Men hitting women...

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

bah. my best friends step father raped her (got her pregnant too) and when i found out i threatened his life in front of the cops.

 

so of course when they found him two days unconcious missing all his teeth and broken limbs i was the first suspect and i ended up in juvy

[Guest SP-1]

That sucks man.

 

Luckily I've not had to beat someone's nostrils into their skull over something like that yet.

 

. . . yet.

[Guest Mole]

Well, I'll be in jail because the guy would deserve that.

[Guest Lemon Drop Kid]

Explain the morality?

 

YOU DON'T HIT WOMEN.  You just don't.  It's not right.

 

Now, if it's a lil' guy, I might not crush his face.  I might just kick him in the balls and dare him to touch another woman in such a manner.  You're not much of a man if you'll go about hitting women.  Sorry, but that's just the way it is.

No I didn't say a little guy was beating up a girl, I said a little guy was getting beaten up by a larger guy. Why is that not as bad as if it were a woman with a better chance to defend herself against the guy? You basically said "because it just is" which usually translates to "because society said so" or "because it sounds good for me to say so."

[Guest Cancer Marney]

Surprisingly, perhaps, I can respect that point of view even though I think it's silly. If there's cause, I don't care if someone hits a <gasp!> woman, but there's something vaguely appealling about the stupid, thick-as-mud "whut a man's gotta do" pseudochivalric garbage that would define even self-defense against anyone with tits as a sin worse than the Holocaust. That said, there's nothing appealling about the hysterical teary cockwaving and chest-thumping in this thread. Why? Because the people who really subscribe to that view also don't talk about it, and they certainly don't fantasize about it.

 

"Stomping a mudhole in his face..."

"I will beat that guy near death..."

 

It would be funnier if it all weren't so ridiculous and pathetic. Oh wow, you're writing graphic descriptions of violence casting yourself as a righteous avenger of weak abused women on an internet message board?! You MANLY STUD. Just sweep me off my feet now!

[Guest The Metal Maniac]

Just some stuff to toss out...

 

What if some woman was picking on a man half her size, for no reason? I mean, the fact that your average woman tends to be smaller then your average guy doesn't mean that there couldn't be a few women who, in size and power, totally outclass some men. So what would you do if you saw some woman taking a few swings at some guy half her size, for no apparant reason? I would think that the "protect the weak" mentality should have to come in play somewhere, especially if the guy happens to be getting creamed.

 

So what you you do? Stand back and let the defenseless get creamed, or strike back against a woman?

 

Another thing - to all those who said they'd crucify anyone they saw hitting a child - what if that was a woman as well? I mean, women are apparantly off-limits to all sorts of physicality, so does that mean that it's OK for them to beat their kids? What would you do in such a case?

[Guest MrRant]

You MANLY STUD. Just sweep me off my feet now!

<sweeps Marney off her feet while managing to keep his knuckles from dragging along the ground>

 

 

It's all about bustin caps and kickin ass.

 

Yeah baby.

[Guest SP-1]

LDK, if it's a little guy getting creamed by a big guy, it's dependent on the scenario. If he brought it upon himself, he deserves a couple of missing teeth. But there's a limit and if the big guy doesn't appear to be of a mind to stop, he'll have to be stopped. If the little guy doesn't deserve it at all, then someone should step in.

 

And Marney, I've used the term, "Crush his face" several times boardwide. It's a blatant exaggeration on my part and something of a running joke. That you don't subscribe to chivalry is fine, but I defend my few running gags, dammit.

[Guest JMA]

I just don't subscribe to the thought that having a vagina and two breasts makes you weaker. I don't think women are naturally weaker than men. Anyone who picks on someone weaker than themselves just for fun should be stopped. Period. I'm inclinded to agree with Lemon Drop Kid and Marney here. If someone was being picked on (male or female) I'd like to think I would stop it.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

I agree with your last sentence, and with your opinions in general, but women are naturally weaker than men. It's a simple physical fact. It takes longer for a woman to acquire muscle mass, and the limit on potential strength is also lower than a man's. Upper body strength is decreased not only by all that but also by the lower centre of gravity. Not to mention shorter height, lower weight, and smaller bone frames overall.

This part of the argument is biology, not opinion. Males are genetic freaks selected for being big, strong, aggressive, and pussywhipped.

[Guest JMA]

I agree with your last sentence, and with your opinions in general, but women are naturally weaker than men. It's a simple physical fact. It takes longer for a woman to acquire muscle mass, and the limit on potential strength is also lower than a man's. Upper body strength is decreased not only by all that but also by the lower centre of gravity. Not to mention shorter height, lower weight, and smaller bone frames overall.

