If you were to book Mania 20 today

[Guest Choken One]

Of course you did...EVERYONE perfers there card...cept for mine...My card blew ass chunks.

 

I'ma do a new one shortly...

[Guest Goodear]

Doing this so far out seems incredibly wacky... but what the hell right? Going on the ten match format...

 

Main Event: Brock Lesnar © vs Kurt Angle

--> Turning Brock heel and into a Vader-type of champion who lives simply to beat the hell out of people would be the way I would go with this story. I would have Brock turn on Angle in a tag match with Haas and Benjamin and establish a nice little stable that makes sense considering their history. Play up Brock going after the neck and Angle never quitting and tah dah. Book this either way really since Brock and Angle are going to be on-and-off feuding for the rest of Kurt's career.

 

Cage Match: Triple H © vs. Chris Jericho - Referee Steve Austin

--> As long as this title reign has gone, the WWE needs to blow it off in some spectacular manner. And with no really strong faces, you have to go to the heel side for a convincing adversary. Jericho turns face and have to do with Evolution for a while until Austin forces them into a cage. End Hunter's reign at Mania with NO interfearence and you've rebuilt Jericho no question.

 

Intercontental Title: Booker T © vs. Kane

--> You've turned Kane heel you might as well use him for something beyond a RVD feud. Send him up against IC Champion Booker and let Book get over by a pinfall before Kane goes all postal (again).

 

US Title: Matt Hardy © vs Eddie Guerrero

Eddie plays heel as Matt turns face for almost no stated reason other than he's all cool. This gives Matt the chance to put on his first really great singles match in a losing effort to the best wrestler in the company.

 

Nontitle Tag Champions vs Tag Champions: Haas and Benjamin vs Hurricane and RVD

--> La Resistance sucks and I hope to god they lose sooner rather than later... assuming they do and that Hurricane's "find a partner" angle plays out with at least a partner that is over, and the team has some chemistry, we get here. Haas and Benjamin play it as proving that they actually are the best tag team 'in the world' while RVD/Hurricane battle for respect or something. Go Haas and Benjamin here since they're keen.

 

Cruiserweight Title: Dragon © vs Rey

--> Have a title match that Dragon wins and then bring the rematch here where Rey can get the belt back. Using Kidman as a foil should give the feud the legs to get this far in the day.

 

Orton/Flair vs Michaels/Maven

--> You know that WWE is going to get Orton and Michaels on the card somewhere. So I thought that it wouldn't be a bad spot to put them together in a little bit of a mentor/student tag match deal with Flair and someone young... sadly, Maven is the only really young guy on the RAW side that I could think of. Moving Spanky over would make some sense but would kill him on the downside since he'd be stuck on RAW. Put over Michaels' kid in a bit of an upset over Orton and give them a little rub.

 

Nash vs Goldberg

--> Spear - Jackhammer... chachacha. You know, if they're still on the roster by then and Nash goes Evolution, it can play out of Summerslam.

 

Wildcard Survivor Series Match

Chris Benoit/Cena/Christian/Test vs Rhyno/Billy Gunn/Scott Steiner/Goldust

--> Yeah, I'm in the "jam everyone into a match" mode... basically, here are the midcarders for the two brands jammed together hopefully to get a good match out of the deal. Rhyno and Benoit eliminate each other and Cena puts down Goldust to survive.

 

Undertaker vs Show

--> Undertaker keeps the streak alive with some Ultimate Fighting submission. Go Deadman Go.

Edited July 7, 2003 by Goodear

[Guest TheGame2705]

WM XX is the end of an era so big things will happen and another chapter is closed. The split ends and at Backlash champions unify.

 

WWE Championship:

Chris Benoit def. Kurt Angle

Benoit accomplishes his dream and no one falls on their face

 

Final Farewell:

Steve Austin def. Hulk Hogan

Austin wins and then after the match they both celebrate together both having retired. Vince stands at the entryway and claps.

 

World Heavyweight:

Chris Jericho def. Triple H

Triple H holds the title all the way from now until WM XX. He beats Booker T, RVD atleast twice more, and a bunch of others. Everyone thinks he's unbeatable. Jericho challenges him and the fans get behind him and turn him face. Jericho beats the unbeatable Triple H.

