Fire Pro Wrestling

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

I got this game due to all the "WWE gamez sux d00d fire pro is teh winnar" posts I see on various wrestling and video game boards alike.

 

Appearantly, while Fire Pro does have a totally different combat system that revolves around good timing instead of button combinations, the main bread & butter of the game, "Management of the Ring" was removed by Bam! because of all the Japanese text it involved. Fire Pro 2 is either worse or on average with Fire Pro 1 depending on who you talk to, although IGN says 2 fixes some bugs.

 

Regardless, the only way to get that full Fire Pro experience according to the people online without importing is to get (i.e. burn) yourself a copy of Fire Pro D for Dreamcast. But since it's all in Japanese, you probably won't enjoy MotR very much.

 

These are the conclusions I've been able to reach so far. I don't know if there's any other alternatives or not, but it seems that the choices are to enjoy a bastardized English Fire Pro or play REAL MAN'S FIRE PRO in a langauge you can't understand.

 

Then can someone please tell me why everyone thinks this game is so great?

[Guest areacode212]

There are translation guides available for Management of the Ring out there. After a short period of getting used to it, you can pretty much play & understand it blindly, and you only need to refer to the guide when you get those special events between months.

[Guest Downhome]

The FPW's on the Gameboy Advance are simply fantastic, just f'n great. I prefer Fire Pro D on the Dreamcast however. When you first play it, you may just hate it. I hated it very much when I first played it, I couldn't get ahold on the gameplay. There is a key though, a key to falling in love with the game...

 

...once you learn the timing of the moves, how to win a lock up, and all of that, you will be in heaven. Once you learn how to do all the top rope moves, moves to the outside, moves to just about anywhere you want, you will love it. This game is all about getting past the learning curve, I've been there. I finally overcome that learning curve however, and I proclaim myself as the master of all that is Fire Pro, bwahahahahahahahaha.

 

Sorry, I know this isn't what you asked, but I just wanted to talk about my game!

 

Get the Dreamcast version, there is NO NEED to know the language at all. Once you play through it a couple of times with a guide, where you can find on the internet very easily, you will be able to go through it just as you could if it was in English. Hell, it's taught me a few Japanese words, heh. Not only, in my opinion, is the FPD the best one out there, but you can DOWNLOAD NEW characters and moves onto your VMU's for you to play with. Right now, I have over 400 or so playable characters for my Fire Pro. Wrestling D, featuring just about anyone you could ever think of. If I ever want more, I can either make them, or download them, not to mention the moves that I mentioned above.

 

It's great, perfect, and it's tied for the greatest wrestling game ever in my eyes (tied with Giant Gram 2000).

[Guest Nevermortal]

Fire Pro simply has one of the best engines ever. Yeah, its 2D, yeah, the graphics suck sometimes, but it still rules all.

 

The Spike team recently released King of Colisseum for PS2, which employs a Fire Pro like engine, but it is in full, glorious 3D. So maybe you'll like that. Its all about personal preference.

[Guest jimmy no nose]

Fire Pro is amazing. I love Fire Pro D for Dreamcast and I also had one for SNES that was really good. The GBA ones are the only good hand held wrestling games pretty much ever. I've already ordered King of Collesium, but I don't know when it'll be here. I'm going to spend some time with that. I still take AKI over Fire Pro though.

[Guest Coffey]

The Spike team recently released King of Colisseum for PS2, which employs a Fire Pro like engine, but it is in full, glorious 3D. So maybe you'll like that. Its all about personal preference.

Is that out now?

[Guest Nevermortal]

The Spike team recently released King of Colisseum for PS2, which employs a Fire Pro like engine, but it is in full, glorious 3D. So maybe you'll like that. Its all about personal preference.

Is that out now?

Yes, both Discs.... Green & Red.