This part of the argument is biology, not opinion. Males are genetic freaks selected for being big, strong, aggressive, and pussywhipped.

Hm. That does make sense. I should probably brush up on my biology...

[Guest Flyboy]

People should not be hitting other people, period. Unless it's war or self-defense. Oh, and if that means that some woman (say Chyna) is beating the hell out of a helpless man, I say by all means knock her the fuck out. Same goes for vice versa. If one is dumb enough to be in a relationship/situation that has violence and chooses to STAY in that situation... then you deserve to wear those sunglasses. After the first or second time if you're not out of that situation... what the fuck are you thinking? Do I agree with the guy for hitting the woman? Hell-fucking-no? Do the woman deserve to an extent due to her stupidity? Maybe. My grandmother was nearly killed by the shit my grandfather use to do to her before I was ever thought of and I say that my grandmother was stupid for not getting out of that environment.

 

Guys shouldn't be hitting women. Guys shouldn't be hitting guys (unless boxing counts). Women shouldn't be hitting guys. Women shouldn't be hitting women (unless boxing counts).

 

Males are genetic freaks selected for being big, strong, aggressive, and pussywhipped.

 

Who's the pussywhipped one in your marriage?

[Guest Vyce]

If a man hits a woman in my presence, he fucking better be able to run for his life.

 

And if he DARES, DARES to hit a child, I'm not sure that I'd be able to stop myself.

Pretty much my feelings exactly.

 

See, now I can't speak for anyone else, but with me (this is referring to Marney's comments) I have personal experience with men abusing women. Far too much experience.

 

I'll make this somewhat personal: my sister, years ago (over a decade) was married to a man who would literally beat the shit out of her for whatever reason he felt like. This went on for MONTHS before my family found out (she was in fear of her life to tell anyone about it - even her family). When my father found out, it was all my mother could do to stop him from getting a gun and participating in a little vigilante justice.

 

So, with me, it's nothing chilvaristic. It's sort of two-fold: I don't like watching stronger people abusing weaker people, and due to a lot of painful personal experience, I have the strong physical urge to inflict grievous injury to anyone who believes that smacking around women is a good way to pass the time.

 

Maybe that gets into a whole 'continuing the cycle of violence' thing, but frankly, I don't care. It would feel really, REALLY good to beat the shit out of a person like that.

 

I would not say that it's NEVER appropriate for a man to hit a woman - it may be appropriate if it's necessary to save his own life. If she comes at you with a knife, okay, I can see it happening. But not for anything short of that.

[Guest IDrinkRatsMilk]

I'd say a man can hit a woman in self defense. I generally agree with the rule the police use (in theory), do what you have to do to nuetralize the situation and no more. Most times if a woman is attacking a man, he can stop her without knocking her out.

Circumstances come into play somewhat. If a woman is hitting a guy, smacking him over and over, and she gets him in the eye or something and he slaps her one back, I can understand that. Not saying it's ok (both parties would be wrong in that scenario), but that's worlds apart from a guy beating on a woman to intimidate and keep a psychological hold on her.

[Guest BDC]

Circumstances are all over the place. But when it comes right down to it, my gut says that if a man strikes a woman, if a big woman strikes a man, a big man strikes a small man or whatever, I'm going to do something, and not always cold-cock him outright.

 

However, let's think circumstances again. I do a ministry that goes out on the drinking night on this campus. If I catch some drunk guy beating on a girl, he's going to meet me. I probably wouldn't even hit him to start with. "Is that the kind of man you are? You beat up women?"

 

Of course, that might lead to a self-defense thing... I'm no advocate of violence first. I may be trained to fight, but I don't use it straightaway. That just shows a lack of intelligence or resourcefulness.

 

Screwed up? I think it's the right thing to do.

[Guest HungryJack]

One question :

 

When we are referring to hitting children ,are we referring to smacking your kid cuz he just cussed in public, or are we talking, "hey I feel like hitting someone ; I'ma go hit my kid" ?

 

because I firmly believe if your kid is acting like a little bitch, smacking him is probably for the best. It's sad to see that parents these days are afraid to discipline their kids for fear of some fuckoff threatening to kick their asses on a message board.

 

 

Conversely, if the parent in question hits their kid because it gets them off ,or whateevr else, without valid reason to hit the child, then yea, that IS pretty low, but I mean, like many kids I know, I used to take a beating once in a while, and I almost always deserved it.

 

Kids today are so cocky because they DON"T get hit at home, so they walk around thinking no-one else would dare hit them, no matter how mouthy they wanna be.

 

 

And as for women, if a women hits me in a manner other than joking, that is to say if she's being hostile, I'd hit her. Fuck that shit. Why let someone push you around?

[Guest Mindless_Aggression]

If a woman is attacking me for no good reason I willl....pie face the fuck out of her. Maybe wrist grabbing with slight twists. But no, I'd never ball up my fist and go for a knockout or anything. Unless there were people watching. Then i'd t-bone that bitch propah.

 

Not really.

[Guest Lemon Drop Kid]

If a woman were trying to punch me I'd put her in the tazzmission baybaaay!!! With the leg-wraparound thing so that she couldn't kick me in the nards.

 

I remember a similar argument here where the guy I was arguing with was like "Oh what kind of a man are you if you can't take a punch from a woman?"

 

...Yeah. Silly me. Their hands don't even have bones!

 

Seriously, though. The only time I want to see a man hit a woman is when that man is Kid Kash... bonngggg!

[Guest TheMadmanGreg]

A good rule of thumb here is to stop and think "Am I being threatened enough to hit this girl?" Then, you automatically answer no, beacuse if you were being threatened enough to hit a girl, it would be so freakin obvious that you wouldn't need to ask yourself a question. Example: a girl pulls a knife and tries to stab you. Chances are you'll at least try to wrestle the knife away without thinking "I hope this is a socially acceptable use of physical force against a woman."

[Guest Goodear]

Just as an aside, is it me or do women lately just love to 'friendly' punch guys in the shoulder as hard as they can for fun?

[Guest mach7]

Woman want equal rights which they deserve. Women are people just like men, they deserve everything men have. They should be paid the same, treated the same, etc.

I didn't know that getting punched in the face was a right...

[Guest Lemon Drop Kid]

Woman want equal rights which they deserve. Women are people just like men, they deserve everything men have. They should be paid the same, treated the same, etc.

I didn't know that getting punched in the face was a right...

Not getting punched in the face is a right. If women want equal (as opposed to greater) rights, then that means they have no more or less right to not get punched in the face. That said, I'm all for both genders having freedom from face-punching. There should be a new coalition or something. Men and Women Against Punching In the Face, or MAWAPIF.

[Guest Ripper]

But assaulting a woman carries no more of a sentence than assaulting a man...you just get more ass raping in prison when you are there for beating a woman to death than you do for beating a man to death. It isn't really about equality since both carry the same penalty. You are frowned down upon more in society. I am more for the no face pucnhcing because they lead to prison...and ass rape.

 

MAWAPIFAAR member for life.

[Guest My Eyebrow is on fire]

I remember when my best friend punched his girl really really hard in the back of her skull while she was walking away from him. There was a payphone down the street with plenty of witnesses, but the dumb bitch was stupid enough to forgive him. First time wasn't her fault, and she had the power to punish him. But, since most women usually let their dumbass emotions cloud their judgement - she chose to "forgive" him. Any further beatings she receives from here on out, she deserves them.

[Guest DrTom]

Any further beatings she receives from here on out, she deserves them.

Only scummy people "deserve" to get a beating.

[Guest My Eyebrow is on fire]

Tom, does a fool who refuses to wear a mit and keeps burning their hands on the oven rack deserve it? Yes.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

For what it's worth, I like it when women hit me, because it never hurts, unless they're vile enough to go for an undefended sack, which I've thankfully never had happen intentionally like that. Also, it craves a primal need for attention, interaction, and physical contact.

 

Unless she's swinging full-tilt boogie out of anger, in which case I'd probably just block the shots until she tired out, then toss her on the ground. In theory anyway.

 

I've never had a girl be stupid enough to intentionally deck me out of anger, I might kick her ass instead, hard to say.

[Guest Spicy McHaggis]

You're best friends with some dude that punches girls in the back of the head?

[Guest Ripper]

You can't say that a woman that stays with a abusive man deserves what she gets. It's easy to label her as stupid and weak, but there are deep psychological problems that she has to overcome to leave a person like that.

 

And I can say with a certainty that if any one of my friends punched a girl in the back of the head he would take a shit kicking right then and there. And that isn't some testostorone talk, just the level of anger in me that would be envolved and the fact that people would assume that I am like this piece of shit.

 

Thing is though, if you ever see a guy beating on his girl and you go over and push him away 9-10 times he will talk alot of shit to you but won't do a thing. I can say this from experience, most of the time, they know that they can beat the woman without worry but with a guy the chance they might lose is there and they are exposed as the cowards that they are.

[Guest My Eyebrow is on fire]

Yeah, he also has a 170+ IQ. He just has a rage problem...but since I'm not a woman, I don't care. I suppose that's callous and "sociopathic." Maybe it would be different if I cared about the person he hit, but I don't.