Guest edge007 Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Yes, I hate to say that I told you so, that is, to the 29 people who posted replies on my Post-Mania rantings. (It's in the forums somewhere, the topic is: WWE is going to get even worse ..but you already knew that, right on page 5) As soon as Wrestlemania finishes, I can tell you right now, that the WWE is only going to go downhill. But only if: 1. Booker T and Jericho lose 2. Angle does say goodbye Why is this? 1. Because then you have no Angle 2. no Edge for a year (which means no fresh talent to push, not like they would anyway) 3. Goldberg comes in, and just fights the Rock and Austin, and Jericho and Booker get pushed back to Tag-Midcard roles. 4. Steinern will start getting pushed again (of course he will, WWE logic) 5. Los Guerreros will STILL be in Tag Division with the likes of Rhyno and Benoit 6. They have nobody to put up against Brock, really, unless they choose benoit or rhyno 7. If HHH wins at Mania, he ahs literally nobody to fight against 8. Big Show and A-Train will still be getting a push Booker and Jericho both lost, and I now ask the question again, where to now, for these two talents? Any ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Booker T and Chris Jericho are just fine, get over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest edge007 Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Booker T and Chris Jericho are just fine, get over it. How do you figure? What the hell do they do now? Wrestle each other? That's all well and good, but they BOTH need to be pushed. By the way, that ending to the Mania XIX HHH match was so crap. I'm sure many others share that view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Booker T and Chris Jericho are just fine, get over it. How do you figure? What the hell do they do now? Wrestle each other? That's all well and good, but they BOTH need to be pushed. By the way, that ending to the Mania XIX HHH match was so crap. I'm sure many others share that view. The story is not finished, it's just the begining. Both guys are looking VERY important right now, there is nothing wrong with them at all. As a matter of fact, they look stronger now than they did a week ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest creativename Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Booker T and Chris Jericho are just fine, get over it. Enough already...we know that you think Booker and Jericho are fine. But they're not. Personally, I think Jericho will be the same as he's been for a while now--which is far below where he should be, but that's just the way it is. Booker, however, is screwed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Enough already...we know that you think Booker and Jericho are fine. But they're not. Personally, I think Jericho will be the same as he's been for a while now--which is far below where he should be, but that's just the way it is. Booker, however, is screwed. "Enough already" Can't handle a different opinion? Personally, I think Jericho put on a hell of a match at WrestleMania, he's got heat, and he's in a program with Shawn Michaels that still gives him heat. Tonight on RAW, he locked up HBK in the Walls. Seems to be he's got the best of Michaels at this part in the feud. Looks pretty strong to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Pa|adin Report post Posted April 1, 2003 I agree that they both should have gone over, it would have done so much for their careers, but they were both apart of great matches, and it all rests on how the WWE uses them now, whether as a serious threat or treat them as a joke again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest creativename Report post Posted April 1, 2003 "Enough already" Can't handle a different opinion? I can't handle pathetic attempts at condescension. His "get over it" was completely uncalled for. Take your "rebel pride" elsewhere, it has no bearing in a rational discussion. Neither does "oh but most people think this way". Facts are facts, they speak for themselves. Wise ass comments are unneccessary. As for facts, I am pretty sure Booker is in big trouble. Austin going to SD! would help, but because of Goldberg that's a wash. Fact is he's not going to beat HHH for the title, and they're probably not going to do anything worthwhile with him for the next few months. But who knows, they might surprise me--I hope they do. Don't think there's much chance of it though. I agree about Jericho--he's made out of mother-fucking teflon. Nothing can steal this guy's heat. They ain't gonna give him a push worth a damn, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Nowhere has "rebel pride" or smartass comments entered into this. At least, no more than everyone else around here dishes out. I simply defend my position, as does Downhome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted April 1, 2003 And this bullshit is why I didn't come on except for about 30 seconds the day after Wrestlemania. I'm glad Booker lost. He's not even good enough for that crap belt if he injures his leg on a pedigree. Booker T is boring as hell on the stick too when he isn't saying "Can You Dig It? Suckaaaa!!