Guest El Satanico Report post Posted June 11, 2003 But would you still call him "Lance Storm" and play up the weather phenomenon gimmick? The best would be for JR to be the total straight man and say "Oh for christsakes we all know it's Lance Storm, and the Hurricane is Gregory Helms" and have King get on his nerves, and have Helms be totally oblivious. Yes and his evil plans would all involve weather. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2003 But would you still call him "Lance Storm" and play up the weather phenomenon gimmick? The best would be for JR to be the total straight man and say "Oh for christsakes we all know it's Lance Storm, and the Hurricane is Gregory Helms" and have King get on his nerves, and have Helms be totally oblivious. Yes and his evil plans would all involve weather. I'm now officially thinking of Lance Storm dressed up as the Weather Wizard...that I saw in that one Superman Cartoon ep where he raced the Flash. I don't read Comics, so that's my only source besides the Internet to know about some villains like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2003 Something to think about that I just did with the idea of Lance Storm being a super-villain to Hurricane's Super-Hero... Remember in the past, Storm and Hurricane were a tag team (the Hurri-League, as Helms calls it on his website). That could be slight motivation...if WWE decides to remember history. Though I'm still waiting for a Hurricane/Molly reunion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the 1inch punch Report post Posted June 11, 2003 First of all, I'm the with the vast majority who believe that Rico as Adrian Street 2k3 will rock the house. Second of all, i agree with whoever said that a promtion has to get behind Storm to get the best of him. Just for the record, he ended up playing fourth banana in the Un-Americans, when they brought in Regal to be the mouthpiece. For some reason, Storm constantly plays second banana, from Credible, to Hurricane, to the Un-Americans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 11, 2003 I officially declare Lance Storms' evil villain character's name as "The Storm Master". They could bring Dawn Marie back as "Tempest", his evil manager-by-day/super vixxxen-by-night, who, as Dawn Marie, tries to corrupt young Gregory Helms/Hurricane into joining the dark clouds... err.. i mean Dark Side. The Storm Master could have his 'storm troopers' (various indy workers) each with their own weather-patterned name (Twister, Down Pour, HAAAIL!, Overcast), who - you guessed it - wear really generic suits and matching cap and when they get hit the graphics "Zop!" "Bam!" "BOOM!" appear on the screen. Now... for a villainous catchphrase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted June 11, 2003 I officially declare Lance Storms' evil villain character's name as "The Storm Master". They could bring Dawn Marie back as "Tempest", his evil manager-by-day/super vixxxen-by-night, who, as Dawn Marie, tries to corrupt young Gregory Helms/Hurricane into joining the dark clouds... err.. i mean Dark Side. The Storm Master could have his 'storm troopers' (various indy workers) each with their own weather-patterned name (Twister, Down Pour, HAAAIL!, Overcast), who - you guessed it - wear really generic suits and matching cap and when they get hit the graphics "Zop!" "Bam!" "BOOM!" appear on the screen. Now... for a villainous catchphrase. OMG THAT'S GENIOUS~! For The Storm Master's catchphrase: "If I could talk about my sinister plans for a moment..." You know, to play on his old catchphrase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2003 Hmmm... Something about the calm before the Storm, maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted June 11, 2003 Hmmm... Something about the calm before the Storm, maybe? Hm, sounds good. Edit: Like "I'm the calm before the Storm. Fear the Storm Master." Crappy, but I'm trying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the 1inch punch Report post Posted June 11, 2003 The Storm Master could have his 'storm troopers' (various indy workers) each with their own weather-patterned name (Twister, Down Pour, HAAAIL!, Overcast), who - you guessed it - wear really generic suits and matching cap and when they get hit the graphics "Zop!" "Bam!" "BOOM!" appear on the screen. There already is a guy on the indy circuit called Hail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pete Report post Posted June 11, 2003 I personally enjoy Lance Storm I feel he is real solid in the ring, and on the mike. When given time in WCW and ECW he was able to get heat. It is true his punches suck so that hurts him a lot in the WWE. When he was in WCW him and Booker-T had some great matches. He had alot of good matches with a variety of opponents in WCW Booker, Kidman, Konnan, Awesome etc. He's one of those guys you want on your roster because he can put on solid matches. If the WWE is serious about going to a mat oriented product with less holy shit spots he may get over more because he's one of the few