[Guest chirs3]

Uhm... got this off another message board, dunno how reliable it is... and I've never played any of the Fire Pro's... but I figured you guys might be interested:

 

From Gamers.com:

 

After taking a 3D detour with King of Colosseum, Spike plans to revive the 2D Fire Pro Wrestling franchise with Fire Pro Wrestling Z on PlayStation 2 in Japan this June, Famitsu reports today. The new game in the series plans to pack in 240 pre-made wrestlers, as many as 400 faces in its wrestler edit mode, and some 1400 wrestling moves, as well as a detailed Victory Road mode for solo players and multi-tap support for tag team action (including the electric death matches previously seen on the Saturn).

Expect further updates as Spike releases new information.

[Guest areacode212]

Regardless, the only way to get that full Fire Pro experience according to the people online without importing is to get (i.e. burn) yourself a copy of Fire Pro D for Dreamcast. But since it's all in Japanese, you probably won't enjoy MotR very much.

By the way, there was no MotR mode in Fire Pro D. It's only available in Final Fire Pro Wrestling for the GBA.

 

At any rate, as far as the GBA Fire Pros go, you can have the best of both worlds via emulation. There have been a lot of Fire Pro threads here, so just do a search for "Fire Pro" in this forum. There are links to the ROMs, as well as my color hacks for the 2 most recent FPs.

[Guest goodhelmet]

gamefaqs has the firepro d translation guide, and after a little bit of fucking around, you should have no problem mastering the menus.

 

as for getting into the gameplay, the key is to have the volume on, and you will hear a click when the wrestlers lock up. pressing your button combo at this click is the key to doing moves and reversals. once you have mastered this little 'trick', the possibilities are endless.

[Guest Dace59]

Nothing more fun than Criticalling HHH with a Gamenguri or a Rolling Elbow.

[Guest benoitrulz4life]

Yes, greatest wrestling game ever. Only games I have played more of in my life are Super Mario Kart and Goldeneye. If you ever get tired of wrestling on it, you can also have a PRIDE match, UFC match, K-1 match, or you can make boxers and have a boxing match. The possibilities are endless with this game. Plus you don't even need to spend all that time making characters when you can download others creations off the Intronet.

[Guest The Metal Maniac]

To answer the original question: I think that people like the games so much because they literally give you total control of anything you'd be able to do in an actual wrestling match, and very closely simulates an actual match.

 

I mean, you can run right out, and go for your finisher right away - but just like if someone did that in an actual match, it gets countered. You can't just hit big moves - you HAVE to hit little moves, then work your way up. But then again, wrestlers even have specific attributes that make them very closely match their real-life counterparts. For example, Stone Cold can hit the Stunner at any given time. Just like the actual Stunner, it can be done on anyone, at any time. This means that hitting the ring in a royal rumble can lead to SUPERMAN STEVE~! hitting Stunners on everything.

 

The exhaustion factor is also very realistic. I mean, how often do matches go 30 minutes, then both guys just run the ropes like nothing? The really fun part is making fat guys blow up by giving them Irish Whips over and over...

 

Oh, and you can't slam fat guys. YOU CAN'T. Have you ever tried to fight Andre? JESUS LORD. It's just like the real Andre. He doesn't actually do anything except laugh at you everytime you try to hit him. Then he just falls on you and wins, every time. But not to make it totally unfair, if you get enough momentum, you can start to actually slam him around and such.

 

Oh, also, back to the characters being like their real-life counterparts: Shootfighters are literally better at wrestling then anyone else: An armbar from a shootfighter is DEATH. But then there's guys like Misawa, who can knock people out cold with the No-Sellbow. Everyone just fits perfectly.

 

And personally, I like the lower-level graphics. Nothing makes me madder then watching HHH's hair sway gently in the breeze during a game of RAW when I'm thinking "Why didn't they just put in MORE MOVES?" Pointless things like hair moving don't entertain me. I want to play a wrestling game to wrestle, not observe how well RVD's hair is combed these days.

 

That, and they allow for EVERYTHING to be squeezed into the game. I swear, name any move that existed before Fire Pro D was released, and it's in there. And even some that weren't invented until afterwards, thanks to the downloadables.