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Booker's only screwed if they keep going with this feud and he ends up not winning the title. Jericho's fine, he looked strong on Sunday and got to beat up Michaels the next night to where he needed help getting out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Booker T and Chris Jericho are just fine, get over it. Enough already...we know that you think Booker and Jericho are fine. But they're not. Seriously, don't jump on me and not expect me to come back. I'm not being some rebel or bullshit like that. Booker T and Chris Jericho ARE just fine. They are stronger now, they are in a much better program with hope to look EVEN better, and they are finally on the right track. I know different opinions are fine, but I really fail to understand how ANYONE can not understand or see this. I've heard everything from their careers are over, to other types off manure, and none of that is even close to true. It just baffles me, that's all. Even if Booker T doesn't win the title right now, or next month, the fact is that he got a huge rub and that he looks a lot stronger now. The point of the feud was NOT to give him the title, hell, I don't even think he's ready to carry WWE RAW. The POINT was to simply build him up as a competitor, and in my eyes, they are doing that better right now, than they ever have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Booker does NOT look strong. Jericho is fine, but Booker ain't. They're gonna have to put him over Helmsley at Backlash or that's it for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest creativename Report post Posted April 1, 2003 I've heard everything from their careers are over, to other types off manure, and none of that is even close to true. Heh, I think you might be referring to a thread I made about Jericho. I said that we should celebrate Jericho's career as it nears its end, but as I stated there, that was merely comedic exaggeration in the hopes of retaining my sanity. The point of the feud was NOT to give him the title, hell, I don't even think he's ready to carry WWE RAW. What, is HHH carrying Raw? Rock is carrying Raw, and once he's gone, they'll have to rely on Goldberg. The title hasn't even been in the Raw Main Event for months. Booker looks even worse for not being able to win a title that clearly treated as 2nd rate even by the WWE itself. Unless he goes over HHH for the title soon, Booker is pretty much FUBAR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 1, 2003 This reeks of Kane and RVD. C'mon guys, it was only 6 months ago. Where are they now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted April 1, 2003 This reeks of Kane and RVD. C'mon guys, it was only 6 months ago. Where are they now? And how long had Jericho and Booker T been where those two are? Pretty much since the beginning of the Invasion. As long as they look like a million bucks (which they are), I'm happy. I won't bitch until their pushes fall flat on the curb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2003 This reeks of Kane and RVD. C'mon guys, it was only 6 months ago. Where are they now? Eh, Jericho is invincible. HHH beat him TWICE, and he's still over with the crowd. And he already worked the tag ranks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted April 1, 2003 I completely understand why you feel the way you do about Booker T. He is completely underutilized and HHH is hurting every superstar on the roster. But to say the Jericho is in a bad predicament is stretching the truth too damn far. I think the main reason why HBK won at Wrestlemania is because of just that....it was Wrestemania. I wouldn't be surprised to Y2J to get pushed to the ceiling very soon, if not continue the feud with Michaels, like it looks like from watching the RAW after Wrestlemania....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Jericho vs. HBK has been going on for Months - Wrestlemania is THE place to win a match - not backlash, not judgementday, not some crappy gimmick match on RAW. He didn't win. Anything done post-wm is an afterthought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Yes Jericho will be pushed to the ceiling... That's the problem...that ceiling is made of glass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest candie45 Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Jericho will have a rematch at Backlash and Booker will be hosting at the World... oh wait.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chirs3 Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Ok, um... Will one of the "Jericho is fine as is" people please tell me how crying and kicking Michaels in the nuts makes him look stronger? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Jericho looked strong throughout the match. Shawn had to use a roll-up to beat him, and Jericho commanded both his and HBK's offense. He looked strong. The kick in the balls was dickish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chirs3 Report post Posted April 1, 2003 Yes, Jericho looked strong during the match. But then he lost cleanly, he was crying, and he kicked Michaels in the balls. I fail to see how that makes him look like anything but a crybaby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted April 1, 2003 It was a fluke roll-up. Jericho looked strong, and the only way Shawn could beat him was to catch him off-guard with a roll-up, the furthest thing away from the heartbreak kid's style. Jericho left him laying in the ring after that. He left him laying in the ring the next night, and he had to be aided to the back. Jericho looks strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 1, 2003 It was a fluke roll-up. Jericho looked strong, and the only way Shawn could beat him was to catch him off-guard with a roll-up, the furthest thing away from the heartbreak kid's style. Jericho left him laying in the ring after that. He left him laying in the ring the next night, and he had to be aided to the back. Jericho looks strong. Wasn't this basicly the same ending as the Summerslam match with HHH, and just like at WM, at Summerslam HBK was left laid out after he got the "upset" win? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted April 1, 2003 But this one was a much better paced match with a much better storyline going for it. Jericho controlled the match working between his own set of moves and taunting Shawn with his. Shawn sold better because his no selling was concentrated more towards the early going. It played off the earlier roll-up reversal segment. Shawn isn't the same as he was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
