A-Train Is Not Crap

[Guest Kid Kablam]

You know, now that I look at it, A-Train isn't half bad. Let's put it this way, if he busts out a moonsault, I'm marking out. Anyway, I'm definitely getting used to Albert he's doesn't offend me anymore, and if he continues to display the swank moveset and create new for himself, I'll start to genuinely like the guy. I like that he's trying to improve. Hard work should be rewarded. Instead, they let that POS Jones hobnob with the Undertaker, as though he deserved that type of exposure. O, and Thunder Rising!!! you made some very good points, but please cut down on the smilies

[Guest TheGame2705]

Much of the hate isn't so much for his in-ring ability, but due to the fact the WWE deems it neccessary to try and shove him down our throats time and time again. He's gotten push after push despite the fact he's shown few signs of getting over

Oh that push where he and the cripple would pierce people? That push where he was still the same guy but a lackey to Big Boss Man? That push where he was slightly different but this time with Test? The push he got when he was stuck as the enforcer to Pac and Credible and handed a belt with no buildup? The push he's getting now where the only person he's beaten of any importance is Rey Jr. but he's lost to Taker, Brock, Benoit 3 TIMES, etc.

 

I fail to see where Train was given a push and I fail to see how he was supposed to get over. The only time he did get over was when fans were cheering for Train to do the worm with Scotty but they for whatever reason broke up the team. You can't even say it was all Scotty because you can see people cheering for Albert.

 

The fact that the only good match he's had was with Chris Benoit doesn't say much for him, if it takes the very best in the WWE to get him into decent match territory you aren't very good.

 

The match was dare I say good and he also had some good matches with Kane when he was given the IC title. I don't think any Train fan will argue that he's a master worker.

 

A-Train gets a bigger push than his talent deserves. He has negative charisma, and his matches are in the watchable territory only when his opponent is totally busting ass...nothing to do with him.

Brock got the biggest push in the world and his talent was nowhere deserving of that. How many times has Hardy main evented Smackdown and he's still the same old Matt wrestling-wise? RVD was in a world title match four months in simply because of how over he was not because of how good he can flip and flop. Jericho got his first push in the middle of his crapdom in 2000 and 2001. So I think there are far more times where someone who was less talented got a push. Oh yeah and then there's the fact Train hasn't ever gotten a push...

 

not be tired two minutes into the match

-develop some charisma

-learn to sell besides yelling AHH and taking a step backwards

-learn how to work a match better so its not clothesline, powerbomb, resthold for 5 minutes, repeat

I've neglected to see when Train blows up in the ring. Maybe I'll have to go analyze but I haven't seen it. Oh yes that charisma is so very important. Maybe he should follow some role models of charisma.

"It's cool man, whatever"

"...Prove me wrong..."

"I'm gonna beat yo punk ass (repeat 7 more times because it's so good)"

-I'll say myself that Train needs to work on his selling.

-I've never seen a Train match follow this formula.

 

Yeah, but I'm not as bad in the ring as Nash, Steiner or Test.

Why don't you pay a visit to Vince and tell him to give you a match so you can outwork those three.

 

My Own Thoughts

People right now hate Train because of his look. It's pretty ironic the fans hate his look when I've seen some worse men and WOMEN in the crowd. If look matters, I say can Benoit, Savage, Lita, and Rhyno. I mean what good can a guy missing some teeth, a guy with grody hair, a lady with a huge tattoo on her arm, and a short guy with a scrunched up face do?

As far as his matches go. Train actually switches up the moveset when he can. He doesn't have as much variety as say Christian when it comes to in-ring manuevers but you usually see a different move each time. Watch out Nova.

 

Train right now is certainly no master worker but you can see he's really eager and I wouldn't be surprised if Benoit wanted those three matches to help Train learn more.

 

Train knows psychology. Something Kurt Angle, RVD, and Booker T have yet to show they know how to do. Train's finisher is a back move, he works the back all match.

 

All in all, Train isn't a world class worker but he's atleast eager, isn't injury prone, and he's tough. You have to give a guy credit who can escape injury when he's dropped right on his head with force.

[Guest Ray]

I do not like A-Train because he squashes the cruiserweights

 

Yes, that's ENTIRELY his fault.

 

Not Vince McMahon's fault, not the writer's or the booker's fault, it's all A-Train's fault.

 

 

 

 

 

Hating A-Train because Vince is a moron and likes to put a hoss over a crusierweight isn't right.

[Murmuring Beast 0]

I think then that we all agree that A-Train is the best wrestler on Smackdown and, indeed, the World.

[Guest Thunder Rising!!!]

I think then that we all agree that A-Train is the best wrestler on Smackdown and, indeed, the World.

Very funny...