 

Deadman's Last Ride:

The Undertaker def. Brock Lesnar

At Armageddon, Undertaker beats Big Show but after the match he, Brock, and A-Train beat down Taker and leave him bloody and down in the ring. Undertaker comes back in February and starts haunting Lesnar. Lesnar and Show look for Train and find him inside a casket. After Show gets taken out. Week before Wrestlemania, Brock is alone in his locker room and he looks into the mirror to see the image of The Undertaker behind right before the lights turn out. He runs out of the room and into the parking lot looking for Paul. The door locks by accident so he's locked out. A hearse drives away while he's outside. Heyman opens the door that coincidentally Brock's banging on and Brock explains. Heyman gets Brock a match with Taker. At WM Brock's in the ring and then the arena goes dark and on the screen, Undertaker shows up dressed like he was in 1997-1998 and says "Maybe Show didn't spread his knowledge around, but you can't kill someone who's already dead." A loud explosion as Taker gets off the screen and then his old music plays as he walks to the ring slowly. Basically Taker kills Brock in this match with Brock pulling out the desperation F5 but Taker sitting right up. Taker does his kneeling pose as the lights fade and then come back on with the bell sound in his music with Taker gone.

 

TLC 5:

Edge and Christian def. Matt Hardy and Shannon Moore and The Dudley Boyz

The tag belts will merge at the PPV in the last TLC match and SD and RAW each have a team. The twist is RAW and SD also have to choose one person each for the third team. Christian says he was the innovator of TLC and shows up on SD looking for a partner. He's really high on Guerrero but never gets the chance to ask him. Christian makes an open in-ring invitation for anyone to be his partner in TLC 5 and Edge comes out. Christian is shocked as all hell and the crowd is hyped for Edge. They shake hands wearily. Matt Hardy puts himself over and says that the Hardyz never won because they were missing Mattitude and Shannon Moore. This could put over Moore big as he could be seen as the new Jeff Hardy, gaining heel heat from replacing him, but gaining secret little girl fandom from being the new Jeff Hardy. Edge and Christian setup the spot that won them the titles and neither wants to grab first. Christian looks as if he's gonna push Edge off to celebrate by himself but hugs him and they pull the tag belts together.

 

Double Elimination Four Corners:

The Rock vs. The Hurricane vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Rob Van Dam

RVD (now a heel) cheats to pin Hurricane. Shawn comes in and pins RVD. Shawn and Hurricane fly around and do a good face vs. face part of the match but then The Rock tags in Michaels and gives Hurricane Rock Bottom to eliminate him. Michaels sticks up for Hurricane and gives Rock an elimination by superkicking him. RVD comes in and cheats to pin Shawn. Rock hits the RB on Shawn while mad and RVD pins again to eliminate Shawn. Now it's to see who can cheat better and RVD wins becoming more of a heel with Rock turning face again.

 

WWE Intercontinental Title:

Booker T def. Goldust

Goldust comes back from the rehab and is now cured of whatever he had before and talks about it with Coach. Coach mentions Booker T and Dust says Booker's always been a softie and doesn't have a hard bone in his body. Coach makes a weird face cuz of the innuendo. Dust says he wants to bring Booker back to reality. Meanwhile, Booker T joins with Teddy Long (Mack is released). He says that the WWE is out to make his life hell because they made the US title to take away his spotlight (even though he wins it after it's decided and Long gets it vacated and retired) and that they want Booker to have nothing to do with anything US related but would rather have him hold the Onecontinental title. He faces Goldust and wins with Long interference but feels bad after and sidekicks Long and joins back with Goldust.

 

Eddy Guerrero and Rhyno def. Billy Kidman and Rey Jr.

Eddy enlists the service of a bodyguard, Rhyno and he takes on his two top contenders for the lightweight title (save the tears, if Eddy holds it, the title will get bigger like with Matt and Rey) Rey and Kidman have the friendly advantage but Rhyno gores both of them at once and lets Eddy get the pin.

 

Future vs. The Past:

Randy Orton w/Kevin Nash def. Ric Flair

As much as I don't want to, Orton gets a rub to get him over and this is Flair's final appearance. Randy Orton ends up in Mr. High and Mighty's chapter of nobodies and he can choke on it. Nash does the interviews for Orton and stuff.

 

Women's Championship 6 Way:

Trish Stratus def. Victoria, Jazz, Ivory, Molly, and Lita

Victoria and Jazz are involved in that lesbian angle without any actual lesbian activities (Victoria the lipstick, Jazz the butch) and help out each other but Victoria's still psycho and win Jazz tries to win, starts whipping her on the ass with a strap. Lita tries a rana on Ivory and gets powerbombed. Ivory DDT's Molly who tries to help Lita. Trish gives Ivory the stratusfaction to win.

 

Hardcore Battle Royal (WM 2000-ish with no title):

Winner= A-Train

Participants: A-Train, Big Show, John Cena, Chuck Palumbo, Johnny Stamboli, Rikishi, O'Haire, Al Snow, Maven, Rosey, Steiner, Richards, Test, and Dreamer

[Guest JMA]

Of course you did...EVERYONE perfers there card...cept for mine...My card blew ass chunks.

