chaosrage 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 chaos, How do you know your definition of evil is the same as God's? You continually cite innocent people dying as proof of God's lack of benevolence. How do you know that really is the worst thing that could happen? Meh, torturing and killing innocent people is either an evil act or it isn't. If it's good for him, it must be good for us too. Maybe torturing people gives him some kind of sick amusement and he calls that love. Well good for him. Under our definition of evil though, he would be the worst monster that ever existed. And if we can't judge him, then we can't make the decision that he's good either. He would just be neutral. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosrage 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 RRR, I've seen you mockingly say that, "God never does evil, nonono," so don't expect me to sit and quarrel with you. Why do I believe evil doesn't come from God? Because it doesn't. He may allow something to happen to achieve a greater good down the road as a result but evil actions are the work of sin, and the devil. not God. No, see, if you're a Christian, then you believe God created everything. Everything therefore is his work and the result of him. Why can't you understand this? NOTHING can happen that he doesn't want to happen. He knows from the beginning exactly how every single thing he ever creates will play out before it's created. Plus, I already gave two quotes in this thread from the bible where it specifically says that he DID in fact create evil. In the book of Job, it opens with a dialogue between God and the Devil where the devil goes before God and schemes about Job, a righteous man. God says he'll allow Satan to do some things in Job's life. God did this to prove a point to the Devil (and to the biblical reader), that God is in control but he's not making evil itself. Job, in the end, prospered greatly and was well blessed for withstanding the malicious assault. Of course God could have just given him all of that to begin with and not made him suffer because of a bet with Satan, but I guess that would be too much to ask. People are so quick to point the finger at God and forget about the devil. Which, honestly, is exactly what the devil wants. So? As long as you can't come up with a reason as to why he shouldn't rain manna down from the sky, people have every right to point the finger at him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Hm. I wonder if YHWH is a moral relativist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