 

So that's why people like the game: It's realistic, it's complete, and it's FUN. Yes, I will admit that it's no fun until you get the grapple system, but once you do...hoooo boy!

[Guest SP-1]

I want to play this. Can I download it? Do I need an emulator?

[Guest The Metal Maniac]

Yes. Yes you do.

 

If you have a DC, you can find a copy of Fire Pro D (For the record, that's the game I was talking about - the SNES games aren't as in-depth) online somewhere, then burn it off.

 

OR

 

You can get a GBA Emulator, then get a Fire Pro A rom, or Fire Pro 2, if you want.

 

OR

 

You can get a SNES Emulator, and get Super Fire Pro Wrestling X Premium.

 

If I remember correctly, nothing outside of the DC game is *too* hard to find, though it may entail some looking.

 

Areacode can probably help more, or you can search through this very board to try and find an older post that tells you just what to do - I know the posts are out there, but I'm not the one who wants to download the game, so I ain't gonna look for ya. Do it yourself, ya lazy bastard.

 

[Guest razazteca]

In the Fire Pro A for GBA there is a mode where you have to work a specific style perfectly to advance to the next level. I like throwing people to the outside then hitting the EL Santo Tope of DOOM~ for style points, but if you try the move too early you just injury yourself by missing the opponet.

[Guest SP-1]

I shall look high and low. I don't have a DC, myself, but I have a friend who does. I'll just hit him with a chair and play it or something.

[Guest The Metal Maniac]

Off topic a little bit here: SP, I knew that title looked familiar, but I just now realize where I've seen it before - You listen to From Autumn to Ashes Now, or did you hear it somewhere else? I dunno, just doesn't strike me as the kind of music that someone like yourself would listen to.

 

And to keep this post from being useless, here:

 

http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...397&hl=fire+pro

 

There you can find the SFPWXP ROM, and possibly the Fire Pro 2 Rom, assuming that it hasn't been taken off that site yet...

[Guest Dace59]

I've re hosted, on a new site (Dunno how long I'll have it, but it's free for now,)

 

http://robbo.oeck.net/Stuff/FireProA2.zip

[Guest ChikoDemono]

Sorry to bump this old thread; I didn't want to get flamed for starting a completely useless topic.

 

My question for the obsessed gamers: Should I purchase a Japanese Playstation 2 just for the wrestling games such as King of Colosseum and Fire Pro Wrestling Z?

 

Before you answer, let me give you a little backstory about my stupidity when it comes to buying video game consoles. This past summer, I have purchased a Japanese Dreamcast off of eBay only because it came with Fire Pro Wrestling D and Toukon Retsuden 4. Before that, I bought a Gameboy Advance (again off of eBay) because it had Fire Pro Wrestling (the first one, US version) and to a lesser notification Wrestlemania X-8 with it. Those combined orders were close to, if it didn't exceed, $200.

 

I am not a gamer, and will probably play nothing but wrestling games on the Japanese Playstation 2 if I bought it. So, for those who own Japanese Playstation 2 wrestling games, would you say they are worth it? Also, I guess it is worth noting (though I'm sure you figured it out already) that I cannot read Japanese.

 

Thanks in advance.

[LooseCannon25 0]

To me there is no better game EVER than FPD for Dreamcast. For those who don't have a Dreamcast, you can buy one for like $30 at GameStop, and you can get the game for like $10 on EBAY NEW.....don't buy this game on the import sites. They'll charge $60-70 for it.

 

Now, about the game, you can tweak just about anything eve including the speed. I play mine at 7 difficulty with 125% speed. Perfect. Some may say the graphics arent that good but if you look at the wrestlers in the game they are very detailed. I dare you to tell me Hulk Hogan or The Rock don't look exactly like their real life counterparts. On top of that the fact that, with the right equipment, you can download wrestlers, ring logos, moves off the internet. Right now I have most of the NWA-TNA, ROH, and other indy rosters. I must have over 450 wrestlers in my game now. To be honest, sometimes when i turn the game on I have a hard time choosing who to pick to wrestle, unbelievable.