 

I'ma do a new one shortly...

I know that. But I still think mine rules. We should have someone rate our cards.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Notice only one person thinks Goldberg will even last until Mania and no one has the Bah God future of the WWE, Randy Orton on their cards

I put Fuck Goldberg on my card and I'm one of his biggest... Er... Non-fans.

[Guest Mattdotcom]

If you want someone to rate the cards, JMA, I just devised a way to do it. By using the points system (i.e. 1/1, 1/2, 9/14-basically a point for what I think is a good idea), I could take the final score, let's say it was 7/16 and get a percentage from it. The person(s) with the highest percentage(s) win. I'm only volunteering because I haven't even attempted to book WM XX. Oh, I'll also keep everyone's scores, except for the winner(s) private.

[Guest bob_barron]

I like my card the best.

Your card has Christian facing The Rock.

 

CHRISTIAN!

 

I cannot endorse any card like that.

[Guest Choken One]

Wrestlemania XX

Madison square garden

March 28th 2004

 

National Anthem Performed By:

Mariah Carey

 

Cruiserweight Title Match

Ultimo Dragon © Vs Rey Mysterio Jr

 

 

Rhyno Vs Edge

 

 

I .C Title Match

Randy Orton © Vs Rob Van Dam

 

 

WWE Tag Team Title Match

The Best Damn Tag Team Period © Vs Tajiri and Funaki

 

 

Eddy Guerrero Vs Spanky

 

 

United States Title Match

John Cena Vs Matt Hardy ©

 

 

World Title Match

Triple H © Vs Chris Jericho

 

 

***Half-Time Show***

Performence by: Disturbed

 

Last Man Standing

The Undertaker Vs Sean O Haire

 

 

I Quit Match

Chris Benoit Vs The Rock

 

 

Woman's Title Match

Trish Status Vs Gail Kim ©

 

 

ICON Vs ICON

Stone Cold Steve Austin Vs Hulk Hogan

 

 

World Tag Title Match

Christian and Lance Storm © Vs Tommy Dreamer and Al Snow

 

WWE Title Match

Brock Lesnar © Vs Kurt Angle

 

 

*-Booker is "injured" and thus misses WMXX (I.E I couldn't think of SINGLE damn person to stick him with)...

[Adam 0]

I kinda like that, except for Mariah Carey.

[Guest Choken One]

Well...I am not fond of Her either but she seems to be the essistaial diva for A HUGE show to put on the spot...

 

I'd dig if they had Monica or Beyonce dig it rather...

[Guest Plushy Al Logan]

RAW Championship Match:

Kane vs. HHH

Hey this has got to go somewhere, Kane puts on a hockey mask and murders the entire roster with a machette, and................ aw fuck HHH will win any way.

 

Smackdown:

Brock vs. Benoit vs. Angle

I'm not really sure how it would come to this, but I want to see it.

 

Retirement shoot Mess:

Hulk Hogan vs. The Undertaker

As much as I like both guys, one of them has got to go, prerably the Taker.

 

La Resistance vs. The Dudleyz

What other important tag team is there on Smackdown.

 

Undertaker vs. The F.B.I., John Cena, Natural Disasters Version 2.0 the Basham Bros., & Rhyno

Come on Taker has to have his annual squash match

 

I.C. Title

Booker T. vs. Randy Orton

Orton gets crammed down our throats again.

 

Cruiserwieght Title:

Rey Mysterio vs. Ultimo dragon

See Smackdown Championship

 

 

Heat:

 

 

A.P.A & Nathan Jones beat up a couple of jobbers.

 

Women's Title Match:

Like I give a shit.

[Guest Choken One]

^ JESUS that card sucked Floppy Dick.

[Guest justcoz]

Make Wrestlemania Smackdown vs. Raw... The only supercard of the year...

