The One & Only 2003 NFL Draft Thread

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Well...Baltimore is the one who got screwed the most.

 

The Vikes probably lost out on a 2nd round pick that they would have gotten for trading down...but Baltimore didn't get to trade up and ended up giving up a FIRST next year to get a QB that I don't think is nearly as good as Leftwich.

 

At least Minnesota still got their guy

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

See...now you didn't hate the Eagles move this year did you?

[Guest the pinjockey]

That is why the Boller love screws it up, because I dont like it either. Suggs and Boller is fine but not as good as Leftwich, a 2 and a 1 next year. But they probably love the deal since they have Boller right there with Leftwich.

[Guest the pinjockey]

I am proud of the Eagles for actually doing something instead of just standing pat and taking whoever falls to them.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

In a sort of weird way I appreciat the Bills taking McGahee instead of the 6th best DT or whatever fell to them where the experts said they needed it.

 

My biggest need going in was a DE...and we got Kelsay in the second round...and only ONE was taken off the board between out picks.

 

Screw Mel Kiper. He's down on the Bills pick because...and I quote: "They needed a Tight End".

 

Well I didn't see Jeremy Shockey in this draft...so I'll take the balls out chance thanks.

[Guest the pinjockey]

They lucked out with Kelsay slipping down to them. I love Dallas Clark and think that would have been the smart pick for them, but the two areas that this draft is deep in is DL and TE so I can understand the wait if you want to take the chance.

 

I just think they have a good enough RB as of now that they didnt need to do it for that reason, but if McGahee gets healthy they have an easy first rounder next year if they trade Henry.

Edited April 27, 2003 by the pinjockey

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

They extended Henry's contract a year...and now I think he's trade bait after this year as long as McGahee continues to heal.

 

Anyone want a pro bowl running back with thre years in the league and 2 years left on his contract for 1 mil or less?

[Guest the pinjockey]

Now what happens if Henry solves his fumblitits and rushes for 1600 with 14-16 TDs this year. Do you dump McGahee for a 1st next year or still go with him as the future of the franchise?

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

It all depends on what McGahee has. I trust our coaches and GM to be able to see enough in practice and limited game time.

 

I hope Henry has that season. I really love the way he runs. The yards and TDs are certainly attainable...but that fumbling has to go.

 

He fumbled almost once a game for christsake!

 

I'm excited about the options we have. WE're obviously moving towards a ball possession run first Offense...and if Henry fumbles (remember...he'll get MORE carries now) alot we have Olandis Gary to back up until McGahee can go.

 

Too much upside to pass up.

[Guest the pinjockey]

How does Josh Reed look? Does he look like the real deal as a 2 or do they need to address that a little?

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Peerless Price didn't look like the real deal until last year himself. It's amazing how much better you can play when you finally have a QB to throw you the ball.

 

The direction of the offense changes completely because Reed doesn't have Price's homerun potential...but he does not drop balls and goes accross the middle (which Price won't do). Reed was considered a potential first rounder last year and he was impressive as the 3rd receiver.

 

If the idea for this year is to play a ball control style of offense...than Reed's 8 yard slant patterns are a perfect fit. I like him, not as much as Price...but good enough to be the #2 with Moulds on the other side.

 

What they need is a better #3...cause I don't know jack about Bobby Shaw.

[Guest the pinjockey]

You hoping for Talman Gardner in the 4th? I remember you said you liked him in the mock

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I like what he is.

 

He is what Peerless Price was...fast stretch the field...drop the easy passes...catch the hard ones.

 

It took Price 3 years to stop dropping passes. Then he busted out like a Mutherfucker though.

 

I like the added dimension that Gardner would bring...and think he's a good value in the 4th

[Guest Flyboy]

What's the order for 4-7?

[Guest phoenixrising]

Bobby Shaw is a pretty good slot reciever. He used to be the guy that Pittsburgh went to on third downs because of his good hands. He was pretty good in Jacksonville last year as a slot reciever and I wish that the Jaguars would have been able to hold on to him. He can return punts too if you need a return man.

