Guest Ripper Report post Posted June 2, 2003 Well then, with all due respect, you are just as much as a piece of crap as he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Eyebrow is on fire Report post Posted June 2, 2003 You can't say that a woman that stays with a abusive man deserves what she gets. It's easy to label her as stupid and weak, but there are deep psychological problems that she has to overcome to leave a person like that. . If a person makes dangerous decisions putting their physical health at risk over a pipe dream emotional attachment - they're weak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lemon Drop Kid Report post Posted June 2, 2003 You can't say that a woman that stays with a abusive man deserves what she gets. It's easy to label her as stupid and weak, but there are deep psychological problems that she has to overcome to leave a person like that. Now, I'm not a big proponent of the "Abused women who come back deserve it" argument myself, but to play devil's advocate, isn't stupidity a deep psychological problem? Also, in a way, the "they can't help the fact that they keep coming back" thing sounds somewhat demeaning of womanly intelligence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted June 2, 2003 Your best friend has a rage problem and obvioiusly will attack people he cares about. You are at risk of getting the back of your skull caved in because you beat him in Madden or something. Yet you still hang out with the fucker...right. Your friend can punch women, but thats ok because he has a rage problem(a MENTAL problem) but the girl is weak because of her MENTAL problem. Okay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Eyebrow is on fire Report post Posted June 2, 2003 Well then, with all due respect, you are just as much as a piece of crap as he is. Not true, I don't beat women and I love kittens. It all balances out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted June 2, 2003 It is the same thing if a 16 year old boy is getting beaten by his father at home. He COULD report him, he COULD move out. But why doesn't he. Fear has made people do crazy things and if you have ever listen to women who have been beaten but finally worked up the courage to leave you would understand the fear and psychological barriors that they have to overcome. It is easy to be on the outside looking in and it is alot more complicated than "Wow, she is just stupid." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted June 2, 2003 Well then, with all due respect, you are just as much as a piece of crap as he is. Not true, I don't beat women and I love kittens. It all balances out. Then why don't you go out on the town during one of his baby kicking adventures then. He'd be the one doing it but you would still be a great friend and a wonderful human being for tagging along. If your reaction to seeing a human being punch another in the back of the head while they walk away is "So....what you wanna do tomorrow...I was thinking the mall." then yeah, you are basically the same as him. You are basically supporting it by your lack of action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Eyebrow is on fire Report post Posted June 2, 2003 Your best friend has a rage problem and obvioiusly will attack people he cares about. You are at risk of getting the back of your skull caved in because you beat him in Madden or something. Yet you still hang out with the fucker...right. It's possible, but I don't have enough of a background in psychology to decide whether your theory holds weight. He might ONLY beat women perhaps of a Freudian complex caused by his mom raping him or something. Also since you're not a qualified professional, I'm sure you won't mind if I toss your amateur opinion in the trash. Your friend can punch women, but thats ok because he has a rage problem(a MENTAL problem) but the girl is weak because of her MENTAL problem. Okay. Well you're raising a good point - both my woman-beating friend and his lady friend are both fucking gay. Two psychopathic peas in a pod, I guess they deserve eachother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Eyebrow is on fire Report post Posted June 2, 2003 Well then, with all due respect, you are just as much as a piece of crap as he is. Not true, I don't beat women and I love kittens. It all balances out. Then why don't you go out on the town during one of his baby kicking adventures then. He'd be the one doing it but you would still be a great friend and a wonderful human being for tagging along. If your reaction to seeing a human being punch another in the back of the head while they walk away is "So....what you wanna do tomorrow...I was thinking the mall." then yeah, you are basically the same as him. You are basically supporting it by your lack of action. First off, calm down. Second of all, I'm not sure of your point. If you're saying that I'm a woman beater because I've witnessed it and have done nothing to stop it - then you're wrong. I've never hit a woman and I never will. Please don't make that accusation again, it's offensive. And I would never hang out at the mall, paying 3000% retail for 3 dollar sweat shop pants is a good way to go broke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted June 2, 2003 Never called you a woman beater...siad you aren't any better than you're friend...who appears to be a piece of shit. And it is a message board...trust me, you never have to tell me to calm down. Unless the pattern in which my words appear seem a little high strung. Just talking here fella. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted June 2, 2003 Tom, does a fool who refuses to wear a mit and keeps burning their hands on the oven rack deserve it? Yes. Yes, they do, but now you're talking apples and oranges. A hot oven rack is a hot oven rack, and that's all it will ever be. People have the capacity for change, for compassion, for self-improvement. Those are the hopes that love and fear compel these women to hang onto. Are they vain hopes? Often, yes, they turn out to be. But they are hopes that people will hold dear. It doesn't make them stupid, or weak, or deserving of a beating; it makes them human. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted June 2, 2003 He might ONLY beat women perhaps of a Freudian complex caused by his mom raping him or something. Most men who beat their wives/girlfriends have negative impressions of women from their mothers (though rarely from something as traumatic as you described), as well as a pathological need to be correct. When they perceive that "correctness" being challenged, they lash out. It's called the "Right Man" syndrome in some circles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted June 2, 2003 If you're saying that I'm a woman beater because I've witnessed it and have done nothing to stop it - then you're wrong. On the contrary; Ripper would have been absolutely right if he had called you a "woman beater." By blaming the girl for your friend's actions, by watching his assault on her without comment and without action, without even reporting it to the police, and by your continued association with him you are ipso facto endorsing his actions. And that does make you morally and legally culpable. It's called being an accessory after the fact. Look it up. I've never hit a woman and I never will. Please don't make that accusation again, it's offensive.The truth hurts, doesn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted June 2, 2003 What's the first thing a battered wife does when she gets out of the hospital? The dishes if she knows what's good for her. *silence* ... hmm... What do you tell a woman with two black eyes? Nothing she hasn't been told twice already. *silence* *taps microphone* Is this thing on? ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted June 2, 2003 Heard 'em. Boo! Sss! Get dis bum off de stage! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HungryJack Report post Posted June 2, 2003 I dunno; how bout this one: How many men does it take to fix a lightbulb? None, let the broad cook in the dark. eh? eh? I know. *leaves* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted June 2, 2003 How many women does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Who knows...they'd rather sit in the dark and complain about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted June 2, 2003 How many men does it take to screw in a light bulb? Just one. Men will screw anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HungryJack Report post Posted June 2, 2003 tremendous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted June 2, 2003 ... *she's getting the best of us* ... Let's hit her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Eyebrow is on fire Report post Posted June 2, 2003 It's called being an accessory after the fact. I suppose. I'd rather be an accessory than a snitch, however. Bottom line is I have no empathy for the woman whom he beat. She knew he was abusive, it happened before, and she kept running back for more. She knew the risks involved and he socked her. by your continued association with him you are ipso facto endorsing his actions I guess in the american legal system that's the case. She could have pressed charges, there were witnesses other than myself present but she didn't help herself. I guess the dick was so good that she didn't care about the black eyes which came with it. And if she doesn't care, neither do I. Am I saying that it's possible for me to disapprove of his actions while maintaining an outwardly apathetic attitude? Yes. I refuse to take the responsiblity of healing a dying society which doesn't want to be healed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted June 2, 2003 ... *she's getting the best of us* ... Let's hit her. How many blondes does it take to change a lightbulb? None. They can easily find a man pussywhipped enough to do it for them. How many smarks does it take to change a lightbulb? 100. 12 posters to complain to the mods that the lightbulb script isn't working, 3 to create separate topics in NHB, Site Feedback, and General Chat about it, 38 to add replies saying "+1," 1 more to create another topic in Site Feedback asking "Why was lightbulb banned?" and 17 to reply calling for the original poster to be "BANNED PLZ~!" while 5 others berate them for being immature and childish, 4 mods to pester Dames to give them lightbulb privileges, plus 20 poster-hours spent hitting F5 when they get the SQLightbulb error. Oh, and the lightbulb will be fixed as soon as we move to the new server. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lemon Drop Kid Report post Posted June 2, 2003 How many smarks does it take to change a lightbulb? 100. 12 posters to complain to the mods that the lightbulb script isn't working, 3 to create separate topics in NHB, Site Feedback, and General Chat about it, 38 to add replies saying "+1," 1 more to create another topic in Site Feedback asking "Why was lightbulb banned?" and 17 to reply calling for the original poster to be "BANNED PLZ~!" while 5 others berate them for being immature and childish, 4 mods to pester Dames to give them lightbulb privileges, plus 20 poster-hours spent hitting F5 when they get the SQLightbulb error. Oh, and the lightbulb will be fixed as soon as we move to the new server. ** 1/4 ... The psychology with the numbers adding up was a nice touch, but the screwjob ending really took away from the overall feel. Also, the "~!" spot is becoming cliche and overused. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted June 2, 2003 That's *** by my scale. Well done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted June 2, 2003 As the constant target of physical pain from my female friends (although I do deserve most of it with offbeat jokes that are meant to induce the want for violence), I can say this: I don't hit women. Block their strikes, move out of the way, or grab their arm and hold them in a position so that they can't hurt you. Don't hit them. Unless, of course, they're trained fighters, and have a full advantage. Then...smack 'em. And, Marney, I give it **3/4. A fun little joke, with some nice psychology, but nothing all too memorable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Eyebrow is on fire Report post Posted June 3, 2003 *1/2...had 1 or 2 funny zingers, but he came off sounding like Fierro. If you're going to make fun of smarks...THIS is how it's done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spicy McHaggis Report post Posted June 3, 2003 *1/2...had 1 or 2 funny zingers, but he came off sounding like Fierro. She. Marney's a woman, moron. I guess in the american legal system that's the case. You don't care about the moral implications? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Riots bloodlust Report post Posted June 4, 2003 I'd like to see someone here directly address the idea of a woman beating a child. Especially considering that while men are more often the ones to beat a child, women are more likely to kill a child, partially because they use weapons and they don't stop themselves in time. Another point: I may be mistaken, but at one point it was my understanding that reported cases of spousal abuse are about 50-50 against the man and against the woman. The men just won't talk about it because it is emasculating to say you were beaten by a woman. Because of that men are also less likely to report it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ChikoDemono Report post Posted June 6, 2003 Being raised in a house with three females and a grandpa, I have never been able to witness the glorious encounterings of spousal and men on women domestic abuse. Hearing about all the great generalizations and sociological facts and statistics, it makes me feel sad and neglected. Since I have been small all my life, I haven't really found a difference in strength between females and males. In essence, when either one of them hit me, it hurts, enough said. I'm not the type who hits (I prefer stretching and submission holds myself), but if a woman hits me, I would respond with a fujiwara armbar if she tried again. Anyway, back to my real point of this topic. I had a male friend who came to my house (which was basically his as well) one night all bloody and with a torn shirt. I asked him what happened and he said that two chicks scratched the living shit out of him. According to him, those two chicks threatened his sister, he stood up for her, and got his ass kicked. With all the cuts and loss of blood, I am guessing nobody stepped in to seperate the two parties until after a few minutes. So my question, should have my friend fought back to defend himself or should he have ran away from the fight itself? In the end, he told me he socked the "bitches" (his words not mine), though it didn't really stop them, until they were seperated and thrown out of the skating place they were at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted June 6, 2003 Of course he should have defended himself (and his sister). After all, they attacked him first after threatening a family member. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
