Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 4, 2003 I just realize there was an connection between this Bad Blood and the other one... The BIRTH of The Cell and The DEATH of the Cell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Keep the Kane name and mask, forget the gimmick. Nobody wants a new Taker--let him actually attempt to wrestle well. The guy barely looks taller than Austin without the lifts in his boots, so stop treating him like a full-fledged hoss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Funny thing to note... Kane is about the same age as Taker in REAL life...yet less people complain about Kane staying in the ring compared to Taker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 4, 2003 That's because Kane hasn't played Politics and isn't taking up space... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Keep the Kane name and mask, forget the gimmick. That's exactly what's wrong with him now. They forgot the gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Enough of this glorification of the old Kane. The "old" Kane was wrestle crap material. His character was Dungeon of Doom bad. I mean, give me a fucking break. Did the writers expect us to believe that Kane was the burned, presumed dead brother of the Undertaker? No, the Kane gimmick has always been bad. It's a credit to Glen Jacobs that he has somehow made it work. But I don't want a return to the days of Kane summoning lighting and creating fire with his mind. Because that was crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted June 4, 2003 JMA: Amen. Chris: Kane isn't a slow, boring, plodding, politicking sack of shit with extremely boring offense who cuts the worst, most freakin' dull promos in the entire company. He's just a kinda-slugging, plodding guy with a lame moveset and and a stupid outfit/gimmick who doesn't speak, who could be better if he was motivated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2003 I say don't bring back the pyro summoning or lightning summoning...but DO bring back the monster part of Kane. Silent assassain type Kane...works better than S&M Kane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted June 4, 2003 I say don't bring back the pyro summoning or lightning summoning...but DO bring back the monster part of Kane. Silent assassain type Kane...works better than S&M Kane. EXACTLY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted June 4, 2003 I say don't bring back the pyro summoning or lightning summoning...but DO bring back the monster part of Kane. Silent assassain type Kane...works better than S&M Kane. Who wants another Monster Hoss Heel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Who wants a Necrophilac Pot Smoking Happy 7' foot S&M Freak? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted June 4, 2003 I say don't bring back the pyro summoning or lightning summoning...but DO bring back the monster part of Kane. Silent assassain type Kane...works better than S&M Kane. Who wants another Monster Hoss Heel? A huge heel is needed on Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 4, 2003 The Gimmick is 5 1/2 years old BTW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Who wants a Necrophilac Pot Smoking Happy 7' foot S&M Freak? I don't want that either, although you should realize that he doesn't look anywhere near seven-foot, and they completely forgot all that Katie Vick crap afterwards. So then Kane mentioned in promos something about torturing animals in his basement and so forth, or...something worse. So he's a 6'5" disgruntled pot-smoking S&M-and-beastiality freak. Besides, HHH is the only dominating heel on Raw, remember? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted June 4, 2003 The Gimmick is 5 1/2 years old BTW. How old is Hulkamania? Texas Rattlesnake? Heartbreak Kid? Nature Boy? WWE is full of old gimmicks. The "Kane" gimmick may be five years old, but I still like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Who wants a Necrophilac Pot Smoking Happy 7' foot S&M Freak? I didn't know Kane smoked pot...Good for Rob to be nice enough to share his stash. ANYWAYS, I wouldn't mind for Kane to be a monster heel as long as he and RVD are not partners anymore. RVD is so not a tag wrestler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 4, 2003 And how many of those currently make money? How many are in anything meaningful right now? Old = Bad New = Good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Austin doesn't make money? I would like to challenge that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Who wants a Necrophilac Pot Smoking Happy 7' foot S&M Freak? I didn't know Kane smoked pot...Good for Rob to be nice enough to share his stash. ANYWAYS, I wouldn't mind for Kane to be a monster heel as long as he and RVD are not partners anymore. RVD is so not a tag wrestler. You forgetting about his ECW time with Sabu? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Who wants a Necrophilac Pot Smoking Happy 7' foot S&M Freak? I didn't know Kane smoked pot...Good for Rob to be nice enough to share his stash. ANYWAYS, I wouldn't mind for Kane to be a monster heel as long as he and RVD are not partners anymore. RVD is so not a tag wrestler. You forgetting about his ECW time with Sabu? But wasn't he still a singles competitor though? He was hardly a full-fledged tag wrestler like he is considered now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted June 4, 2003 I say Glen should ditch the whole "Kane" gimmick. I don't think he should use one of his past gimmicks, though. Give him something new to work with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooseCannon25 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Wait a minute isnt Kane like 31 0r 32 years old now? He can't be around the same age as Taker.......If so i then i been way off about his age since he was friggin Isaac Yankem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 4, 2003 How in gods name does Austin make money? He doesn't even wrestle. He isn't at house shows. The ratings are still falling. You think the redneck triathelon will improve the buyrate for Bad Blood? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Merchandise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Merchandise. Jeff Hardy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Yeah...Jeff Hardy made money for WWE too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mickberna Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Kane needs to lose the mask and evolve his character. Use some makeup to make him look like he has a burnt face or something (with one colored contact lens for the "half-burnt effect), but he MUST move past the mask. He MUST develop his character. If he doesn't start doing something new, his character will be even more dead than it already is. Everyone complained when Taker debuted his new "Bikertaker" look, but it's worked pretty well for him. I say let Kane move on, and ditch the old costumes and gimmick. Otherwise bury the damn guy and release him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Which is 1000th of what it used to be and is probably costing the company more than it makes due to the fact that they spend so much time promoting Austin rather than promoting a talent with more room for potential and growth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NoCalMike Report post Posted June 4, 2003 As long as Kane's storyline leads him to parting ways with RVD, I am ok with it. RVD needs to start being elevated and getting out of the tag team is the first step. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted June 4, 2003 "Everyone complained when Taker debuted his new "Bikertaker" look, but it's worked pretty well for him." I liked your post until this part. Bikertaker STILL sucks a big fat cock, and still doesn't draw jack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
