Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Isn't Brazil Dead? Does it Matter? He still got better work rate the OVW grad Jindrak... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bravesfan Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Guys the match on monday is non title, if Kane wins, then he gets a title shot. It's for the title, not a shot at the contendership to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wrestlingbs Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Kane is unmasked to reveal........Bobo Brazil. Saw it coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Adrian 3:16 Report post Posted June 19, 2003 I honestly don't care at this point. The Kane character is dead in the water and has been for a good while now. As much as he bores me on TV though, I can't help but feel sorry for good old Glen Jacobs. Here was a guy who was never going to be at the top of the promotion, but he made the character work for years. Then he comes back from an injury, breakdances in S&M gear, gets possibly the worst case of the HHH treatment yet and is left off the Mania card for the first time since his debut- and none of it was his fault. *awaits typical "no it is his fault becuz he's a HOSS! LOLZ!" responses* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest newblood03 Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Finally, Kane is poised to lose his mask next week by losing to the man that WWE revolve their RAW shows around, Triple H. Many fear that Kane losing his mask will be a career-killing move, considering there haven’t been many career benefits for those who have took the hood off. backstagewrestling.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 19, 2003 I dis-believe that theory... Black Scorpions career SKYROCKETED after he was unmasked... and on a serious note...Wasn't Juventud more over afte rhe lost the mask? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted June 19, 2003 and on a serious note...Wasn't Juventud more over afte rhe lost the mask? He was also more fucked up out of his mind, but whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Yep, good old Juvi, got arrested in Aus for taking e's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Did Juvy ever wear a mask in America? ps - Juvy owns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BoboBrazil Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Juvy wore a mask for like the first 2 1/2 years of his WCW career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted June 19, 2003 ah. this must have been during my boycott of the first 4 years of Nitro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted June 19, 2003 I'd be stoked if they took off his mask and it was someone that looks like Glen Jacobs ... but then HHH rips off the face to show that it was just a Jacobs looking mask and it's really Vince under the mask. He could say "it was me, HHH, it was me all along! - and I would have gotten away with, if it wasn't for you meddling kids"(combining the higher power debacle and the end of every Scooby Doo episode.) Please note that this entire post is a joke, and I don't want it to happen. It's just that all these unmasking theories remind me of Scooby Doo. I'll shut up again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Don't have Kane loose the mask. It took forever to get him over, and now they wanna change the gimmick??? The hell with that, keep him the same and make him the monster that he should be..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Old Me Report post Posted June 19, 2003 I'm torn, because I think Kane needs to lose the mask if he ever wants to be elevated, but there's so many logic gaps. Although I'm sure the WWE braintrust would come up with some retarded excuse as to why he's not scarred. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jack Potts Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Kane should DEFINITELY keep the mask. Actually, I think Evolution should do something that's so psychologically damaging to Kane that it drives him further into himself. Monster Kane should return with a full face mask and a new costume. His S&M costume is worse than any of his previous costumes. Even being able to see the gap in his teeth humanizes him too much for my tastes. If they do decide to take the mask off, I believe Choken One's suggestion, where HHH offers Kane cosmetic surgery if he joins Evolution, is the way they should do it. Even when he returns, they should have a few weeks where Kane is appears in full-face bandages to build anticipation for his eventual unmasking. Now everyone has to admit, if nothing else, this angle got us talking about Kane again, and has created some degree of uncertainty about the outcome of a main event match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Renegade Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Kane could just say he was healed by DDP a year back...thats the best I can come up with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Logical Purposes STILL works best with my Idea... HHH offers Kane Cosmetic Surgery and RVD takes offense and wins the title in a HOLY SHIT moment... HHH has no problem because he knows RVD has good heat and it keeps him from facing goldberg... So kane takes the surgery...Monster heel...Beats RVD...Goldberg wins the title and either fucks up or HHH goes over... I'm think HHH is in heaven right now... He can go a MILLION different ways with this Kane/RVD angle and avoid jobbing to Goldberg at Summerslam... