]

Yep...it'll suck.

 

Dames

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Well, in every version of the story he lands in Smallville, Kansas which I presume is in America.

I have a feeling that Jon Peters' Superman won't even have him coming to Smallville.

 

Dames

The WB wouldn't dare change Smallville, because it would confuse the people (Most of whom are not comic book fans) who watch Smallville

 

But Krypton not blowing up? That's okay.

[Guest SP-1]

That's like saying Bruce Wayne is a well adjusted individual in perfect mental health who does the Bat-thing for fun.

[Guest EQ]

What!?  Then why the fuck does Superman even come to Earth?? (Sadly, I was going to say U.S. instead of Earth, which points out just how gingocentric (sp?) we can be).

The story is basically a Anakin/Slave mother type thing. The bad guys enslave the people of Krypton so his parents send him off to Earth so he can grow up then return later to free the slaves.

WHAT?!

 

This is absolute CRAP!

 

Fuck this script!

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

That's like saying Bruce Wayne is a well adjusted individual in perfect mental health who does the Bat-thing for fun.

Hey, it's their movie. I still have the Donner one.

[Guest SP-1]

::weeps softly, yearning for the fabled World's Finest movie::

[Guest Lethargic]

What!?  Then why the fuck does Superman even come to Earth?? (Sadly, I was going to say U.S. instead of Earth, which points out just how gingocentric (sp?) we can be).

The story is basically a Anakin/Slave mother type thing. The bad guys enslave the people of Krypton so his parents send him off to Earth so he can grow up then return later to free the slaves.

WHAT?!

 

This is absolute CRAP!

 

Fuck this script!

It's funny that even if they change all that other horrible stuff from the first draft (super powerd Luthor, Superman using kung fu, Martha Kent getting attacked by a rapist, the Superman suit being inside a ring like the Flash instead of being made by Martha, Superman dying and coming back to life already in the first movie) the movie is STILL gonna be hated because of this Krypton thing and they can't change the Krypton part because it is the entire basis of the trilogy. Seems like somebody would just be slapping their forehead over there and screaming "what have we gotten ourselves into??"

[Guest EQ]

It's funny that even if they change all that other horrible stuff from the first draft (super powerd Luthor, Superman using kung fu, Martha Kent getting attacked by a rapist, the Superman suit being inside a ring like the Flash instead of being made by Martha, Superman dying and coming back to life already in the first movie) the movie is STILL gonna be hated because of this Krypton thing and they can't change the Krypton part because it is the entire basis of the trilogy. Seems like somebody would just be slapping their forehead over there and screaming "what have we gotten ourselves into??"

...

 

The stuff you mentioned makes me too angry for me to be able to respond.

 

As far as the Krypton thing goes, how could they just throw that out the window?!

 

I mean, sure... Smallville takes its liberties with the Superman history, and it works for the show, but what are these movie guys thinking?!

 

Seriously... how hard could it *possibly* be to write a DECENT (not even GOOD) Superman script?

[Guest EQ]

And another thing... I want to meet the retarded monkey that came up with the idea of basing THREE HUGE BIG BUDGET MOVIES on something that's WRONG.

 

Krypton blows up in the Superman universe. Why on god's green earth would someone who is writing a Superman script base the entire trilogy on something that DOESN'T HAPPEN

 

 

---EDIT---

 

That Krypton thing just makes me so mad... all because they want to milk a half-assed angle that Lois & Clark already did. (freeing Kryptonians). Lois & Clark pulled it off, and Krypton STILL blew up on that show.

 

AND ANOTHER THING!

 

Without Krypton blowing up, there is NO KRYPTONITE! How can you have Superman without Kryptonite?! Kryptonite is fragments of the blown up planet!

 

Watch, they'll have Jor-El be like... "Uh... yeah... let's send him home some rocks from the backyard as a reminder of his true home."

[Guest Some Guy]

Paul. Dini. Bruce. Timm.

 

Kingdom. Come.

 

 

That is all I have to say.

You damn right. Hell fuck live action, they should just keep pumping out straight to DVD animated Batman movies.

[Guest starvenger]

Without Krypton blowing up, there is NO KRYPTONITE! How can you have Superman without Kryptonite?! Kryptonite is fragments of the blown up planet!

The way they're retconning things they'll have a different origin for it. That, frankly, is a minor detail, and I worry more about the crappy major ones.

 

::weeps softly, yearning for the fabled World's Finest movie::

Keep yearning. The "Batman vs Superman" script wasn't all that much better, although they managed to keep the characters truer to their comic book origins.

[Guest SP-1]

Paul.  Dini.  Bruce.  Timm.

 

Kingdom.  Come.

 

 

That is all I have to say.

You damn right. Hell fuck live action, they should just keep pumping out straight to DVD animated Batman movies.

Agreed.

[Guest Lethargic]

I still think the funniest part of that original draft is the part when Superman allows himself to die to save Lois, Jor El senses it on Krypton, stabs himself in the belly to commit suicide, finds Superman in Heaven and convinces him that he can't be dead because the prophecies say so....so Superman decides to return to life. See? Krypton not blowing up isn't even the worst part.

[Guest Lethargic]

A new review of the second draft of the Superman script is up at..

 

http://www.latinoreview.com/scriptreviews/...rman/flyby.html

 

It looks like the only thing changed from the first draft is Luthor's story. In the first draft Luthor was a FBI agent specializing in UFOs, a ripoff of Mulder, he was also a Kryptonian sent to Earth to find Superman and kill him.

 

In the new draft he's no longer from Krypton OR a FBI agent. Instead he's a door to door salesman. A bad one as well. He sees one of the pods from Krypton crash and investigates it. He finds a wounded Kryptonian inside sent to kill Superman and he touches his hand. When he touches him all of the Kryptonian's knowledge is passed into Luthor making him a genius or some crap. So that's how he goes from lousy door to door salesman to head of Lexcorp. He also keeps the pod and uses it to call the bad guys on Krypton to come to Earth and kill Superman.

 

The suit problem is fixed and Martha doesn't get attacked by a rapist anymore, but really those are the only three things changed.

 

Besides the name. The new name is "Superman: Flyby".

[The Dames 0]

What the FUCK is wrong with the people at Warner Brothers!

 

Dames

[Guest Karnage]

Couldn't they just get Richard Donner to do it again?