 

John Cena vs. Eminem (it's called mainstream pub) and Cena gets to live up to his MSG Smackdown promise of main eventing Wrestlemania

 

Brock Lesnar (WWE Champion) vs. Goldberg (World Champion)

 

The Rock (in heel character) vs. Kurt Angle w/ Bruno Sammartino as special guest referee (everybody's got a price and it's MSG)

 

Fatal Three Way

Matt Hardy (US Champion) vs. Rob Van Dam (IC Champion) vs. Shane Helms (dropping the Hurricane gimmick by this time and working as a heel w/ Teddy Long)

 

Chris Jericho and Chris Benoit vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. and Ultimo Dragon

 

DX vs. The Outsiders

Shawn Michaels and Triple H vs. Scott Hall and Kevin Nash

 

WWE Tribute: Bret The Hitman Hart

 

Booker T and Sting vs. Eddie Guerrerro and Shawn Ohaire

 

Best Damn Tag Team Period (WWE Tag Champions) vs. Lance Storm and Christian (World Tag Team Champions)

 

Edge vs. Randy Orton

 

Mick Foley vs. Ric Flair Street Fight

 

Old Timers Battle Royal w/ Sgt Slaughter, Superfly Snuka, Dusty Rhodes, Iron Sheik, Bob Backlund, King Kong Bundy, Ricky Steamboat, Don Muraco, Rocky Johnson, Tony Atlas, Larry Zbysko, Michael Hayes and others...

 

Bring Back Jesse Ventura on color for the night... If Bobby The Brain makes it, he and Gene Okerlund host a red carpet type ceremony...

 

PITTSBURGH NET RADIO

[Guest Choken One]

^ That's just about as bad as the one before...

 

WM sells on its own...

 

The inter-promotional card can be saved for ANY ppv...

 

Don't tarnish the legancy with a PPV Gimmick

[Guest justcoz]

Yeah, this past Wrestlemania sold incredibly well on it's own...

 

Why save an interpromotional thing for "any" PPV. Isn't Wrestlemania supposed to be the biggest PPV? That's been it's selling point since Wrestlemania 1 and you are talking about the 20th anniversary here.

 

I just think the regular matches would be better saved for "any" PPV. Wrestlemania should be a supercard. A World Series or Superbowl of sorts. Not the place where people pay $40+ to see the same type of matches they'd get at Vengence.

 

PITTSBURGH NET RADIO

[Guest bob_barron]

Actually Wrestlemania I wasn't a PPV.

 

But anywho-

 

Doing RAW v. Smackdown matches is a very stupid idea. First of all- it's not that big of an appeal to the viewer.

 

No one cared when they did it at King of the Ring, Summerslam or the Royal Rumble.

 

This is Wrestlemania- You don't gimmick the card up. Wrestlemania XX is going to draw anyway- why blow your load on a show that will draw anyway?

[Guest justcoz]

To make it all the more special and showcase the best of your talent in matches fans wouldn't see anywhere else. Using your talent in unique matches isn't gimmicking a card up. Ladder matches, Hell In the Cells, etc. would be doing that. Do they charge fans more for Wrestlemania? I believe they do. Would seeing matches that you wouldn't see at all again during the course of the year attract people to order the PPV? I believe so. The last thing this company should be doing at this point is assuming that anything when it comes to their product sells itself.

 

Plus, let's not even mention when that this would coincide with February sweeps television rating wise and some (not many) crossover television appearances could be made from talent between shows.

 

If it fails... then they don't do it again... Simple as that.... Say it was a one time thing to make Wrestlemania 20 special...

 

And I know Wrestlemania 1 wasn't a PPV. I was at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena watching static for two hours before they told us that there would be no satellite feed. They ended up showing it for free on television one week later...

[Guest bob_barron]

Wrestlemania should be a time when long term feuds are ended.

 

If you do a RAW v. Smackdown show then your only getting a months worth of storytelling at best. Since this is the 20th Wrestlemania- I don't want to see one months worth of storytelling.

 

And the times they've done RAW v. SD!- It really hasn't drawn much interest. What makes you think it will work at the biggest show of the year?

[Guest justcoz]

The point you make about Wrestlemania being sort of an "end of a chapter" to storylines, feuds, etc. is good. I agree. That's what it always seemed like. The television that followed Wrestlemania consisted of a new batch of feuds and storylines.

 

However, we all know how bad creative is in the WWE right now. Do you honestly think that they are going to book sensible storylines with the point being for WRestlemania to be the finale? Even if they did injuries come into play. Look at what almost happened at this past Wrestlemania with Angle and Lesnar. We almost didn't get the match.

 

With monthly PPV's, even split among the brands, being nothing more than more expensive versions of Raw and Smackdown - I just feel Wrestlemania should be different.

 

Do I know that Raw vs. Smackdown matches would work or draw interest? No. Nobody here is buying into it and you've brought up past examples.

 

Has there been anything of the magnitude of Brock vs. Goldberg though? And have any of the prior matches been built up as if it was a supercard?

 

Remember Supercards? How magazines like Pro Wrestling Illustrated went ape shit over booking? Well, to break the monotony of the same people vs. the same people, I think that's what Wrestlemania needs.

 

I wouldn't save it for another PPV. This is the biggest one of all. There are things that have to be considered. How to keep the brands seperate but build interest in these matches. Like I said, you can have a few crossover appearances between shows but a lot of it can be done with video production and packages (ie the Rock/Brock training from Summerslam) and Confidential like pieces as opposed to in the ring angles.

 

There was a time that when you were building towards a dream match, you didn't get to see them on television in tag matches, six mans, etc. as teases. It was all mic work to promote and when they faced each other in the ring - it meant more because you were seeing it pretty much for the first time.

 

Could my card be tweaked - yes. I still stand by the concept though no matter how many of you say it sucks...

[Adam 0]

Wrestlemania should be a time when long term feuds are ended.

Or, as with last year, they are thrown together a month earlier.

 

900th Post! YES!

[Guest alkeiper]

My Wrestlemania XX. I didn't pay attention to brands for the most part, since wrestlers can be traded from show to show to suit.

 

Smackdown Title Match

Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit

 

Raw Title Match

HHH vs. Brock Lesnar

 

Steve Austin vs. Hulk Hogan

 

The Rock vs. John Cena

 

The Undertaker vs. Goldberg

 

(Undertaker puts his 11-0 streak on the line)

 

Rob Van Dam vs. Matt Hardy

 

Edge vs. Chris Jericho

 

Tag Title Matches

Haas/Benjamin vs. Booker/Goldust

 

Los Guerreros vs. Hurricane/HBK

 

Street Fight

Mick Foley vs. Randy Orton

 

Crusierweight Title Match

Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Ultimo Dragon

 

Guilty pleasures portion of the card.

 

Iron-Table Match

Bubba Ray vs. D-Von

(Most table spots in 10 minutes wins)

 

Celebrity Battle Royal

20 celebrities from past Wrestlemanias return

[Adam 0]

Bookerdust Can not unite.

[Guest JMA]

If you want someone to rate the cards, JMA, I just devised a way to do it. By using the points system (i.e. 1/1, 1/2, 9/14-basically a point for what I think is a good idea), I could take the final score, let's say it was 7/16 and get a percentage from it. The person(s) with the highest percentage(s) win. I'm only volunteering because I haven't even attempted to book WM XX. Oh, I'll also keep everyone's scores, except for the winner(s) private.

Go for it. I nominate you as the official card rater.

[Guest bob_barron]

Bookerdust Can not unite.

They've teamed together twice since they've supposedely "broken up".

[Guest alkeiper]

I just figure the team was highly popular, I needed a face team, and I didn't have a good singles match for him.

[Guest Trivia247]

in No discernable order...

 

Hulk Hogan vs Roddy Piper

(In a Loser leave town without getting trashed on WWE TV match)

 

Ultimo Dragon vs Rey Mystero vs Tajiri vs Jamie Noble

for the Cruiserweight Championship

 

20 man Battle royal for low-midcarders

Dreamer, Rikishi, Nowinski, Maven, Funaki, A-Train, Kendrick, Al Snow, Billy Gunn, Lance Storm, Nathan Jones, Bill Demott, Goldust, Hurricane, Val Venis, Shannon Moore, Sean O`haire, Chris Kanyon, Orlando Jones, Steven Richards

(winner gets to be pushed beyond belief and cannot be a Hoss, so Atrain gets eliminated first)

 

Jazz vs Gail Kim

Complete Puro moveset womens match

Womens title

 

Undertaker vs Kane

(Inferno match, Kane's face gets burned and he has to wear the mask again.)

 

Kevin Nash vs Test

(Career vs Personality match)

 

Goldberg vs whomever is the IC Champ

(Cuz dont want him being World champ)

 

Best damn Tag team Period vs Eddy & Chavo

(Best damn tag team Title match period!)

 

Dudley Boys vs Whomevers Raw tag champ at the time.

 

Chris Jericho vs Booker T vs RVD vs HHH

(World Championship Elimination handicap three on one match)

 

Chris Benoit vs Kurt Angle vs Brock Lensar

(World Championship triple threat)

[Guest JMA]

Your card has Christian facing The Rock.

 

CHRISTIAN!

 

I cannot endorse any card like that.

It's not Christian's fault the WWE has all heels use rest-holds.

[Guest bob_barron]

That's not true and yes it is Christian's fault if all he can do is choke people

[Adam 0]

Bookerdust Can not unite.

They've teamed together twice since they've supposedely "broken up".

Good point, but I meant that they can't unite for a full time tag program again. Booker needs to build his stock up and then get (finally) a World Title run.

[Guest Choken One]

^ For Mania?

 

God No.

 

He isn't THAT good enough to be the Champion for WMXX...

 

I'll take HHH, Jericho, RVD over Booker.