[Guest phoenixrising]

The Bills could use a tight end though...remember Ben Coates caught 96 passes from Bledsoe in 1994 and those two used to hook up all the time in New England. If you're going to pass a lot you should have a good pass-catching tight end for another downfield option. There's still some good talent out there...I'm thinking specifically of George Wrightster from Oregon. Maybe Aaron Walker from Florida as well.

[Guest phoenixrising]

And I had to jump on the sig bandwagon as well.

 

Man, Byron looks good in a Jags jersey...if he develops into the player everyone says he will be it will be good times for the Jags.

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

I will use the sig fad to express disgust.

 

Anyway, fact is, as good as McGahee could be, you have to look at the Bill's D.

 

Now they got Spikes and Posey which is great, they have good CB's, but their line is pretty much crap. I think when you already have Henry and Gary it would have been more value to take a lineman.

 

However getting Kelsay that late was great, he'll start immediatly. But you could have I dunno Peterson on the other side, or you could have Stienbach to replace Ruben Brown. It's just seems like strengthening a strength is all.

 

ps - Shaw is pretty much the same as Reed, except, y'know, not as good.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

The Ravens have 2 4th round picks (1 compensatory), they desperately need to pick up a WR or two. No way will the Ravens be a better team win wise with Todd Heap being their #1 Reciever, even though hes probably the #2 TE in the NFL.

 

The Redskins only have 1 more pick, #232 in the 7th round..you know they just love having to stay around for that...

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Round 4

 

1 98 Cincinnati

2 99 Detroit

3 100 Chicago

4 101 Houston

5 102 New Orleans (from Arizona)

6 103 Dallas

7 104 Jacksonville

8 105 Minnesota

9 106 St. Louis

10 107 St. Louis (from Washington)

11 108 Denver (from Carolina)

12 109 Baltimore

13 110 Seattle

14 111 Buffalo

15 112 San Diego

16 113 Kansas City

17 114 Denver

18 115 Cleveland

19 116 Chicago (from N.Y. Jets)

20 117 New England (from Houston Supplemental Selection)

21 118 Cincinnati (from New Orleans)

22 119 Carolina (from Miami)

23 120 Denver (from New England through Carolina)

24 121 Atlanta

25 122 Indianapolis

26 123 N.Y. Giants

27 124 San Francisco

28 125 Pittsburgh

29 126 Tennessee

30 127 Buffalo (from Philadelphia through Buffalo)

31 128 New England (from Green Bay)

32 129 Oakland

33 130 Tampa Bay

34 131 Philadelphia (Compensatory Selection)

35 132 Jacksonville (Compensatory Selection)

36 133 Tampa Bay (Compensatory Selection)

37 134 Baltimore (Compensatory Selection)

38 135 Seattle (Compensatory Selection)

 

Round 5

136 Cincinnati

2 137 Detroit

3 138 Houston

4 139 Chicago

5 140 N.Y. Jets (from Dallas through New England and Washington)

6 141 Arizona

7 142 Cleveland (from Minnesota)

8 143 Jacksonville

9 144 Detroit (from Washington)

10 145 Carolina

11 146 Baltimore

12 147 Seattle

13 148 St. Louis

14 149 San Diego

15 150 Kansas City

16 151 Buffalo

17 152 Cleveland

18 153 N.Y. Jets

19 154 New England (from Houston Supplemental Selection)

20 155 New Orleans

21 156 Miami

22 157 New England

23 158 Denver

24 159 Atlanta

25 160 N.Y. Giants

26 161 San Francisco

27 162 Indianapolis

28 163 Pittsburgh

29 164 Tennessee

30 165 Green Bay

31 166 Philadelphia

32 167 Oakland

33 168 Tampa Bay

34 169 Miami (Compensatory Selection)

35 170 St. Louis (Compensatory Selection)

36 171 Chicago (Compensatory Selection)

37 172 St. Louis (Compensatory Selection)

38 173 Baltimore (Compensatory Selection )

 

Round 6

 

