Jason McCartney

[Guest alkeiper]

I remember reading at wwe.com that former ECW wrestler Chilly Willy was over there in Iraq- I hope he made it out okay.

 

I hope he dropped the hometown gimmick before he left.

[Guest the 1inch punch]

Hey! Everywhere is home for Chilly Willy!!!

 

Man i loved that guy

[Guest Grand Slam]

This is the meanest, nastiest and most cold-hearted thread I have ever read outside the No Holds Barred section.

 

Your boy McCartney is courageous and his tribute to overcoming death and fear should be commended.

 

Tillman also did something courageous and should be commended.

 

Don't bring either achievement down by insisting one is better than the other and calling each other names.

[Guest the 1inch punch]

I didnt bring anyone else up, i merely reacted to Nanks trying to force this gimp down our throats.

 

 

However, while i'm on the subject of this Tillman guy, he

 

-gave up a job to go to WAR

 

while Mc Cartney

-Came off an injured list early to milk publicity and then retired, thus fucking his team over. What a great guy

[Guest Grand Slam]

I try not to say stuff like this very often, as I don't represent myself of the SWF well when I do but...

 

1inch Punch, you are a dick. I can't believe the lack of compassion and imagination in your response. My God! I am not denying that what Tillman did was courageous and that he gave up something most people spend their lives wanting to do what he thought was right. In my book, he seems like a responsible American, willing to put his life on the lines for what he believes. I wish I were as brave as he.

 

But I also wish I were as brave as the McCartney fellow. He nearly dies in a terrorist action, then works his ass off to come back for one more game because he loves what he does and you call him a gimp? Christ!!

 

I am actually thankful to Nanks for posting this. It was inspirational and I enjoyed reading it. The only point I was trying to make was that you were all acting like children and arguing for the sake of being difficult instead of just saying nothing.

 

Sometimes the level of cynicism, nagativism and apathy towards other human beings on this board is deplorable and depressing. I am probably older than most of the rest of you and I am supposed to be the one jaded and beaten down by time. It is sad really...

[Guest the 1inch punch]

1inch Punch, you are a dick.

Well thats constructive.

 

 

Put it this way;

 

Bob Barron said it himself, Nanks' "OMG GOD, you dont think this guy is the new Messiah, BAN PLEAZ" attitude sickens me.

 

I dont think this guy is special, but i think guys like this Tillman guy and Chilly Willy are important, DEAL WITH IT!

[Guest Nanks]

I overreacted by putting down Tillman's acts. I was momentarily enraged at the stereotypical American reaction that, "our guy did something better", I was wrong to react that way. That is a very brave and honourable thing to do. I know I wouldn't have the guts to enlist in armed services and go to war. Speaking of overreactions, Barron..... As for the point that McCartney only got coverage on the station designed for 4% of the population, that's the point I'm making, if you don't think what he did is amazing then you are beyond impossible to impress. Someone brought up the point that he was a bad bloke for playing only one game and retiring, do you have any idea how inspiring that was for his teamates?? They all knew his intentions and couldn't have supported him more, and rightly so. Calling him a "gimp" is disgusting and below disrespectful. I know I called Tillman a "roid monkey" but I now retract that statement after looking at it again.

[Guest the 1inch punch]

Someone brought up the point that he was a bad bloke for playing only one game and retiring, do you have any idea how inspiring that was for his teamates??

Frankly I'd be pissed off if i was one of his teammates, and i went out there, had a great game but was overshadowed by this guy and his "ok, everyone pay attention to me, ive decided to retire because i'm so great" act.

 

 

And what about whoever he replaced, the guy who played when McCartney was out. How would he feel about been dropped. What if it was a young kid just breaking into them team

[Guest Grand Slam]

Now I am convinced that you are arguing about this because you love arguing. Nothing constructive will ever come of this thread, no real conversation can take place and it is no longer worth my time...

 

I'm sorry I ever got involved in the first place. I should have known.

[Guest nl5xsk1]

Someone brought up the point that he was a bad bloke for playing only one game and retiring, do you have any idea how inspiring that was for his teamates??

Frankly I'd be pissed off if i was one of his teammates, and i went out there, had a great game but was overshadowed by this guy and his "ok, everyone pay attention to me, ive decided to retire because i'm so great" act.

 

 

And what about whoever he replaced, the guy who played when McCartney was out. How would he feel about been dropped. What if it was a young kid just breaking into them team

You shouldn't be pissed that your "great game" was overshadowed by this guy coming back from near-death and getting a chance to play one last game. If nothing else, it would make your game more memorable. And it sounds like your perspectives are kind of fucked up. Keep in mind that life is more important than sports stats.

 

And in terms of the young kid who was dropped so this guy could play. It's one game, settle down. It's not like he was cut from the roster or sent to some ass-end-of-nowhere minor league to play. So he sat on the bench for a memorable, heart warming occasion. Not the end of the world, methinks.

[Guest Nanks]

McCartney did nothing of the sort. He didn't grandstand what he was doing, and the players who played well were given due credit. As it played out it was very much a team victory with no standouts, so nobody was denied a chance in spotlight. McCartney took his place in the team via injury. I might add to that the fact that McCartney retiring made room for a young up and coming player to be promoted from the rookie list to the senior list.

[Guest nl5xsk1]

Nanks, I apologize on behalf of Americans who aren't just looking to pick a fight. It's admirable that you retracted your "roid" comment, and it sucks that other people continue to provoke.

 

Good luck to this guy McCartney in his future endeavors ... I'm sure he'll make plenty of scratch in appearances and book deals and whatnot.

[Guest the 1inch punch]

Now I am convinced that you are arguing about this because you love arguing. Nothing constructive will ever come of this thread, no real conversation can take place and it is no longer worth my time...

 

I'm sorry I ever got involved in the first place. I should have known.

I'm actually doin this because i'm a journalism student and this type of story has no merit whatsoever and i'm sick of people like Nanks forcing it down my throats.

 

 

I actually say this git on the news today. for a guy who doesnt want publicity he sure gets his mug on my tv a lot. He'll be on the talk show circuit next.

[Guest the 1inch punch]

Good luck to this guy McCartney in his future endeavors ... I'm sure he'll make plenty of scratch in appearances and book deals and whatnot.

Well DUH

[Guest Lightning Flik]

I'm actually doin this because i'm a journalism student and this type of story has no merit whatsoever and i'm sick of people like Nanks forcing it down my throats.

I'd rather have heard this inspiring story. I haven't heard or seen anything about this and frankly stories like these should be covered more often, no matter where they occur. It's a story of triumph against all odds and frankly, I'm tired of all the terrorism crap we see on tvs these days. Stories like these inspire others to be able to feel that anyone can become of something bigger and larger on a whole if they keep a positive outlook.

 

You say these stories have no merit? I can assure you then, your priorities are slightly off. As neither of Tillman's or McCartney's story is "better" than one or the other. Both men did things that are remarkable in their own rights. Each has a merit to it and each has stuff that people can respect about these individuals.

 

You continually say that "he gave up a multimillion dollar contract to go serve the army and defend your (I'm Canadian afterall) country" and even though I know nothing about it, is an admirable feet. I doubt you or many others, which include myself, would probably not be able to take do what Tillman did. For that, I have to give him my respect for doing that. Yet, in the same breath, you continue to bring up the fact that this is much more special than a man coming back from near death circumstances and manages to get himself in shape for one last day in his own profession that has been his life.

 

How is it that you can compare the two? You seem to think that you can compare them and can value one higher than the other. This isn't so. The strength of what a person "heroicly" does can not be measured just because "oh he turned down a multimilliondallor contract" or "if this was any other American, it'd be all over the world", but rather it should be respected as triumph over hardships that we seemingly will never be able to grasp. Hence why they are called "heroes": they do things that we believe would we would never do.

 

Since I've nailed at you a little too much, let me say that if you want to argue over who is "better" or who's story should have more merit, then by all means disgrace that person's "heroism" because of pettiness. If he's your own personal inspiration, then that's all the better, but there is no need for the insistance that because someone does something and should be driven to a plateau of greatness. Will it make their achievement anymore outstanding than it already was/is? I hardly think so.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

At least you retracted your statements about Tillman, and for the record, I never demeaned anything that McCartney has done, just Nanks by calling him a jackass.

 

He's since stopped acting like a jackass, so I'll say that he's no longer a jackass. But I don't know him in real life so I don't know shit. Have a nice day.

[Guest Lightning Flik]

I never demeaned anything that McCartney has done, just Nanks by calling him a jackass.

I was more talking about the trying to that no one should try to one up another herioc story. Nothing more. I used 1 inch punch's own words as a basis for my little stuff up there.

[Guest Nanks]

the_1inch_punch for someone who claims to be a journalism student, you sure have some learning to do. It's generally a good idea to get the facts straight before passing judgement or expressing your opinion. I'm sure you did see him on TV today, but did you care to notice why??? He had to go back to Bali and testify in the court hearing against the man charged with the bombings. Do you reckon he's getting on the phone asking for these interviews??? Yeah, I'm sure he just loves having to discuss and relive the events which killed his friends and nearly took his life from him, changing it forever to the point where he nearly couldn't marry his fiance. I might add that if you want to be a journalist and can't see merit in this story, you should learn to busk or something.

[Guest the 1inch punch]

the_1inch_punch for someone who claims to be a journalism student, you sure have some learning to do.

Well, it is a four year course

[Guest the 1inch punch]

What, no one else gonna argue with me?