Guest Tony149 Report post Posted May 1, 2003 From the Torch website... Raven's (a/k/a Scott Levy) latest contract with NWA-TNA expired last night. He told friends that he has been working under a series of short-term contracts since he started with TNA, and declined to sign a new deal with the company last night. Some TNA sources believe Raven is holding out for more money, while others believe he didn't sign so that he and the Vince Russo camp would have additional leverage in what many perceive as an on-going struggle with the Jarrett family for booking power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 1, 2003 That's very interesting stuff. I'm really not worried about him not being on TNA because...what else is he gonna do? But still interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted May 1, 2003 He could always go to XP...oh, wait... How about Ro...no, he wouldn't fit in. Maybe MLW? Yeah...but not nearly as much exposure. CZW? Not nearly as much exposure, would probably have to kill himself more. TNA is Raven's best career choice, as I see it. I hope he comes to an agreement and signs another contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 1, 2003 Well...Raven is actually going to work RoH (I'm almost sure that's what he said on WOL) but as far as being on TV with a character that he can develop...there's only TNA. He likes it there (or so he has said) alot and talked alot about wanting to help TNA make it so he could say he was part of something special. This is just one more interesting thing in the growing list of behind the scenes interesting things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2003 now what would have happened if he would have won the belt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2003 if he is holing out for money, then he will resign before the next show if they dont give it to him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Son of Sting Report post Posted May 1, 2003 If it was a power move it didnt seem to work, i would guess he just wants more money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted May 1, 2003 Like Bps said, the stuff going on behind the scenes is interesting. I'm not sure if it's really a money issue as I would think the guys loyal to TNA will stick it out no matter what, with the idea being: If the company hits it big, they'll probably get rewarded well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ShooterJay Report post Posted May 1, 2003 Raven's been with ROH since April, working a program with CM Punk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tpww7 Report post Posted May 1, 2003 So maybe Raven was suppose to win after all..who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Astro101 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2003 Yea...maybe that explains the no title change last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doyo Report post Posted May 2, 2003 Raven is scheduled for the next MLW show. He has been all over the place since leaving WWE: ROH, IWA Mid South, 3PW to name a few. TNA contracts aren't exclusive, the wrestlers can go work anywhere they want on days they aren't scheduled for TNA. The only group in the USA that signs guys to exclusive deals is WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 2, 2003 That's right. I'm really not concerned with Raven not being on TNA. I mean...he could miss this week I guess...but he'll be back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OSIcon Report post Posted May 2, 2003 How are you so sure of that? I am not saying that I don't think Raven will be back, but you act as if he needs TNA. I don't think that's the case at all. As people have pointed out, he's getting plenty of work in different places. TNA doesn't exactly dish out the big dollars, so I don't think it would greatly hurt him financially to not be there. I just don't see any big reasons that would make it 100 guarenteed that he will stick around there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 2, 2003 Because it isn't always about money. Raven is one of the few people who I beleive when he speaks...and it was maybe what? two weeks since he was on WOL? He likes it there. Strangely he likes Russo alot. This is just one more thing to add to whatever the hell is going on behind the curtain. Above all Raven likes the creative in wrestling. The only weekly outlet for that where he can reach people and build things is TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 2, 2003 I should add to that... If Raven never does come back to TNA... hat's off to TNA for using him to his fullest while he was there. Between late January and yesterday they were able to build the most anticipated match in the company's history. So there's a plus there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted May 2, 2003 Eh he'll be back I would assume. But still this is an interesting scenario here, rather ironic that his contract expired the same night as the big title bout. It may or may not have anything to do with who won the match.......I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted May 2, 2003 I don't know if I believe this at all. They have vested a lot of time into Raven and I don't think he's going anywhere. I definately think he might be off this week to keep the character fresh but that is about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultimo Dugas 0 Report post Posted May 2, 2003 It is very odd that the big match conincided with the end of his contract. I mean, if he wouldn't resign his contract, they couldn't make him champion just to make sure that they wouldn't be left without one, not that I think he would've won the title and left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slapnuts00 Report post Posted May 2, 2003 I think this explains a lot. If Raven refused to sign a new contract and was holding out for more money, it becomes a lot clearer why the Jarrets would make the safe move for their company and have Jeff retain, who they know will not be jumping or holding out anytime soon. So much for all of you that cried "HHH=Jeff Jarret". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted May 2, 2003 There's no way you can put the belt on a guy whose deal runs out that night. I'm not saying Raven won't be back in a couple weeks or TNA isn't interested in him or anything, but I think it definatly explains a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 3, 2003 From the Torch site: "-Although Raven's latest contract with TNA expired yesterday, he is expected to appear at next week's pay-per-view. As noted yesterday, he has been working under a series of short-term contracts, so aside from the rumored request for more money, his contract expiring is not considered out of the ordinary" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tank_abbott Report post Posted May 3, 2003 Raven will be in Denmark, Wisconsin for ACW on June 6th... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted May 3, 2003 Yea that's true, if you think about it, if he works short term contracts, they're bound to expire regularly. I've grown quite uncaring of Raven. He has a cool name, good promo skills, and bumps like a mad man BUT he looks like shit. I can't get behind someone who looks like they were a Mardi Gras hooker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted May 3, 2003 Yea that's true, if you think about it, if he works short term contracts, they're bound to expire regularly. I've grown quite uncaring of Raven. He has a cool name, good promo skills, and bumps like a mad man BUT he looks like shit. I can't get behind someone who looks like they were a Mardi Gras hooker. What a stupid reason to not like someone, no offense. How does he look like shit? If you're saying he's not in shape, you have no idea what you're talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Notorious CRD Report post Posted May 3, 2003 I think Raven and TNA can be very beneficial for each other and hopefully he'll stay with the company for a good long time. We saw the reaction to Jarrett winning this week, so I think TNA will do whatever they have to in order to keep Raven in the fold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted May 3, 2003 I wouldn't be surprised if Raven is one of TNA's top draws. He's certainly a major factor into my ordering, and I don't think I'm alone on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted May 4, 2003 Yea that's true, if you think about it, if he works short term contracts, they're bound to expire regularly. I've grown quite uncaring of Raven. He has a cool name, good promo skills, and bumps like a mad man BUT he looks like shit. I can't get behind someone who looks like they were a Mardi Gras hooker. What a stupid reason to not like someone, no offense. How does he look like shit? If you're saying he's not in shape, you have no idea what you're talking about. I hope I never find any threads from you saying you hate A-Train because of how hairy he is or Big Show because of how fat he is or Jazz because of how non-stereotypically feminine she looks. I said Raven looks like shit. He looks so cracked out and just looks disgusting, I'm sure he could go back to his old look now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted May 4, 2003 Actaully you wont, if anything I hate all of those you mention because they aren't very entertaining in the ring, and thats what matters to me. The closest thing I will shit on a worker about is stamina, if they blow up real fast, which may have something to do with not being in shape but again I could give a fuck less if they were a tub of lard as long as they could go still in the ring. Hell, Mick Foley is one of my favorites just for an example of how I could care less about how someone looks as long as they entertain. Hey, how about Dymanite Kid? He always looked like shit from all of his drug usage and rough travel schedules where he would pretty much look like he was majorly hungover most of his career, yet have you heard anyone say they hate him because of such a thing? He still performed and entertained. Have you even seen any TNA recently, I'm missing where he looks "cracked out." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
