The Dames 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2003 I bought the movie the other day without knowing anything about it, just going on word of mouth. I just finished watching it and I absolutely loved it. I'm a little confused about one thing though... The last scene with Roth and Keitel, after Orange tells White that he's a cop....the camera pans on Keitel's face while his gun is pointed at Roth. Does White kill Orange right then and there? The cops obviously shoot but is it in retaliation for White killing Orange? Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 7, 2003 From what I remember from watching it a while back, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TUS_02 Report post Posted April 7, 2003 Yeah, they didn't get Orange to the Dr's fast enough, so he was pretty much going to die from blood loss, Keitel was just putting his new friend out of his misery. The cops were just reacting at the gun shot, regardless of reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2003 But with the cops bursting in, they could have got him to a hospital in time, right? Why did Orange confess he was a cop anyway? Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted April 7, 2003 But with the cops bursting in, they could have got him to a hospital in time, right? Why did Orange confess he was a cop anyway? Dames After Orange confessed he was a cop, White was obviously not very happy. He was very angry for many reasons. One being that he was wrong about trusting Orange and everyone else was right, another being that he felt betrayed for Orange doing this to him after he felt he had a true friendship, and obviously he was pissed PERIOD that anyone called the cops. He felt it was his duty to pay Orange back, by taking his life before he could be taken care of. The reason that Orange told White that he was a cop, was obviously simply done in order for him to "come clean" before his death. At that time he felt as if he, and White, was going to die no matter what, and he wanted to let his "friend" know the truth before the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Karnage Report post Posted April 7, 2003 How the hell does Mr. Brown die? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins Report post Posted April 7, 2003 How the hell does Mr. Brown die? Got shot in the head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2003 The one unanswered question about that movie is whether Mr. Pink survives. Most believe he dies because we hear gun fire outside the warehouse but it is never confirmed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted April 7, 2003 I'm sure that Mr. Pink was killed or caught by the police, but you're right no one knows for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins Report post Posted April 8, 2003 There was a gun shot outside the building? Hmmm, I don't remember that... I always figured Pink got away with the money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted April 8, 2003 "The one unanswered question about that movie is whether Mr. Pink survives. Most believe he dies because we hear gun fire outside the warehouse but it is never confirmed." It's been a while since I watched it, but I believe Pinky gets caught -- you can hear him and the cops in the background at the end... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest What? Report post Posted April 8, 2003 Yeah, in the end, you can hear "DROP THE WEAPON!" and "DON'T SHOOT!!" and stuff like that... Mr. Pink survives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zero_Cool Report post Posted April 8, 2003 I remember my Mr. Pink dvd sleeve saying something about him surviving, but not escaping the arm of the law. I can't confirm, since I seem to have misplaced the sleeve, so... Wait, found it..yeah, he survives, and I quote them on this.. "It should be no surprise that he's the only one to survive the ordeal, though he does not escape justice." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest What? Report post Posted April 8, 2003 Yeah, in the end, you can hear "DROP THE WEAPON!" and "DON'T SHOOT!!" and stuff like that... Mr. Pink survives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zero_Cool Report post Posted April 8, 2003 SEQUEL~! Uhm..no. Would they call it "Reservoir Dog" perhaps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted April 8, 2003 Get True Romance and Pulp Fiction to complete the Trilogy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest areacode212 Report post Posted April 8, 2003 Yeah, you need to turn it up and/or listen really carefully at the very end for the Mr. Pink/police exchange. I went 10 years always thinking that my hero Mr. Pink got away. As for a sequel, wasn't there a report recently that QT's next movie (after Kill Bill) was going to be a prequel about the Vega brothers (Mr. Blonde/Vic Vega and his brother, Vincent--the PF Travolta character)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted April 8, 2003 i like to think white killed orange as the cops shot him like his last bodies motion was pulling the trigger its nice to think mr pink is running around out there i love the screw up in the eddie-joe-white standoff and yes the vega boys is his rumored next project starring madsen and travolta its supposed to have scagnetti the cop in it as well (in natural born killers as sizemore but mentioned in reservoir) another reservoir pulp often pondered question does or did joe own monster joe's garage in pulp? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted April 8, 2003 Get True Romance and Pulp Fiction to complete the Trilogy. And True Romance and Pulp Fiction are a part of what imaginary Trilogy in your head, razazteca? Tarantino has directed three movies, not including the upcoming Kill Bill and his segment in Four Rooms, but True Romance was not one of them. He only wrote it; it was directed by Tony Scott. He also wrote Natural Born Killers; does that make it part of your imaginary Trilogy, too? Jackie Brown was Tarantino's third and last film released until Kill Bill comes out. And I don't think I've ever heard anyone "ponder" whether or not the garage in Pulp was owned by the same Joe that's in Reservior Dogs....sometimes people take things too far in trying to find a connection between things. It's pathetic that two characters have the same name and hungry fans go scrounging around looking for details and other things that aren't there...because it certainly can't be just coincidence, now can it? The Vega Brothers project has been rumored since Pulp Fiction came out and everyone realized that Vic Vega (Madsen) and Vincent Vega (Travolta) had the same last name and are brother's in the QT universe. Unfortunately for all you fans out there, Tarantino's next project is supposed to be a war movie called Glorious Bastards as of right now, not the pipe/wet dream Vega Brothers prequel. That rumor got squashed YEARS ago. Where do you guys get your information? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted April 8, 2003 They are all in the "tarantino universe" reservoir true romance natural born killers pulp fiction from dusk til dawn jackie brown his story in 4 rooms is not NBK and romance got altered somewhat by their respective makers but tha basis is still set in that same world Patricia Arquettes character in True Romance Alabama used to date Mr. White Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted April 8, 2003 Patricia Arquettes character in True Romance Alabama used to date Mr. White. Again...where in the hell do you get your information because I've NEVER heard that bullshit before. You're gonna have to cite a source for that tidbit. And while all of those movies are written by QT, I'd hardly consider them all a piece of his "universe", especially From Dusk Til Dawn, since QT himself says he just wrote it on a lark because he always wanted to do a horror picture. At any rate, even if one considered them all a part of the same whole, that makes more than three or a Trilogy like razazteca was saying. And I don't see how something he wrote AND directed (his segment in Four Rooms) would be left off of the list, but yet a slew of things he only wrote (NBK, True Romance, Dusk Til Dawn) would still be included...are you going by your own standards or the man himself? Does this make Curdled a part of his "universe" since it is about the continuing adventures of the death-obsessed cabbie from Pulp Fiction? (the one that drove Butch/Bruce Willis after the fight). Probably not seeing as how you probably never heard of it and it's obvious you just make shit up as you go along. Since you more than likely have the answer, please tell us, OH Great One, what was in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted April 8, 2003 the alabama - white is from the reservoir script and the only one ive ever seen tarantino denounce as not being in the same world was his segment in four rooms the senior manager at the comic store company i used to work for ran a movie theater previously so all we did all day when we worked together was read stuff about comics and movies from 93 to 97 and a big part of that was indie darling tarantino from magazines and compuserve print outs and AOL and the like ive never read tarantino saying curdled is i mean i assume it is cause Jones is the same person but thats why i left it off my list notice i didnt include red october or sleep with me or other stuff like that (plus william baldwin cannot be associated with quentin ..usual suspects be damned..lol) why is it so obvious that i "make bullshit up as i go along"? and is it glorious? i always heard it was inglorious bastards? i never said that joe and monster joe were the same just that ive heard people argue that nor do i make any contention to say what is in the briefcase. what is your problem anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JangoFett4Hire Report post Posted April 8, 2003 WOW- someone took a healthy share of POMPOUS PILLS today... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted April 8, 2003 All you have to do is listen to the commentary tracks for all these movies and you'll hear, usually from QT himself, that these movies are connected to each in some way. Yes, Curdled is as well as it features the reporter and the Gecko Brothers from FDTD, the only scene he wrote for the movie. On the, I'm pretty sure, Jackie Brown DVD, he says that all these movies are connected in some way except for Jackie Brown. He may have winked and nodded in that movie, but the whole point of Jackie Brown is that he wanted to make a movie that was NOT in his universe, it's in Elmore Leonard's universe. Jackie Brown is actually connected to Out of Sight as Keaton's character pops up in that movie too. The last interview I saw with Tarantino was a couple of months ago and he said after Kill Bill he wanted to do Glorious Bastards, THEN The Vega Brothers if they're able to get it together. But that's such a big if that it probably won't happen. Those guys will just be way too old to do a prequel at that point. The plot of the movie is their adventures in Amsterdam which Travolta mentions in Pulp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted April 8, 2003 All you have to do is listen to the commentary tracks for all these movies and you'll hear, usually from QT himself, that these movies are connected to each in some way. [pompous mode on] Never did I say that his movies weren't connected, just that he hadn't directed them all. You don't need a commentary track to tell you that. It simply takes eyes and ears. Most times, the connection is a very simple one. But people INSIST on looking for connections that aren't there especially in cases where the director has a history of it, like Kevin Smith for instance. But sometimes there is no connection and the net rumors, etc. get to be a bit much. I just feel that the movies actually directed by him have more of a connection than the ones he simply wrote because his vision is for the most part uncompromised when he is at the helm and not all changed around and altered like True Romance and Natural Born Killers. You can count Get Shorty in that whole Elmore Leonard, Jackie Brown, Out of Sight "trilogy". [/pompous mode off] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest areacode212 Report post Posted April 8, 2003 Talk of the Vega Brothers movie started up again back in December. Whether or not it'll really get made is up in the air, but that's when I last heard about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NoCalMike Report post Posted April 8, 2003 So are the diamonds from Resevoir Dogs, what is inside the briefcase in Pulp Fiction? Many more connections between all the movies as well~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted April 8, 2003 So are the diamonds from Resevoir Dogs, what is inside the briefcase in Pulp Fiction? No one knows and Tarantino isn't telling. Personally I prefer the "It's Marsellus Wallace's soul" theory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted April 8, 2003 Never did I say that his movies weren't connected, just that he hadn't directed them all. You don't need a commentary track to tell you that. It simply takes eyes and ears. Most times, the connection is a very simple one. But people INSIST on looking for connections that aren't there especially in cases where the director has a history of it, like Kevin Smith for instance. But sometimes there is no connection and the net rumors, etc. get to be a bit much. I just feel that the movies actually directed by him have more of a connection than the ones he simply wrote because his vision is for the most part uncompromised when he is at the helm and not all changed around and altered like True Romance and Natural Born Killers. Well, I think I'll go by what Tarantino says rather than what you or anybody else on the net says. Didn't the Pulp DVD completely blow away the "soul" theory? It seems to me that it's nothing more than a MacGuffin and Tarantino's tribute to Kiss Me Deadly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted April 8, 2003 There are two tarantino universes: Universe 1: Real-Life 1. Reservoir Dogs 2. Pulp Fiction 3. True Romance Universe 2: The Movies 1. Natural Born Killers 2. From Dusk Till Dawn 3. Kill Bill This is confirmed by QT himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites