Guest Grand Slam Report post Posted March 22, 2003 I just wanted to start this thread by saying that, while Danny won, King absolutely raved about Ejiro's match and wanted me to make sure I gave him "mad props" on the boards. So... "Mad Props" to Ejiro for taking Danny to the wire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Edwin MacPhisto Report post Posted March 22, 2003 DAMN THAT MEXICAN! Fun show. Major angles pushing forward and developing pretty simply but quite effectively makes this a really nice post-PPV product. It looks like Frost's redemption and Mag's fall from grace are going to make for some really nice parallel stories, and I for one would love to see some matches between these two with the tables now turned. I also really like that these turns and character motivations are coming from direct results of what happened on the PPV. Really effective follow-up on almost all accounts. And as for Uprising 3.0...this could be really cool if done well. Mega, mega old-school indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Luchadore Magnifico Report post Posted March 22, 2003 Whoo, it feels good to be a bad guy again. Looked like a terrific show, both angle and match wise. Congrats to Danny Williams, who pulled off a big and apparently very close victory, and to Flesher and Mental, who picked up the slack when TNT and I were unable to put out a full match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forewarned 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2003 Good job Wildchild. That's what I get for having half my match be a promo. I hate word limits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Beingz0wningj00 Report post Posted March 22, 2003 Looking over the show. Very eventful. A great opening promo. That was an awesome way to set up the rest of the night. Kris and Kross again succeeded in having me laugh out loud while talking to a MSN customer. A very funny promo and match... my favourite spot was definitely the close call off the shoulder block and the Walk Off attempt... fucking had me dying. Almost got me caught for going on the net though you bastards! Wildchild put over Neilsen in a way that works best for both guys. Great job WC. I hope we get to work again. Johnny Dangerous has a head ache... hee hee hee Mike Van Siclen and my favorite superstar go at it... and Franchise shows why he is the Franchise by beating Siclen in under a minute.... in Siclen's match! Ha! Honorable move though, Mike. At least you have some pride. Danny Williams in a match that has more Japanese move names then I'd like to translate. I loved the finish with the crucifix kneebar... and hope to read the rest of the match as well. Same goes for the Main Event, although I read the promo following... evil dirty Mexicans rule... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AnnieEclectic Report post Posted March 23, 2003 DAMN YOU ELM! DAMN YOUSE! Wow, coming back to see what's up, and easily you guys got your shit together! ELM beingz evil, Danny doing just about as brilliantly as I imagined he would... although could someone answer me one thing... WHO THE LIVING FUCK ARE KRIS KROSS?! They made me snort out "Honey bunches O' Oats" on my table... god dammit... -Annie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Beingz0wningj00 Report post Posted March 23, 2003 Ok... the last bit of the show. Danny vs. Ejiro... Well this was an interesting match. I know it's a legitimate street fighting hold, and my prefered submission. But I didn't like the part in the match here, where you both worked over the arms... yet it was a one time leg submission to do the trick. Kudos to the selling of the move, and I guess it does make a good surprise ending, plus angle where I can say "You took my move!" even though it's not really my move... Blarg. Again, the translations of all those move names was kind of goofy. The Main Event... this was a fun match... although the ending was really rushed. I think the set up was clearly for the angle following, and might I say, it was certainly unexpected. I bet Magnifico will surprise us though, as he can very easily become one of the most dominant heels out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffin Surfer Report post Posted March 24, 2003 Danny vs. Ejiro... Well this was an interesting match. I know it's a legitimate street fighting hold, and my prefered submission. But I didn't like the part in the match here, where you both worked over the arms... yet it was a one time leg submission to do the trick. Kudos to the selling of the move, and I guess it does make a good surprise ending, plus angle where I can say "You took my move!" even though it's not really my move... Blarg. Again, the translations of all those move names was kind of goofy. That was the point. Ejiro was expecting the Juji-gatame, Danny had already tried to lock it on like three times unsuccessfully. Ejiro on the other hand was determined to get the arm submission, he kept on trying and trying. However, unlike Ejiro, Danny was able to adjust his game plan, catching Ejiro off guard. In his veteren wisdom, Danny was able to make the proper adjustment while Ejiro stayed one dimensional, allowing Danny to outsmart his less experienced opponent. Another veteren out smarts rookie matches. The suspense in the match, was if they could lock a hold on, not work the limb over enough to build for it. Ejiro was never able to lock on an arm submission, unless Danny was in the ropes. The Hiza Juji-gatame was the first real hold locked on off the ropes. Making it the logical finish. I really don't feel the need to work the leg over to set it up, it's a bad ass hold, and just locking it on should be death. Same for most submission holds, they must be really pussy ass weak if you have to pound the limb for hours for it to work. I always hated that, fuck late 80s Flair. There was time when the Figure Four use to mean something. My match was similar to UWFi style match where submission's mean something(with the exception of Rings no fed did a better job of handling submission holds), not a old school NWA style match where they are shat upon and used as filler. Juji-gatame is the moves real name, not a translation. Joey Styles is just a dumbass that makes stuff up. How the hell does it look like a crucifx anyway. Sorry about stealing your move, but it was one match only. And it helped to get it more over, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Beingz0wningj00 Report post Posted March 24, 2003 I wasn't ragging on you for stealing it... I just suggested that for an angle. I honestly thought you used it before anyway. I did catch onto the psychology, which is why I pointed out it could have been a surprise ending. Although I guess I think some submissions should have been applied out of sheer torture. And I agree, the move is VERY badass and it certainly doesn't need any weakening of the leg to make you squeal like a pig... but it does help. I guess it's just a change to see submissions feared... I know when I do wrestling with my friends, a submission is the only way to win. Juji-gatame or scissored armbar... I can see the crucifix for the armbar side... because your body is forcefully stretched into a position almost like your hanging from a crucifix... except on the mat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted March 24, 2003 However, unlike Ejiro, Danny was able to adjust his game plan, catching Ejiro off guard. In his veteren wisdom, Danny was able to make the proper adjustment while Ejiro stayed one dimensional, allowing Danny to outsmart his less experienced opponent. Another veteren out smarts rookie matches. Just an aside, Ejiro is not supposed to be a rookie since I really don't find that part of a character to be all that interesting. The character is 27 years old and in fantasy land, has a whole bunch of "experience outside of the SWF" that I used to define him a whole lot in the SJL. Realistically, he's the one who should be using as many dirty veteren tricks as he can to deal with the far more physically gifted Danny Williams. Not that it effects the way you wrote the match (I certainly wrote Danny in a similar fashion that you did... going for a flash submission with badass holds) just your interpretation of it. In other news: Fugue toys with Deja Vu in a playful manner before feeding them to Janus for fun. I actually rather like that interpritation of the characters as well as the constant talking that came out Kriss and Kross during the match. I would have had Janus just murder the two rookies myself, but I'm a sick person who is into that sort of thing. I'd love to see the Fugue/Janus team to stay together for a bit, I'd really want to see what they can do against someone they actually treat like a threat. Wildchild puts himself and NoTJ over pretty well in my opinion, although it would have been nice to see them get some more words to work with as this seemed exceptionally rushed. 4500 words is like ... minimum to get a match underway to a reasonable degree IMO. 3000 words is like... nothing. JD kills JD and the use of the "JD" intials wasn't the best of ideas... even if you only ever used them to apply to Dawg. It really makes it harder to read for us morons that can't think so very well. MVS jobs quickly... poor guy. I wonder if this is heading for an angle or if he just didn't want to take Mak's belt or something. ??? Judge and Tom beat up TNT ... I don't know, with the turn coming it seemed odd for the M7 to be trading holds with ELM for me. And then TNT comes in and gets taken out in short order... I don't know. I would have had TNT carry most of the action in this one and make sure to put him over before the big beatdown. But that's me. What do I know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffin Surfer Report post Posted March 24, 2003 Just an aside, Ejiro is not supposed to be a rookie since I really don't find that part of a character to be all that interesting. The character is 27 years old and in fantasy land, has a whole bunch of "experience outside of the SWF" that I used to define him a whole lot in the SJL. Realistically, he's the one who should be using as many dirty veteren tricks as he can to deal with the far more physically gifted Danny Williams. Not that it effects the way you wrote the match (I certainly wrote Danny in a similar fashion that you did... going for a flash submission with badass holds) just your interpretation of it. I'm sorry dude, but your a rookie in the SWF. Your a 27 year old rookie, much like how I wrote Mental as a 45 year old rookie in the six man tag. Now you've moved past that, as evident by the story of the match which saw you taking a step up out of that role. I'm sorry but I can't write a recent bumpee as an experienced vet, it's all about the role playing. It wouldn't seem logical for a new guy to come in, and go up against a guy who's been writing in the SWF for going on a year now this June I think, and for me to play the less experienced role. In some cases I wouldn't write Danny as the vet, if I was going up against Flesher, even though we debuted in the same match, because he's been the SWF longer than me. Sure it's like how the WWF used to pretend Harley Race was a rookie in the 80s, but it keeps things in order and less complex. Danny's character has a ton of experience in japan but in some cases I still put him in the inferior role like when I jobbed to ELM in the three way a while back. I didn't see this aspect of your character in the stats, but if you want him to be harded vet, I will write him as one next time. If that's what you wish, because after it's your character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites