Ken Dorsey

[Agent_Bond34 0]

As everyone knows, Ken Dorsey was drafted by the San Francisco 49ers in the 7th round in last weekend's draft.

 

The big question I'm wondering is, does he have a chance at being successful in the NFL? As we all know, he posted an impressive 38-2 record in college as a starter for the University of Miami.

 

Of course there are the big knocks against him such as arm strength and whatnot...

 

What do you guys think?

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

With the Niners?

 

I'll say yes.

 

I'd say no with any other team but QBs don't fail in San Fran.

 

The system is flawless.

[Guest El Satanico]

With the Niners? I'll say yes.

 

I'd say no with any other team but QBs don't fail in San Fran. The system is flawless.

:searches NFL rosters for Steve Young's replacement Jim Drunkenmiller:

[Guest El Satanico]

At this point I'd say that he has little to no chance.

 

But I could potentially see him returning and finding success after an extended stint in the CFL.

[Guest razazteca]

Gino Torita Version 2, if you want to talk about a QB being in a perfect system look no further than Simms going to play for the Bucs.

[Guest DrTom]

No, he has no chance.

 

Let's keep in mind the 49ers are going to add more vertical elements to their passing game -- at least those are the plans Dennis Erickson has announced so far. That doesn't favor Dorsey, who doesn't have the arm strength to gun the ball down the field. He seems like a good fit for the short-passing based West Coast offense, but remember that Dorsey doesn't really have the arm strength to zip a ball in there on the out pattern. NFL DBs sit on that pattern and can jump it like striking snakes; a chap with Dorsey's arm would get eaten alive on even a basic pattern like that.

 

Also, Dorsey showed in the Fiesta Bowl that he doesn't handle constant pressure well. NFL teams would blitz him and dog him mercilessly. If you think his arm isn't impressive in the pocket, just wait until he's running for his life with Warren Sapp on his heels.

[Guest Crazy Dan]

Of course Jeff Garcia doens't exactly have the most blazing arm strangth either, and he has done just fine. So I say let's wait and see. Wierder things have happened. I mean look at Jeff Fedler, he does not exactly set the world on fire either. Dorsey is a winner, so I think he does have a chance. Arm strength is very important, but if you can be accurate and not make mistakes, then one might be able to over compensate for a weaker arm. Joe Montana didn't have the strongest arm, but he is one of the greatest QB's ever, because he had great vision and was able to put the ball where his recievers could catch it.

 

But, reality will dictate Dorsey having a great career in NFL Europe.

[Agent_Bond34 0]

I think he might have a chance, despite the negative knocks against him.

 

From what I've read in recent news lately, Dorsey does want to prove everyone that they were wrong about passing up on him, etc, and if he is serious about that, IMO he might have a chance.

[Bored 0]

But, reality will dictate Dorsey having a great career in NFL Europe.

That's if they don't fold the league after this season which is a possibility.

[Guest Human Fly]

Dorsey will hang around as a 3rd stringer for a few years and then go play in the arena league or the CFL.

 

I don't think he'll do well based on what everyone else has heard and said, I don't need to rewrite it also. But, maybe he'll surprise, I doubt it though.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

He was what a 5th or 6th round pick. He'll have a nice career has a 2nd or 3rd string QB. Coaching his where he'll make his name after football.

[Agent_Bond34 0]

But, reality will dictate Dorsey having a great career in NFL Europe.

That's if they don't fold the league after this season which is a possibility.

Why are they gonna do that? (if it happens)

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But, reality will dictate Dorsey having a great career in NFL Europe.

That's if they don't fold the league after this season which is a possibility.

Why are they gonna do that? (if it happens)

Well when the war broke out and there was talk about moving the league to Florida fo the year, on ESPN it was either John Clayton or Chris Mortenson who said that the there are owners who want to get rid of it as the league is losing money and that they even considered getting rid of it this year.

[Guest phoenixrising]

I saw an ESPN report - believe it was John Clayton's online article - that was saying that Dorsey has been adding bulk and is up to 215 or 225 pounds, and has been working on improving his arm strength. The article also stated that the Niners believe that he has a bright future in the league. I don't know how well lifting weights is going to improve his arm strength though. As for throwing under pressure, that's a job for a quarterback coach to help him on.

[Agent_Bond34 0]

I saw an ESPN report - believe it was John Clayton's online article - that was saying that Dorsey has been adding bulk and is up to 215 or 225 pounds, and has been working on improving his arm strength. The article also stated that the Niners believe that he has a bright future in the league. I don't know how well lifting weights is going to improve his arm strength though. As for throwing under pressure, that's a job for a quarterback coach to help him on.

I've read similar stuff to this as well, except it was over at 49erswebzone.com

 

I've heard that bulk has come since the Fiesta Bowl in January and that before the draft, Dorsey impressed Niner officials in a private workout and was told not to say anything about it before the draft.

 

The 49ers may have found their QB of the future if it's all going as planned for them.

 

Just to touch on the NFL Europe bit. It doesn't really surprise me that they're losing money. Football isn't exactly a 'favorite' over in Europe, sure some might like it, but it isn't the most popular over there.

 

Were they gonna fold the league before the NFL Europe season ended or after?

[Guest PencilJobber]

I personally think Dorsey will make a good back up and could in time become the 49ers starter after Garcia goes.