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hosserific Report post Posted June 19, 2003 demask def. the gimmick is way old...and if they do maybe this could be a major push. at least he's better then HHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 19, 2003 what can you do with Glen Jacbos how that you've given him 3 unworkable gimmicks that the son of a bitch actually made work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DerangedHermit Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Uhm...I think it won't actually be Kane wearing the Kane mask on Monday - it could be Kevin Nash. :snickers: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2003 I have an idea about how they can unmask Kane and turn him heel. Sorry if this has been thought up already cause I didn't read the other posts in this thread. They could unmask Kane and show that his face is scar free and he admits that he's been lying this whole time. The whole thing was a lie that got way out of hand. It was originally just to get in the Undertaker's head, but then they realized they had to keep the lie going. Kane could say that he doesn't care that he lied to the fans all these years and frankly he'll never apologize for it cause he doesn't give a crap about the fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sakura Report post Posted June 20, 2003 But people othr than Kane have seen his face. DX saw it and acted like he was horribly scarred. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2003 well the idea I had was the least plot hole ridden idea I could come up with besides plastic surgery. I doubt many people will remember those incidents were others saw his face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 20, 2003 I'm convinced the Smartest thing for WWE to do is the Cosmetic Surgery Angle... You get HHH to convince Kane he will be normal in society if he does and HHH pays outta his own pocket... Kane unmasks and forfeits the title...They do a Makeup job and Kane is scarred..RVD comes out...Calls him a disgrace and wrestles and WINS HHH's title... Kane comes back in two weeks freshly healed but Evolution overblows his "COOLNESS" and slowly trat him like a loser again and KANE snaps...and turns face for no reason... or just debut Jindrak and watch it fail...either way... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2003 but the plastic surgery idea still leaves the gaping holes caused by the Katie Vick ordeal. Atleast the "lie" idea could pass that off as weaknesses in the "lie" that were exploited by actual events from his real past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hartinator Report post Posted June 20, 2003 Guys, how do you know that Kane won't win the world title against Trips on Monday? ... .... ...... ...uh. ...Yeah...I wanted to believe that there is an ACTUAL contest next week. Boo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 20, 2003 Actually with all this goldberg bullshit KANE winning the title...DOES have a some possibility. Why? HHH refuses to JOB his vanity belt to GOLDBERG of all people. So he decides to Put the title on An over face that has no Political Power (Kane) and do it on Free TV (so his lost is bigger news)...He takes credit for the high rating of course or blames low ratings on kane...either way. So he gets Kane...The unstopable force...and lets Kane run with it for a Month and waits and sees if Goldberg can get himself fired... If Goldberg goes screw up and get fired...HHH walks in a couple weeks before Slam and takes his title back and goes over Foley or Sting...and every thing is back to square one and he can claim "Hey, I did the job for Kane" and try to make it make him look good... If Goldberg DOESN'T get fired..Simple..HHH convinces McMahon that they are booing Goldberg because he is an natural Heel...Kane drops the title to Goldberg...HHH turns Face and wins the title back at Summerslam and convinces Vince that Goldberg has no value after Slam and he is fired... So HHH could drop the title to Kane MERELY as a Political move to avoud jobbing to Goldberg at Summer Slam... If HHH REALLY wanted to fuck with Goldberg...He job it to Jericho instead but hey's that asking for a Fucking miracle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted June 20, 2003 Actually, I think the most logical thing to do is a SHOOT~! Plenty of wrestlers have "gone out of character" and decided to use their real names (like Beaver Clevage/Chaz). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hartinator Report post Posted June 20, 2003 Oh man. Oh man. OH MAN. I pray that it doesn't come to that. Glenn Jacobs in a shoot style type wrestler shtick gimmick..thing? No NO NO!!!!! It will BOMB!! Even more reason that the WWF might actually do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 20, 2003 ^ You could say that about all three of Jacobs WWF gimmicks...and the fucker made them work on some level... The guy is AMAZING. how come he isnt in hollywood instead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites