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Guest Dmann2000
That's not burial. This would be burial: after a horribly booked reign where your main finisher was the belt shot, and you were fetching lotion and cleaning up dog crap while your opponent's ex-wife (in the storyline) has most of the attention on her, you get to job at Wrestlemania, then two months later job again to the same opponent in a hell in a cell match, are KOed by an open-hand slap on the face from a rookie then job to him in two lousy matches (one on PPV) all the while your submission finisher is constantly escaped from and made to look completely non-threatening...well, I could go on, but you get the picture.

Nah, that's not a burial.

 

A burial is when you dig a ditch, throw somebody in said ditch, and then cover him and the hole with dirt. Saying a few words about the departed is optional. That's a burial.

 

All else is just fucking wit a guy.

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Guest Choken One

 

I don't know how in the hell nobody mentioned Benoit/Eddy from Armageddon 2002.  The Wild Bomb was memorable, but the match was a huge disappointment. By all rights it should have been at least ****.

That was just a Sub-Par match...They ALWAYS click...They have had like 20 ***-***** matches...

I don't remember them facing each other lately in singles matches, so I just cited that one.

 

Jesus They foght a TON as early as 1991 and as recently as that show itself...

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Guest AndrewTS

 

I don't know how in the hell nobody mentioned Benoit/Eddy from Armageddon 2002.  The Wild Bomb was memorable, but the match was a huge disappointment. By all rights it should have been at least ****.

That was just a Sub-Par match...They ALWAYS click...They have had like 20 ***-***** matches...

I don't remember them facing each other lately in singles matches, so I just cited that one.

 

Jesus They foght a TON as early as 1991 and as recently as that show itself...

I didn't watch much WCW and I have a bad memory when it comes to TV matches.

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Guest Choken One

Actully, They only fought on TV in WCW MAYBE twice and nothing special...Most of the goodies were in Japan or International...Under the Guise of Wild Pegsus Vs Black Tiger

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Guest wildpegasus

I think you're mistaken on Benoit and Eddy not having any special matches in WCW.Benoit and Eddy fought each other at least 15 times on WCW tv in single matches. All were at least good.This doesn't even count tags!

Oct 16 95 Their very first meeting on Nitro was awesome as it was very New Japanish in its structure. It's noteworthy for having the most powerful powerbomb ever in the history of wrestling.

Nov 7 Nitro Benoit vs Eddie: More great stuff with the man himself JUshin Liger looking on

Nov 25 95: They had a WCW best bout of the 90's candidate from from WCWSN.Awesome match with one of the best endings I've ever seen.

Jan 20 96 WCWSN Short match, but fun

Jan 21? 96 Very good to great match shown on the prime and Worldwide. Pillman interferes.

Mar 2 96 WCWSN Another thumbs up match

Mar 9 96 WCWSN Ditto

April 29 96 Nitro:Very good match

June 23? WW Good match but they really Americanised it wich hurt the match in my eyes

July 15 96 Nitro Great stuff with Benoit pulling off a very agile counter to the tilt a whirl backbreaker

July 28? 96 WW Another good match but as with the previous WW match they americanised it too much which seemed to hurt it.

Oct 28 96 Nitro Benoit vs Eddie which was "ruint" because both were overexaggerating injuries from the night before

Nov 18 96: Great match which was actually the main event match of the evening.

Dec 23 96 : another noteworthy match in the WCW United States title tourmament which was great and noteworthy for an absolutely rabid crowd.

Oct 20 97: This was a WCW cruiserweight title match and was showcased by a super hyped crowd and as good as it gets action.

There was also one more match in 98 from Thunder after the Benoit Booker T series. However, it was too short to amount to anything.

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Guest Spaceman Spiff
Brian Kendrick and Insert WCW Cruiserweight Here.

 

It doesn't matter if it's Noble, Shannon Moore, whoever. Kendrick's best highlight so far has been jobbing to Matt Hardy and Kurt Angle.

Kendrick had a match w/ Knoble a few weeks ago on SD that I thought was decent, given the amt. of time the match got (a few minutes).

 

Helms' problem is that, as mentioned before, he's playing a super-heavy trapped in a cruiser body. Plus, there really isn't anyone on Raw he matches up well with. He had a couple good matches w/ Stevie on Heat. But outside of guys like Jericho or Christian, everybody on Raw is much bigger than Helms.

 

As for combinations that sucked, Eddy & Booker had a couple matches on Raw that absolutely blew. Neither guy looked in sync w/ the other. I'm sure they must have crossed paths in WCW, so they should at least know each other somewhat.

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Guest bob_barron

I thought Benoit v. Eddy from Armageddon was pretty awesome.

 

In 2001 they also had an awesome singles match on RAW.

 

Austin has made Jericho look weak in every match I've seen them in. The match a week before Vengeance was an extended squash as was their horrifically boring cage match.

 

They had a pretty good match on Smackdown! in 2001 but that's about it

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Guest Lord of The Curry

Benoit vs RVD from SummerSlam 2002 should have and could have been a fuck of a lot better then it was.