1 174 Cincinnati

2 175 Detroit

3 176 Chicago

4 177 Arizona

5 178 Dallas

6 179 Jacksonville

7 180 Minnesota

8 181 Carolina

9 182 Baltimore

10 183 Seattle

11 184 St. Louis

12 185 Green Bay (from Washington)

13 186 Dallas (from Kansas City)

14 187 Buffalo

15 188 San Diego

16 189 N.Y. Jets

17 190 Minnesota (from New Orleans)

18 191 Chicago (from Miami)

19 192 Houston (Supplemental Selection)

20 193 Chicago (from New England)

21 194 Denver

22 195 Cleveland

23 196 Atlanta

24 197 San Francisco

25 198 Indianapolis

26 199 N.Y. Giants

27 200 Kansas City (from Pittsburgh)

28 201 Tennessee

29 202 Atlanta (from Philadelphia)

30 203 Green Bay

31 204 Oakland

32 205 Tampa Bay

33 206 Chicago (Compensatory Selection)

34 207 N.Y. Giants (Compensatory Selection)

35 208 Indianapolis (Compensatory Selection)

36 209 Miami (Compensatory Selection)

37 210 Arizona (Compensatory Selection)

38 211 N.Y. Giants (Compensatory Selection)

39 212 Green Bay (Compensatory Selection)

40 213 Miami (Compensatory Selection)

41 214 Houston (Supplemental Selection)

 

Round 7

 

1 215 Cincinnati

2 216 Detroit

3 217 Houston

4 218 Chicago

5 219 Dallas

6 220 Arizona

7 221 Minnesota

8 222 Seattle (from Jacksonville)

9 223 Baltimore

10 224 Seattle

11 225 New England (from St. Louis)

12 226 Miami (from Washington)

13 227 Denver (from Carolina)

14 228 Buffalo

15 229 San Diego

16 230 Kansas City

17 231 New Orleans

18 232 Washington (from Miami)

19 233 Houston (Supplemental Selection)

20 234 New England

21 235 Denver

22 236 Dallas (from Cleveland through San Diego)

23 237 N.Y. Jets

24 238 Atlanta

25 239 New England (from Indianapolis through New Orleans)

26 240 N.Y. Giants

27 241 San Francisco

28 242 Pittsburgh

29 243 Tennessee

30 244 Green Bay

31 245 Philadelphia

32 246 Oakland

33 247 Miami (from Tampa Bay)

34 248 Miami (Compensatory Selection)

35 249 N.Y. Giants (Compensatory Selection)

36 250 Baltimore (Compensatory Selection)

37 251 St. Louis (Compensatory Selection)

38 252 Kansas City (Compensatory Selection)

39 253 Green Bay (Compensatory Selection)

40 254 St. Louis (Compensatory Selection)

41 255 N.Y. Giants (Compensatory Selection)

42 256 Green Bay (Compensatory Selection)

43 257 Green Bay (Compensatory Selection)

44 258 Baltimore (Compensatory Selection)

45 259 Cincinnati (Compensatory Selection)

46 260 Detroit (Compensatory Selection)

47 261 Chicago (Compensatory Selection)

48 262 Houston (Mr. Irrelevant!)

Edited April 27, 2003 by MarvinisaLunatic

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Cincinnati chose Weathersby.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Lee Suggs is dropping even further. I guess teams are really afraid that he won't be able to stay on the field.

[Guest the pinjockey]

Apparently Marvin Lewis is a god. He has avoided the first instance of the Bungles curse and managed to have one hell of a draft.

[Guest the pinjockey]

I don't know if it is as much that or just that there are still a few RBs on the board so they are just pushing it and will pick the last one standing since they are all similar.

[Guest the pinjockey]

OK, Dominick Davis over Suggs shows I guess they do worry about him

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

There goes O. Smith.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

The Rams are sure taking a lot of WRs this year. Martz is as bad as Spurrier.

[Guest the pinjockey]

Christ Suggs must have shot someones mother or something.

[Guest the pinjockey]

FUCK! I wanted Wallace

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

FUCK! I wanted Wallace

Why?

[Guest the pinjockey]

Antwaan Randle El of this year, but they are saying he doesnt want to switch positions so screw that.