 

Wow! I didn't know this post would garner as much positive comments as this from TSM??? I even believe he is getting much more praise from you guys then he deserves. Just to add on, A-Train is is fine as mid-carder but nothing more. He defintely has to work more on his charisma, he needs a new character.

 

Any ideas what character would finally get him over???

 

Anyway you guys have not answered my question on who is the best hoss that have ever been seen in the business.

[Guest Vyce]

Is every hoss who gets a push no matter how small gonna be hated by the IWC for the rest of enternity?

 

He's solid, good size, decent look, no big problems in the ring other than how he's booked, bumps his ass off, and works hard.

 

I find him more useful then Lance Storm.

That one hurt. It really did.

 

I'm no fan of A-Train. I don't necessarily hate him, but I sort of view him as a joke, and I believe there are quite a few other, far more talented workers out there (hell, far more talented hosses!) that deserve his spot more than he does. The nicest thing I can say about him is that he can be carried to DECENT matches (although it takes a GOD like Benoit to do that), isn't TOO offensive as far as hosses go, and has a unique look which works for him (although, at the least, he should go with long pants or tights instead of those little black briefs ).

 

HOWEVER, and I will fight any of you on this:

 

SEAN O'HAIRE > A-Train.

 

You know it. Anyone who disagrees is either a liar or in denial.

[Guest Army Eye]

How is he mroe useful than Lance Storm? Storm can cut a promo. Storm can draw heat. Storm's matches with RVD are better than any match Albert has ever done, and that's friggin' RVD. And Albert does not have a good 'look', he is fat, silly looking, and hairy. He has probably the worst look of any wrestler.

[Guest KJ Brackish]

I thought Vader was a damn good wrestler from what I saw of him (Which was very little indeed.) He wrestled pretty good, better than some people that wrestle today. As for A-Train....I simply have no comment on him.

 

DFA

[ChrisMWaters 0]

I thought Vader was a damn good wrestler from what I saw of him (Which was very little indeed.) He wrestled pretty good, better than some people that wrestle today. As for A-Train....I simply have no comment on him.

 

DFA

....for some reason, that mention of Vader right there made me think of WWE trying to re-package A-Train as their new version of A-Train...similar to how many people thought they were trying to make Lesnar their version of Goldberg before.

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

If they give Albert the Vader mask with the steam shooting out of it, I will forever be a fan of his. He also needs to start doing that Vader Time splash or whatever his finisher was in order to get my markdom.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

If they give Albert the Vader mask with the steam shooting out of it, I will forever be a fan of his. He also needs to start doing that Vader Time splash or whatever his finisher was in order to get my markdom.

Hehehe....now that I think about it...Albert as Vader 2.0 WOULD be funny.

 

Him doing the Vader Bomb and coming out with the Vader Steam Mask WOULD be classic too.

[Guest KJ Brackish]

If they give Albert the Vader mask with the steam shooting out of it, I will forever be a fan of his. He also needs to start doing that Vader Time splash or whatever his finisher was in order to get my markdom.

Hehehe....now that I think about it...Albert as Vader 2.0 WOULD be funny.

 

Him doing the Vader Bomb and coming out with the Vader Steam Mask WOULD be classic too.

I usually never mark out, but if it was something like this, I certainly would! It would make my year!

 

DFA

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

IT'S TIME! IT'S TIME! IT'S ALBERT TIME! (GRUNT~!)

 

That has money all over it. I don't know how they'd keep him heel though, the fans would enjoy laughing at/admiring the outfit and stuff.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

IT'S TIME! IT'S TIME! IT'S ALBERT TIME! (GRUNT~!)

 

That has money all over it. I don't know how they'd keep him heel though, the fans would enjoy laughing at/admiring the outfit and stuff.

Have him do all the things that Vader did to make himself a monster heel in WCW?

 

...well, minus the Cheetum shit, that is.

 

Though, that leaves the question who would be the Sting to Albert's Vader?

[Guest KJ Brackish]

Sorta reminds me of the Showster gimmick that the Big Show had. I for one actually enjoyed him dressing up each week as someone different. What I really wonder though, is what did Hulk Hogan think of him shooting off of his character?

 

DFA

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Sorta reminds me of the Showster gimmick that the Big Show had. I for one actually enjoyed him dressing up each week as someone different. What I really wonder though, is what did Hulk Hogan think of him shooting off of his character?

I think that Hogan didn't mind, as Hogan and Big Show are kinda friends.

 

...though, it was Hogan that told Big Show back when he was The Giant he needed to bulk up...

[Murmuring Beast 0]

Storm can cut a promo. Storm can draw heat. Storm's matches with RVD are better than any match Albert has ever done, and that's friggin' RVD. And Albert does not have a good 'look', he is fat, silly looking, and hairy. He has probably the worst look of any wrestler.