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Guest saturnmark4life

That match just pisses me off, Rob's nonexistent selling was always going to be a problem, but they booked it in a way that he HAD to no sell, because he was going over with an aerial finisher. (IIRC) If he HAD to go over (and he fucking didn't) use a rollup from the crossface or something, don't make everyone look stupid by just shrugging off the whole match and hitting a frog splash, then getting the pin straight away.

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Guest godthedog
Did Flair/Hart ever have a classic together?

dear god yes. at a house show in boston, while bret was champion, they had a 60-minute iron man match, which is my 3rd-favorite match ever & i think the best performance of bret's career (narrowly beating out summerslam 92 and his series with owen). i did a review of it a while ago in the smarks crew folder, i think it's on page 5 or 6.

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Guest The Hamburglar
Gee, is some one biased against Steve Austin here? I think it's fitting to bring up how Sakura notes that anytime Jericho or another smark favorite loses a match it's called "burial." He lost a match the WEEK BEFORE HIS BIGGEST WIN EVER ON THE PAY PER VIEW! Gee, he must be being buried, right? It took ONLY 7 minutes to beat him, you say? Holy crap, what a horrible jobber squash that was; blink and you'll miss the match.

 

Funny, I don't remember this match at all. However, by your description it must have been 7 minutes of Austin mostly no-selling Jericho's offense or not letting him get in any offense while Austin slaughtered him. Right?

Well, considering that at this so-called "biggest win of his career", Jericho needed thousands of run-ins to beat Austin after being beaten around like a little bitch for most of the match, and only winning after a booker T beltshot to Austin...Why yes, I would consider it a burial. Jericho was never portrayed as being anywhere near close to beating Austin one on one. And I didn't even mention the debacle that was their NWO 2002 feud/match, because it was just more of the same. Between Austin destroying his credibility and the fact that Jericho's full heel character just wasn't that good at that time, Jericho was already buried by the time Triple H got round to him. Triple H just prevented him from rebuilding his credibility in any meaningful way.

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Guest cabbageboy

I disagree with the RVD/Eddie matches, I liked the ladder match a lot, the 2 PPVs they fought on were both very good matches (somewhat underrated), and a house show match I saw was cool too.

 

In terms of that Benoit/RVD match the SS one was peculiar....the Raw match before it was pretty bad ass though.

 

I'd say Booker and Rock never really did much for me.

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Guest bob_barron

I remember Angle and Jericho had an awesome 7 minute match on RAW in 2001.

 

Edge and Christian's singles match was pretty dissapointing

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Guest EternallyLazy

Rock vs. Booker at SummerSlam was very good considering they came on right after the CLASSIC Austin/Angle match

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Guest eiker_ir

how is the Angle/Jericho match at Rebellion 2001? i've never seen it

 

i've just seen their match at NWO 2000 wich was a pretty good match, but Angle still was learning at that point

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Guest Raven_Effect01

The Eddie Guerrero/Nunzio and Benoit/Nunzio matches on Smackdown were also disappointing.

 

In the Eddie/Nunzio match, Eddie did most of the wrestling while Nunzio just did a bunch of stomping and choking.

 

In the Benoit/Nunzio match, Benoit chopped too much and Nunzio didn't do a whole lot either.

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Guest AndrewTS
how is the Angle/Jericho match at Rebellion 2001? i've never seen it

 

i've just seen their match at NWO 2000 wich was a pretty good match, but Angle still was learning at that point

I'll get back to you on that one...about to watch it now.

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Guest bob_barron
how is the Angle/Jericho match at Rebellion 2001? i've never seen it

 

i've just seen their match at NWO 2000 wich was a pretty good match, but Angle still was learning at that point

Very good match- a bit too slow at points but overall it's really good

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Guest AndrewTS
how is the Angle/Jericho match at Rebellion 2001? i've never seen it

 

i've just seen their match at NWO 2000 wich was a pretty good match, but Angle still was learning at that point

I'll get back to you on that one...about to watch it now.

15 minutes long. Gets a little slow at the 10 minute mark.

 

Mostly pretty fast paced, as they meshed very well at the start of the match, using a few Olympic-style takedowns on each other, and keeping the action fast and frantic. After Angle got thrown into the stairs, Jericho posted the left shoulder and then started to attack it. Angle even sold it well by not using it to throw chops.

 

However, when Angle less than a minute after having his shoulder worked on CLOTHESLINED Jericho with the left arm and then SUPLEXED Jericho with no ill effects and completely forgot the rest of the match, it lost a bit there.

 

The rest was very good, and Jericho's use of the anklelock and some follow up attacks to the area looked excellent, and Angle sold the ankle when he blocked the Lionsault. Jericho countered an Angle Slam attempt by rolling up Angle and grabbing the left leg and rolling him up. Looks like the leg psychology factored well into the ending, and Angle sells it after the finish. So I'd give it a solid ***1/4 and would love to see what they could do these days.

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