[Guest J*ingus]

But then there's guys like Misawa, who can knock people out cold with the No-Sellbow.

Jesus H, how did I miss that gem when this thread was last up top? Funniest thing I've seen since last night, when I saw a theatrical version of Robin Hood in which the merry men were dressed up in jungle camoflauge, which was pretty damn funny.

 

Anyway, maybe I'm really shallow, but I had a hard time getting into the Fire Pro system simply because of the whole 2-D thing. If I feel like playing a 2-D game, I just throw in the old NES Pro Wrestling game and use King Slender to backbreak my way to the title. And yes, I am a Smackdown fan who mashes buttons like there's no tomorrow, but hey, that's what I like. When they do finally come out with a true 3-D Fire Pro engine (hopefully in a true English translation please please pleeeease), then I'm there.

[Guest SP-1]

Off topic a little bit here: SP, I knew that title looked familiar, but I just now realize where I've seen it before - You listen to From Autumn to Ashes Now, or did you hear it somewhere else? I dunno, just doesn't strike me as the kind of music that someone like yourself would listen to.

 

And to keep this post from being useless, here:

 

http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...397&hl=fire+pro

 

There you can find the SFPWXP ROM, and possibly the Fire Pro 2 Rom, assuming that it hasn't been taken off that site yet...

You know, I totally forgot about this thread for some reason.

 

Maniac, yeah that was FATA. One would be surprised at the diversity of music I listen to.

 

And while video games are more or less dead to me right now, I'd still love to see this game in action.

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

Lately I've been cranking up the sound on my GBA emulator and then throwing people onto the apron with the German Throw.

 

That "ugh!' sound is priceless, not to mention the thump when they smack thier head on the way down.

[Guest RenegadeX28]

What kind of equipment do you need to DL all those CAWs, ring logos, etc?

[LooseCannon25 0]

What kind of equipment do you need to DL all those CAWs, ring logos, etc?

You need a NExus Card, which comes with the serial cable....You can get one at www.jandaman.com It's a 4X one meaning you have 4 pages of 200 blocks each.......After you get the card you need to download a software like vmslinker, which you can also download at Jandaman. After you get the equipment, just go to any website which has the stuff to download like www.gswf.org and download the stuff into your hardrive, after that transfer the info to your nexus card, its very simple. When you have the info in your nexus card you just load it into the Memory Card option of the game. While you're doing this the dreamcast must be on with everything hooked up properly. Hope that helps

[Guest Downhome]

What kind of equipment do you need to DL all those CAWs, ring logos, etc?

Or to make it fucking simple, just plug a phone cord into the back of your dreamcast, make sure you have VMU's in your controllers, buy or download and burn the DC web browser, log on using an internet connection (if someone wont let you borror their dial-up info for a second, then look on the line for a free service...if you need help just ask), and then just go to the web sites that have the downloads, and download away straight to your VMUs.

[Guest Askewniverse]

This may be a stupid question, but how the hell do you win a match in FPW? I've been playing FPW 2 for GBA (thanks Dace), but whenever I go for a pin or submission, nothing happens. The referee is nowhere to be found, which makes it impossible to finish a match.

[Guest The Metal Maniac]

Are you using Visual Boy Advance?

 

I think some of the emulators work funny like that, no ref and such. Try using Visual Boy Advance if you're not already. If you are...well, TS, I guess.

[Guest Vyce]

To answer the original question: I think that people like the games so much because they literally give you total control of anything you'd be able to do in an actual wrestling match, and very closely simulates an actual match.

I did a CPU vs. CPU match the other night - Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs. Scott Norton.

 

Yep, Norton.

 

And damn if that match didn't have more drama and psychology than a good 50% of the matches put on by the WWE this year.