 

Na, Storm is boring, and you know it. Plus Albert's now in my sig.

[Guest it-lenny]

Much of the hate isn't so much for his in-ring ability, but due to the fact the WWE deems it neccessary to try and shove him down our throats time and time again. He's gotten push after push despite the fact he's shown few signs of getting over, other than cheap heat like 'Shave Your Back' chants, while people who are genuinely over get buried and misused in favor of Big Bully Hoss Push #23523456.

I agree 100%.....

[Guest Ghettoman]

Storm can cut a promo. Storm can draw heat. Storm's matches with RVD are better than any match Albert has ever done, and that's friggin' RVD. And Albert does not have a good 'look', he is fat, silly looking, and hairy. He has probably the worst look of any wrestler.

 

Can cut a promo? What, when led by Austin and fueled by comedy?...."Let me be serious for a minute"?. Lance can cut a promo about as well as Red can get smart, his mic work has never touched anything considered upper midcard, Atrain's tone is enough for him, considering he's had no problems with tone or delivery you have no case there.

 

Can draw heat? Where, when, I remember Regal doing all the heel work when they tagged, was the goldberg segment just made by Storms masterful heelish-selling? What are you on? Albert's always over as a heel when working with SD babyfaces, Lance doesn't even work a good heel routine.

 

Ugh, no, no his matches with RVD weren't better than anything A-trains done, especially if were talking about WWE matches, which we would have to be since we can only judge on an equal scale.. Sorry. I'll take his matches with Benoit which although shorter were much smarter, smart enough to make up for the time, his matches with Brock were fun, and hell he's even had total clash matches with Rey that were enjoyable. Lance and RVD just try and fake some technical spots until they get near something finish worthy. Blah.

 

Alberts not fat, he's in better shape than me, and probably(hell he's gotta be) you. He's not even overweight if you want to get technical, just your average hoss expect a little more athletic and round shaped. Silly looking? Whats silly looking about him, his back hair? If you can't take your focus off a mans backhair while watching wrestling, then your the problem, not his lack of a razor. He's got a mean face, great hoss look.

 

Worst look of any wrestler? Hell he's gotta a much better look than Storm, Storm's got nothing going for him, at all. Yeah why can't people get behind a drone like canadian who you can't tell apart from half the Smackdown roster? I wonder....

 

 

Maybe during his ECW days when he had the advantage of being a small fish with big fish booking yeah, but now on an even playing field, thats just laughable.

[Murmuring Beast 0]

This thread must not die...

[Guest nikowwf]

I cannot think of one Albert moment or match that I have ever saw and said, WOW, I'd like to see that again. Not one time ever...and i've been watching since he was Prince Albert back with Droz.

 

For that reason, I think maybe he does sucketh massively.

 

niko

[Murmuring Beast 0]

I can say the same about Lance Storm.

[Guest nikowwf]

Lance Storm & Justin Credible had some fun matches in ECW, and he had some good matches with Edge for the IC title too.

 

If Lance Storm was allowed to go ten minutes in the main event of a show like A-Train was, it would be much better.

 

niko

[Murmuring Beast 0]

But I wouldn't watch it again. His watch with Edge at Summerslam is over-rated. His matches on Raw are so generic - I can't distinguish them.

[Guest Lemon Drop Kid]

Albert is good, as 350 pound hosses go.

 

 

 

 

He sucks.

 

The missile dropkick he did to the Big Show a few years ago was cool looking though. And the Baldo Bomb is a good move. Just, to be darwinistic here, anyone with his body type, they have to be really freaking special for me to enjoy their matches, because I just don't get much excitement over "I big guy I throw you" type stuff. Obviously, the crowds have agreed with me.

 

It would, however, rule if he dressed up as Vader and wrestled Cena dressed up as Sting.

[Guest Kid Kablam]

But I wouldn't watch it again. His watch with Edge at Summerslam is over-rated. His matches on Raw are so generic - I can't distinguish them.

Yeah, but pretty much all of Raw's matches are bland affairs that you can't distinguish between

[Murmuring Beast 0]

Overall, Storm isn't really much better than Albert.

[Guest Eric the Eagle]

Hey, Albert's all right with me. He's got an all right moveset, his big moves are well executed and look like they hurt, and he's willing to sell for smaller guys. He's been in the occasional horrible match, yes, as well as lots of horrible stories, but I've got nothing against the wrestler. He DESPERATELY needs different ring gear, as well as new music, but as a midcard heel he'll always be all right.

 

Saying he's better on pychology than Kurt Angle, now that's something else, though.

[Guest buffybeast]

There's nothing wrong with A-train. I like his look and think he's sexy.

 

He's a decent midcard wrestler who works hard.

[Murmuring Beast 0]

I was wondering how long it would take Buffy to get involved. I'm disappointed we had to wait so long.