He will improve in power and accuracy and already has some very important assets Leadership,Winning mentality and a football brain to go along with it having a great Arm doesn't neccesarily make you great a football brain is nearly as important in my mind anyway if he doesn't make it he will nake a great QB coach in the NFL or at Miami

[Agent_Bond34 0]

I personally think Dorsey will make a good back up and could in time become the 49ers starter after Garcia goes.

That's (most likely) the reason he was drafted.

 

I'm sure he can beat out some of the other QBs, like Tim Rattay and Brandon Doman, for a spot on the roster.

 

He'll be there when the season starts, IMO.

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I'm sure he can beat out some of the other QBs, like Tim Rattay and Brandon Doman, for a spot on the roster.

Rattay played well when he filled in for Garcia in a couple of games last year so he has the #2 spot pretty securely. They want to see more of Doman and let's not forget Cade McNown is still on the roster but maybe he'll be a June 1st cut. If I had to take a guess, I think Dorsey will spend the year on the practice squad.

[Agent_Bond34 0]

Well, hey I could be wrong, it isn't a guarantee that Dorsey will beat any of these guys in training camp.

 

I think he can beat Brandon Doman though. I've never really been so sold on him anyways, never really seen what was so great about him. If they want to see more of him, then that's fine, maybe he'll impress the coaching staff. Who knows?

 

Cade McNown could be the 'odd man out' going into training camp as they'll end up having 4 QBs on the roster to give him more time to heal from his surgery if he hasn't healed already. I've heard a few different stories about this and really haven't gotten an 'official' word on his status.

 

You are right about Rattay though, bad example in my last post. I do remember him playing rather decent in the two or three games in which he game in off the bench for Garcia. He'll probably be a back-up at best, or maybe I'm wrong?

 

If Ken Dorsey spends a year on the practice squad or even on the 49ers roster at whatever string, I hope he does everything necessary to improve his game, be it arm strength, mobility, etc.

 

I think it'd make quite a story.

[Guest El Satanico]

49ers drafted him because he's a "winner" and I'm sure they will work hard on turning him into a capable NFL QB.

 

He'll either become a backup QB that's capable of starting in a year or two or he'll go to the CFL.

[Guest Vitamin X]

He'll probably have a chance, but I really don't see how in the hell these highly touted college prospects got drafted into situations where the quarterback in place is just fine?

 

Ken Dorsey where Jeff Garcia is. Chris Simms where Brad Johnson is in place. How about Drew Henson getting drafted by the Texans when they already had David "Take a lickin and keep on tickin" Carr? Sure he may be a Yankees prospect, but the Yanks might not keep him around that much longer, and when he comes crawling to the NFL, the Texans only have him around as trade bait.

[Guest El Satanico]

He'll probably have a chance, but I really don't see how in the hell these highly touted college prospects got drafted into situations where the quarterback in place is just fine?

What exactly don't you get about that?

 

NFL teams need good backups these days. Alot of great college QBs aren't good enough to be NFL starters coming straight from college.

[Agent_Bond34 0]

How about Drew Henson getting drafted by the Texans when they already had David "Take a lickin and keep on tickin" Carr? Sure he may be a Yankees prospect, but the Yanks might not keep him around that much longer, and when he comes crawling to the NFL, the Texans only have him around as trade bait.

That one makes the least sense, IMO.

 

I mean the Texans drafted David Carr a year earlier with their first overall pick, and then a year later, they draft Dave Ragone and Drew Henson, who has said that the NFL isn't in his future plans.

 

Just doesn't make sense to me, unless someone knows something about this that I don't.

[Guest El Satanico]

Well the Texans could use a backup QB and Ragone was a highly ranked QB if he entered last years draft so he could be a nice steal.

 

The Drew Henson pick up was purely for potential trade bait. Next years draft class is very weak on QBs, so the rights to Henson could prove very valuable to Houston.

 

Also the choice to play baseball or football may become alot clearly for Henson by the next NFL draft. There's major talk that Henson will be cut by the Yankees if he doesn't show major improvement. So if he can't make the Yankees who are doing everything they can to keep his future spot open, then his best bet may be coming back to football.

[Agent_Bond34 0]

That does make a bit more sense.

 

Do you think they could use Ragone as trade bait at all? And do you think that Drew Henson will have any chance at a good NFL career if he were to come back to football?

[Guest El Satanico]

I have no idea as to what kind of career Henson could have in the NFL, but he'll still draw alot of attention next year since it's suppose to be a weak QB class.

[Agent_Bond34 0]

I have no idea as to what kind of career Henson could have in the NFL, but he'll still draw alot of attention next year since it's suppose to be a weak QB class.

Looking at next year's class of QBs, it does look weak.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Why would Drew Henson give up Baseball when signed a 14 million dollar contract. Houston always has the option of trading Henson down the line.

If Carr works out,and Henson leaves baseball Houston could make a fairly decent trade with someone for Henson.

[Guest El Satanico]

Well, I'm not saying that he would decide to give up his $14 million contract. I heard the rumors that the Yankees may cut their loses if he doesn't show improvement this season, so it may not be up to him.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

That might happen. Henson hasn't shown he can hit worth a lick in the minors. Would any other team consider signing Henson. It could be he can't stand the pressure of being the future Yankee 3rd Basemen.