Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted May 31, 2003 okay i found out today my grandfather is a Free Mason and that I have a small chance of joining if i wish. Now It sounds cool but i know very little about them (probably because they're a secret organization) so i was wondering if you guys knew anything or could point me in the right direction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted May 31, 2003 I have nothing to contribute here but this: I always wanted to know the deal with Freemasons, and why the hell they're so damned controversial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Report post Posted May 31, 2003 Some of their symbolism is vaguely Satanic, which makes the Christians hate them. And of course the conspiracy theorists say they run the world. I didn't know it was so hard to get in though... I've known a few in my life, even been invited to go to a meeting, it didn't seem like such a big deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted May 31, 2003 i had a very close uncle who was a freemason & got to hear some very cool shit about it. you know the masked ball orgy in 'eyes wide shut'? they do that, or at least something akin to it, where they'll get girls and have these rituals with them--they'll all dress up and the whole thing usually ends with the higher-ups taking turns having sex with one (or more) of the girls on the bare floor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted May 31, 2003 i had a very close uncle who was a freemason & got to hear some very cool shit about it. you know the masked ball orgy in 'eyes wide shut'? they do that, or at least something akin to it, where they'll get girls and have these rituals with them--they'll all dress up and the whole thing usually ends with the higher-ups taking turns having sex with one (or more) of the girls on the bare floor. Where do I sign up? Edit: Are the Freemasons the guys that drive in those little cars with the Fez hats? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted May 31, 2003 Those are Shriners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted May 31, 2003 If you get a newsletter and t-shirt, JOIN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted May 31, 2003 Those are Shriners. Ah yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Report post Posted May 31, 2003 I think Free Masons do wear fezs though. I remember hearing some Christian propaganda that it was based on a Moslem ritual of slaughter where the streets would flow with blood and they would dip their hats in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KingOfOldSchool Report post Posted May 31, 2003 They're controversial simply because of people who don't know anything about them and jump to conclusions as a result. Thus, scare tactics were begun by those who didn't understand. The most controversial thing about them is probably fact that many influential citizens throughout history and around the world have been Masons. Thus, many conspiracy theories came about regarding the group and these people. The Masons are a fraternal, centuries old organization, but who just happen to be exclusive in membership. According to things I've read, they live their life according to the virtues of friendship, morality, brotherly love, relief of the distressed, and truth. However, as far as I know, Freemasonry requires belief in a creator for membership, whoever or whatever that may be. It has something or other to do with the philosophy of the group, in that if you don't believe in a creator, you won't be able to grasp the philosophy to it's fullest extent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ShooterJay Report post Posted May 31, 2003 So you could be a Jewish freemason, or a Catholic or Muslim freemason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted May 31, 2003 From what I understand they use to be powerful (in like the 1800's-early 1900s), but now they aren't that big of a deal. Well unless that's just what they want people to think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted May 31, 2003 From what I understand they use to be powerful (in like the 1800's-early 1900s), but now they aren't that big of a deal. Well unless that's just what they want people to think. CONSPIRACY~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted May 31, 2003 During the age of Jackson we had the Anti-Masonic Party, a political party with the primary platform of being against the Masons. They eventually merged with the Whigs, I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted May 31, 2003 At least memorize the group song. Who controls the British crown Who keeps the metric system down We do! We do! Who leaves Atlantis off the maps Who keeps the Martians under wraps We do! We do! Who holds back the electric car Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star We do! We do! Who robs the cave fish of their sight Who rigs every Oscar night We do! We do! Sorry. The stonecutter episode of the Simpsons was the first thing that popped into my head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EsotericMaster Report post Posted May 31, 2003 Shriners and Masons = Same Thing Free Masonry = Bad Idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Marshall Report post Posted May 31, 2003 Yeah, I thought of the Stonecutters too. I guess thats what it was based on. Sorry I have nothing else to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2003 I thought you quit your lumberjack job and were heading into the trades business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lil Naitch Report post Posted May 31, 2003 i had a very close uncle who was a freemason & got to hear some very cool shit about it. you know the masked ball orgy in 'eyes wide shut'? they do that, or at least something akin to it, where they'll get girls and have these rituals with them--they'll all dress up and the whole thing usually ends with the higher-ups taking turns having sex with one (or more) of the girls on the bare floor. That's just disturbing for me. My Grandfather was a Freemason, and he's not the kind of guy I picture doing that sort of thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted May 31, 2003 It's funny, both my dad and his father have Masonic membership and they say it's a Christian-based organization. Masonry is a fraternal organization that promotes brotherhood between members. You had anti-masonic groups b/c they would look at the effects of decisions on the other members of the group foremost and several influential members of Freemasonry were definitely important. George Washington, Jefferson, Adams, etc. Few things actually stood above the importance of brotherhood for Freemasons. British troops during the American Revolution, would go to mason meetings and then be upset about shooting fellow members. Americans, on the other hands, had no such compunctions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted June 1, 2003 okay that's all pretty cool. I might just join then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChris Report post Posted June 1, 2003 All I know is my grandfather was one, and my uncle was pretty pissed about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted June 1, 2003 Stonecutters > Free Masons No Homers Club > Both of them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted June 2, 2003 I believe they were the ones who discovered that Jesus as actually killed by the Romans, not the Jews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ShooterJay Report post Posted June 2, 2003 I believe they were the ones who discovered that Jesus as actually killed by the Romans, not the Jews. YAY, Freemasons! How do I get invited? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted June 3, 2003 you either have a relitive who is already a free mason or you save the life of one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted June 3, 2003 Now you'll get to celebrate Festivus, unlike the rest of us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Flying Dutchman Report post Posted June 3, 2003 CWM, I'm coming up to wherever you're logging and then I'm going to stand around waiting for a tree to nearly fall on you, at which point, I will push you out of har - ... Push you out of harm's wa - ... I'll probably just let you die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted June 3, 2003 aw and i was going to tell you the super secret reason why everyone looks at you weird. (it's because of the star trek jump suit) and i was going to tell you who killed JFK...ow well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Flying Dutchman Report post Posted June 3, 2003 Leave the jumpsuit alone. It brings in all those fly Klingon honeys. Besides, knowing you, you'll just blame JFK's assassination on Courtney Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
