Guest Choken One Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 I was wondering about you guys opinion on the protrayal of the Homosexual Community on Network/Cable televison. Whom has been the best representation and whose has been a bad representation... I would Imagine that Will Truman from W&G and Jack from Dawson's Creek would have to be the best Representations of An Homosexual Character on tv in Network TV... With Ellen Degeneres character being the worst...
Guest El Satanico Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 Other than the fact that she constantly talked about it and her show went to total shit, I wouldn't think Ellen was a bad representation of their community. However, I suppose it may have made gay people look bad in the eyes of us commoners. Of course, that would then lead to some morons thinking that since her show went to shit after she came out it means that "gay people are bad"
Guest Choken One Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 I meant more as representing the community in terms of their characters... Ellen I believe was a Horrible Representation because she tried to hard to make it seem like she was breaking down doors when she merely wasn't... She decicded that Promoting her sexual orientation was more important then the good of a popular and well recieved show.
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 I thought Beecher from Oz was pretty good, although he wasn't strictly gay.
Guest treble charged Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 Is the guy who plays Jack on Will & Grace gay in real life?
Guest Youth N Asia Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 I thought Beecher from Oz was pretty good, although he wasn't strictly gay. He was gay for the stay at first, but then he fell in love with Keller, I was iffy on that storyline, but happy with the way they ended it. Willow from Buffy is a good portrail. Unlike Ellen, 100% of her being on tv isn't "look at me, I'm gay." Plus she's a powerful character
Guest Choken One Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 Is the guy who plays Jack on Will & Grace gay in real life? Nope...Straight as a Board.
Guest Narcoleptic Jumper Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 David and Keith from Six Feet Under are good.
Guest The Hamburglar Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 How can Willow be a good gay character when the actress is so clearly very uncomfortable in her love scenes? She has been a good character, just not a good gay one. The guys from the British version of Queer as Folk were cool, as was Carter from Spin City.
Guest Reservoir_Kitty Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 Will Truman is a good representation, I think. My best friend is gay and he reminds me of Will and vice versa. Jack, on the other hand, is kinda stereotypical. You know what I mean? The lispy, wave-your-arms-like-mad, over the top drama queen? Yeah. Although he is pretty amusing. (I haven't watched that show in ages...)
Guest Retro Rob Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 I know we are discussing TV here, but I was just watching As Good as it Gets on TBS and Greg Kinnear's portrayal of Simon was fantastic.
Guest Marshall Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 What about Jack from Dawsons? Wasn't he involved in the first gay kiss on TV?
Guest WrestlingDeacon Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 I think the first gay kiss on T.V. was back on Soap with Billy Crystal who was one of the first openly gay characters on television. I'd have to double check that.
Guest Retro Rob Posted May 17, 2003 Report Posted May 17, 2003 Wasn't the one on Will & Grace the first on primetime network TV? I remember NBC hyping the shit out of it.
Guest Vyce Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 Is the guy who plays Jack on Will & Grace gay in real life? Nope...Straight as a Board. He's as straight as David Hyde Pierce!
Guest Flyboy Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 Is the guy who plays Jack on Will & Grace gay in real life? Nope...Straight as a Board. He's as straight as David Hyde Pierce! Hey, buddy! What's that suppose to mean?
Guest Retro Rob Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 FYI, David Hyde Pierce is pretty much an exact opposite of Niles.
Guest WrestlingDeacon Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 Ok, from what I can find the kiss on Dawson's Creek was the first directly shown open mouth gay kiss between two men on the air. Some mild stuff had been done before that, from what I was talking about on Soap was about the first time another man was showng kissing another on the cheek in a romantic way and the first time a gay relationship was really given any serious weight.
Guest Slingshot Suplex Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 The skipper and Gilligan......dominant/submissive.....
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 "I was wondering about you guys opinion on the protrayal of the Homosexual Community on Network/Cable televison." I don't have an opinion. Sorry. But I like the "Gay John" character on NYPD Blue...
Guest Marshall Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 Jack was the longest teen gay kiss on TV, I knew it was something.
Guest Lil Naitch Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 Wasn't the one on Will & Grace the first on primetime network TV? I remember NBC hyping the shit out of it. Rosanne. 'Nuff said. They promoted the hell outa that kiss. And I think that Willow is a good portrayal, maybe better w/ Tara than Kennedy, but still good. It isn't OUT THERE, it's just who she is.
Guest Ravenbomb Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 Christopher Lowell, the interior decorator guy wait wait wait, when did Willow turn gay?
Mecha Mummy Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 Willow became gay in Season Four when Oz left and she met Tara. That's all I remember, I didn't watch much of Seasons Four or Five. And I think Carter from Spin City was a good gay character as well.
Guest Lil Naitch Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 wait wait wait, when did Willow turn gay? You haven't kept up. :shakes head: In Season 4 Oz left, and Willow met Tara through a Wicca group. they teased a relationship all through the season, untill she finaly chose Tara over Oz in the Ep. when he came back and was captured by the Initiative. That was also the Ep when she finally told Buffy about Tara, methinks. She's been Gay ever since, a stance I'm glad they did not turn their backs on when Tara died. Makes it more real, IMO.
Guest Ravenbomb Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 I haven't kept up because during 4th season I had to miss a couple episodes, I can't even remember what ones they were now, I saw Graduation 2 and didn't really know what was going on. Then I got back into it during college, but in the episode where she suddenly had a sister I assumed that was the signal of the shows quality ceasing and I stopped watching. I hear it's still good, so I'd like to get back into it.
Guest HellSpawn Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 ...wait wait wait, when did Willow turn gay? And she was hinted as gay in an episode where Buffy and her pals face, mm... themselves as a group of vampires. Vamp Willow looks very comfortable while she was holding, again mmm. herself. An at the very end, Normal Willow said something about "And I think Im gay (not sure, I only saw this episode on spanish)"
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