workers who could work that style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheArchiteck Report post Posted June 11, 2003 Hmm....what was the Adrian gimmick about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 11, 2003 I officially declare Lance Storms' evil villain character's name as "The Storm Master". They could bring Dawn Marie back as "Tempest", his evil manager-by-day/super vixxxen-by-night, who, as Dawn Marie, tries to corrupt young Gregory Helms/Hurricane into joining the dark clouds... err.. i mean Dark Side. The Storm Master could have his 'storm troopers' (various indy workers) each with their own weather-patterned name (Twister, Down Pour, HAAAIL!, Overcast), who - you guessed it - wear really generic suits and matching cap and when they get hit the graphics "Zop!" "Bam!" "BOOM!" appear on the screen. Now... for a villainous catchphrase. OMG THAT'S GENIOUS~! For The Storm Master's catchphrase: "If I could talk about my sinister plans for a moment..." You know, to play on his old catchphrase. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA That would be a PERFECT catchphrase. And on the side, Storm should play the wealthy entrepreneur that everyone loves who becomes the Storm Master when he puts his elbow pads on (Thus, concealing his secret identity) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 11, 2003 Storm is one of those guys that a company has to expand a great deal of effort in order to get over. In WCW it took him winning three titles in his first month or so in a company. ECW had him as part of a dominant tag team before he really got a reaction. SMW had music videos out the ass for the guy and Jericho. WWE just doesn't want to go to the same effort considering they have guys that can and do get over on their own under similar circumstances. Quite honestly, Storm has not made anything out of the little he's been given so I can see not being in a great hurry to give him a larger role. They repeatedly try to push Test. Storm is at least worth it. Someone needs to compile this idea and send it to Lance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 11, 2003 I was thinking about Storm being wealthy too. But the storyline would have to be something like his great aunt dies (of suspicious, weather-related, causes) and her lawyer/legal assistant, one D. Marie, has notified Lance that he is set to inherit his great aunt's vast fortune. Possible Catchphrases: "The Weather in the WWE is about to change..." "I'd hate to rain on everybodys parade..." "Some people call me strange, some say I differ from the norm, but your weather is about to change, when it's time for MY furious storm!" "The forcast calls for pain!" (HAIL Rules. He was the king of sat night. FEAR the piledriver!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest deadbeater Report post Posted June 11, 2003 Lance should stop bitching, and do what Steven Richards did: hitch a ride with one of the women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted June 11, 2003 Yeah someone really should send this "Weather Master" idea to Lance. I'm sure he'd get a good laugh out of it and maybe a mention in his commentary if nothing else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted June 11, 2003 Lance should just be happy that he has a job. If he’s jobbing to Steiner or Albert, he’s still on the payroll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sean pyro Report post Posted June 11, 2003 holy shit haha.. rico as exotic adrian! can't wait to see this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sean pyro Report post Posted June 11, 2003 Hmm....what was the Adrian gimmick about? he was like.. cross between a drag queen and a street fighter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 11, 2003 I prefer my "rebel without a cause/clue" gimmick for Rico. Building up to Storms' turn into The Storm Master you could have Helms indirectly ruining his life. Like have his wife leave him because he couldn't get to a phone in time to wish her happy birthday, and it was the same phonebooth that Helms used to change into the Hurricane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the 1inch punch Report post Posted June 11, 2003 Lance should stop bitching, and do what Steven Richards did: hitch a ride with one of the women. Lance should do what Stevie does, i.e not complain about the fact that the only financially viable organisation in the United States has given him a steady job, a shot on television and all the other benefits that come from working there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dvkorn Report post Posted June 11, 2003 Lance Storm is a tremendous, tremendous talent and it is a shame that the WWF don't know how to use him. He has never really been given a push. He had the IC Title for a little while in 2001 but that was nothing too special. He has never really been given the chance to get over. They give him 3 minute matches on TV and hardly anything on PPV. You can't really expect him to get over in that time. When he was with Regal and Morley, again they were on TV but all they did was have 5 minute matches on TV and a short match on PPV. If they actually let him talk and let him wrestle for a bit longer then he would get over. He has had 1 singles match on PPV since he came from WCW and it was at SummerSlam 2001 and it was a belter, ****ish, IMO. Yet they have not given him the chance to do it again. I think if he was on Smackdown when the Smackdown Six were running wild, he would have slotted in real good, with Heyman booking. But RAW had a fucked up booking team and did nothing with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2003 I officially declare Lance Storms' evil villain character's name as "The Storm Master". They could bring Dawn Marie back as "Tempest", his evil manager-by-day/super vixxxen-by-night, who, as Dawn Marie, tries to corrupt young Gregory Helms/Hurricane into joining the dark clouds... err.. i mean Dark Side. The Storm Master could have his 'storm troopers' (various indy workers) each with their own weather-patterned name (Twister, Down Pour, HAAAIL!, Overcast), who - you guessed it - wear really generic suits and matching cap and when they get hit the graphics "Zop!" "Bam!" "BOOM!" appear on the screen. Now... for a villainous catchphrase. My God, that is brilliant..... I've said it before and I will say it again, you should be a booker or writer somewhere, Rudo... not only would that work, if done right it could be the feud of the year, and last for about a year, ala Dreamer/Raven... Hurricane coming within inches of beating his arch rival many times, only to have his Storm Troopers rescue their leader by outside interference.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted June 12, 2003 Oh boo fucking hoo Lance. You got a big push last winter and it failed. He should be lucky to be employed You're an idiot. That's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the 1inch punch Report post Posted June 12, 2003 Why is he an idiot, i feel the same way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 12, 2003 1)It wasn't a "big push". What exactly did they 'push'? His in-ring ability? His promo skills? His look? They didn't push anything other than his ability to get his ass beat. And how exactly was it 'big'? That EPIC feud with JR and King (which centred around Regals brass knuckles more than Lance Storm)? 2)"Lucky to be employed" when they have stiffs like Nathan Jones, Big Show, The Cat, etc. employed, is a bit weak. Why don't you just say "at least he's not dead"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted June 12, 2003 Storm has a look and promo skills? Huh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest it-lenny Report post Posted June 12, 2003 Read his website - Lance is one angry man. but hes getting paid.. tell him to get the hell out of WWE and do some Indy work for awhile, then he'll appreciate what he had.. fuckin crybaby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 12, 2003 Well he doesn't have promo skills, nor did I say he had promo skills, I just said of what the WWE could have pushed of him - the big 3 being ring-ability (Benoit/Angle), promo-skills (Rock/Austin), and look (Nathan Jones/Big Show) - they didn't push any of them. As for his look, Storm has a great look. He has been able to get in incredible shape with no roids - that should be rewarded in an industry where drug use is rampant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted June 12, 2003 In the past I would have defended Lance Storm with the old, "Give him longer than 5-minute matches and he'll get over" argument. But after Rodney Mack's 5-minute White Boy Challenges, I realized something: On any given RAW or Smackdown, maybe one match will be longer than 5 minutes. It's been that way for years, and EVERYONE knows it, including the wrestlers. So if Lance Storm is going to get over, he needs to do something in those 3-5 minutes he's given and not resort to the "They only gave me 5 minutes!" excuse. RVD got over despite the 5-minute matches. So did Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy (before he went to shit), D'Lo Brown (for a time), Rikishi (he WAS really over for a time), Hurricane, and several other guys. As a wrestler who has been in the company for 2 years now, Lance should know that he's not going to get longer than a few minutes if it's not a PPV. So he should be pacing himself or whatever it is he does and go balls to the wall and GET OVER. How to do that? I'm not exactly sure; I'm not a pro wrestler. Oversell. Act super-assholish. Get some new and more exciting moves. When you get a chance to cut a promo, make it memorable even if the lines they give you are boring. Now, if they're telling him to just go out there, don't do anything special and just job to Scott Steiner or whoever, I'd buy that more than the "not given enough time" thing. But as long as he has any kind of creative license, Lance Storm has a lot to do with whether Lance Storm gets over with the fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites