Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 8, 2003 Jericho is an odd one. Put him in with a great wrestler (benoit) and you'll get a great match. Put him in with a bad wrestler (hogan) and you'll get a surprisingly good match. Put him with a wrestler who is around his own skill level, and that match isn't as good as you'd think (rhyno, HHH, austin)... in other words, he can carry or get carried - but when it comes to give and take, he isn't really that good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted June 8, 2003 I never thought about that before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted June 8, 2003 Its the damed truth. BTW, this thread is so funny because of the overflowing pessimism. It is really hilarious to see how much people think this will bomb. not that they are wrong, it is just homorous, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted June 8, 2003 AngleSault, I found a new match you can use: Test vs. 'Taker, Summerslam 2002. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted June 8, 2003 Jericho is an odd one. Put him in with a great wrestler (benoit) and you'll get a great match. Put him in with a bad wrestler (hogan) and you'll get a surprisingly good match. Put him with a wrestler who is around his own skill level, and that match isn't as good as you'd think (rhyno, HHH, austin)... in other words, he can carry or get carried - but when it comes to give and take, he isn't really that good. Yup, Jericho is quite an odd one... Oh well. Hopefully he at least gets something out of this thingy. As for seeing this live, I'd only do it if I was truly bored for that Sunday, got it free, and didn't have to leave the house. And even then, that's slim to none. ...meh... I wanna see if Fell Into A Cell is actually going to be the worst match of all time, and kills the mystic of that match (although, I feel the mystic was killed with all these damned souped up matches so damned often, but eh, it's about the only thing the WWE can bank on these days). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 8, 2003 AngleSault, I found a new match you can use: Test vs. 'Taker, Summerslam 2002. Haven't seen it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted June 8, 2003 I think I just want to see this card for Flair/Micheals. HIAC will be boring. I will be interested in the match Jericho/Goldberg have. Having read recent house show reports, RVD/Kane vs. La Resistance might actually be decent. Christian/Booker will be alright. Steiner/Test won't be good. If I could see it for a cheap price or free, I will see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted June 8, 2003 AngleSault, I found a new match you can use: Test vs. 'Taker, Summerslam 2002. Haven't seen it Well then rent SS 2002 (which is an awesome card anyways) and watch the match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Will Scarlet Report post Posted June 8, 2003 I do not have much interest in seeing it. I was curious to see the new Nowinski/Rodney Mack team on PPV, but since they didn't have a Raw segment, and apparently they didn't fare much better on Heat, they appear to be in for a depush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted June 8, 2003 I do not have much interest in seeing it. I was curious to see the new Nowinski/Rodney Mack team on PPV, but since they didn't have a Raw segment, and apparently they didn't fare much better on Heat, they appear to be in for a depush. And we (or at least I am) are surprised by this? [insert evil maniacal laughter here] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted June 8, 2003 Am I the only one not even that interested in Michaels/Flair? Granted, the dream match concept is neat but this is ten years too late. The only Michaels performance I have liked was WM and Flair seemed to pull a miracle out of his ass to have a decent match with HHH. I am thinking at best this could be solid, but I have seen people throwing around potential 4 snowflakes for this match and I, personally, think that is a little nuts. Also, this match is being commended for having the best build up, when it seems to me that this is the same buildup that Jericho/Michaels had. "I used to watch you, then I got better than you." Only now it is Michaels in Jericho's shoes and Flair in Michaels' shoes. And the only other thing that would interest me on this card is Jericho/Goldberg and that is not enough to get me on board. Even Booker and Christian need to show me a solid singles match before I buy into them again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 8, 2003 I do not have much interest in seeing it. I was curious to see the new Nowinski/Rodney Mack team on PPV, but since they didn't have a Raw segment, and apparently they didn't fare much better on Heat, they appear to be in for a depush. Praise the Lord! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 8, 2003 I am completely and utterly disinterested in Flair vs. Michaels... though it should be noted that I am a Hogan and Bret mark I don't know why they didn't just keep it as a "dream match" - there didn't have to be heated emotions between the two to get the crowd to get into it. Flair is a legend, Michaels is a "legend", let them have a legends match. No big need for a storyline, they want to wrestle eachother to see where they stand, that's it. *In* the match itself you can let the story develop - because shit, that match has a good chance of sucking ass and they need all the story they can to make it work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Will Scarlet Report post Posted June 8, 2003 Am I the only one not even that interested in Michaels/Flair? I am not too pumped to see it either. I think it could be a rather decent match around ***, no one near as good as it could have been. Besides, the thought of two non-wrestlers going at it does not exactly excite me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 8, 2003 Besides, the thought of two non-wrestlers going at it does not exactly excite me. That's not true. You just said you wanted to see a Mack match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JDMattitudeV1 Report post Posted June 8, 2003 I might see how this one turns out and if it is good, then I will buy it on DVD. There are actually three matches that I am interested in at Bad Blood, which is three more than Judgement Day. Flair/HBK, Fuck Goldberg/Jericho and Booker/Christian have all been built well, and depending on Jericho's ability to carry Goldberg, all three could be good. Hell even HHH/Nash could be interesting for train-wreck/potential quad tear value. Still, after being burned a few times by the WWE over the last year or so I'm not prepared to pay for it on PPV, I'll wait and make sure it is good before getting the DVD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted June 8, 2003 I still love the fact that for the first ever Raw PPV, they have one of their top 3 faces stuck in a meaningless tag title match. You would think if they ever wanted to get a big singles match out of RVD, again, this would be the PPV to do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted June 8, 2003 Remember kids, when you buy a shitty PPV, you're telling Vince he's doing a good job. *will not buy* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Will Scarlet Report post Posted June 8, 2003 That's not true. You just said you wanted to see a Mack match He's a guilty pleasure. And I really enjoy Teddy Long interviews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JDMattitudeV1 Report post Posted June 8, 2003 Remember kids, when you buy a shitty PPV, you're telling Vince he's doing a good job. *will not buy* Good point. That could lead to more of Kevin Nash in PPV main events, which no good can come of. Hey, I just remembered, I picked Bad Blood in the "How long til Kevin Nash gets injured again thread" a few weeks back. Let's hope I am right, though I'd settle for HHH quad tear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted June 8, 2003 When is this PPV? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JDMattitudeV1 Report post Posted June 8, 2003 Not this Sunday but next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 8, 2003 It's not the fifteenth? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted June 8, 2003 I'm looking forward to Bad Blood personally. I usually got my friends house to watch PPV's on his pirated Direct T.V. however we will be watching this PPV at BW3's, which is a restaurant/bar. We have quite a few people coming with us to watch the PPV, and unless Father's Day gets in the way for a couple of people, it should be very enjoyable, regardless of the PPV that's showing. That being said, I'm looking forward to all of the matches announced so far except for the tag team title match. I think that La Resistance are way too green to be on RAW let alone a PPV. Kane is the biggest pile of suck on RAW, and I know that this is all going to lead to another bad title reign and a Kane/RVD feud that I don't want to watch. Especially if Kane wins the feud. Triple H Vs. Kevin Nash won't be that bad because they can rely on the gimmick of the match to help get through the 12-18 minute match. Both men will bleed. Both men will stall by using the cage, etc. It won't be pretty, but Hunter usually blades pretty good, so that will be entertaining. I'm actually rooting for HHH. Kindof a "lesser of two evils" type thing. I'd rather HHH keep the belt than have to watch Nash as champ. Seeing Foley again will be cool, and will most likely make the match memorable. HBK Vs. Flair should be good, but it should've happened years ago. Oh well, better late than never I guess. Let's hope that Flair nails all of his spots and that the crowd is rabid. I'm sure it will be overbooked somehow. I wanna see Stacy become a freak and Test get pummeled...so... I don't care about Booker T/Christian. Christian shouldn't have cut his fucking hair. I hate Booker's moveset, but I know he's paid his dues. That being said, Booker shouldn't even be in the IC division, and Christian should be in a good midcard feud with someone that could be elevated from it. Someone like the Hurricane. Jericho/Goldberg is actually the match that I'm most anticipating. I wanted to see it in WCW, so I still want to see it today. I still see nothing wrong with Goldberg as he has always entertained me. Same with Hogan though. Like others have said, I'm sure that the women will have some sort of match, and judging by last Monday's RAW and tonights confidential, I think that Ivory might be involved. Will Gail Kim ever show up on TV? Prolly on RAW the night after Bad Blood. Maybe this Monday...maybe at the PPV. Who knows? As for the "Red Neck Triathalon" I'm sure it will be something hokey like each man selects a "contest" so that Austin can pick a beer drinking contest or some shit like that. It'll be hit or miss, but they'll be aiming for comedy, you can bank on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 8, 2003 Dollars to doughnuts they use Father's Day as an excuse for why 3 people ordered (The other three McMahons couldn't even convince Shane) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mindless_Aggression Report post Posted June 8, 2003 As far as injuries go, if we're gonna beg for someones career to be ended, might as well go full monty and beg for a Nash quad tear just as he gets HHH up at the peak for the jacknife, resulting in HHH receiving Droz Driver 99. Off the side of hell in a cell. Through Michael Cole. Somehow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 8, 2003 As far as injuries go, if we're gonna beg for someones career to be ended, might as well go full monty and beg for a Nash quad tear just as he gets HHH up at the peak for the jacknife, resulting in HHH receiving Droz Driver 99. Off the side of hell in a cell. Through Michael Cole. Somehow. I don't want them to be paralyzed. I DO want both of their legs to fall off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted June 8, 2003 As far as injuries go, if we're gonna beg for someones career to be ended, might as well go full monty and beg for a Nash quad tear just as he gets HHH up at the peak for the jacknife, resulting in HHH receiving Droz Driver 99. Off the side of hell in a cell. Through Michael Cole. Somehow. I don't want them to be paralyzed. I DO want both of their legs to fall off. Same diff 'Saulty. Just different way of doing it. Legs fall off or can't feel them. Either or is the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sakura Report post Posted June 8, 2003 I like threads like these becuase you always see the apologizing and justifying excuses. "Well, Nash/Crips won't be THAT bad." "Well, Steiner/Test could be funny" You know there's a problem when you've got to add the catchphrases like "not that bad", "sure it won't be Benoit vs. Angle" and "I am looking at this like a mark". I really don't see how anyone would honestly want to buy a ppv for reasons like that. I wonder how many people that say stuff like "I'm looking forward to it because it might not be that bad" are telling the truth and how many are just trying to come up with excuses to support the ppv just because it's a WWE ppv and they will buy anything Vince sells? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted June 8, 2003 I really don't see how anyone would honestly want to buy a ppv for reasons like that. I wonder how many people that say stuff like "I'm looking forward to it because it might not be that bad" are telling the truth and how many are just trying to come up with excuses to support the ppv just because it's a WWE ppv and they will buy anything Vince sells? I got out of that phase after InVasion. It hasn't really been that wonderful to pick a PPV that I'd like to watch. Hell, even the matches that I swear "I'll watch because it's awful" aren't getting me to buy the PPVs. I mean, I'll watch, but really, unless it's free of charge and it's on the net, I don't even bother. Even then, I've only watched WMX9 and that's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites