Could somebody please write a letter why Big Show

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I remember some guy writing a letter to Vince McMahon on here about the last RAW, mostly about Kane. It was pretty funny, I was hoping that same person or whoever could write one why Big Show needs to be removed. Not only will add more interested to fans ordering the PPV, but its simply just a good business decision, something you would expect McMahon not to fuck up on.

[Guest CanadianChick]

I don't really care, actually. He's just there to job anyways.

[Guest Choken One]

Exactly. His presence is there to merely to build the tension for Summerslam with the screwy Roll over pin.

 

IT'S THE ONLY WAY to FINISH THE MATCH.

[Guest Zero_Cool]

In a logical world, I think he's throwing Big Show in so he can lose to Lesnar. I also think he wants Angle and Lesnar both 100 percent for the rematch, which I guess will now be at Summerslam.

 

But again, that's using logic.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Apparantly, at this point, its seems WWE is almost certainly banking on HHH / Goldberg to main event SS. Angle / Lesnar deserve better.

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

Apparantly, at this point, its seems WWE is almost certainly banking on HHH / Goldberg to main event SS. Angle / Lesnar deserve better.

I think that S.S is gonna need a main event calibre match from each brand. It is, after all, the second biggest show of the year.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Apparantly, at this point, its seems WWE is almost certainly banking on HHH / Goldberg to main event SS. Angle / Lesnar deserve better.

I don't think that's for sure. Angle/Brock has MUCH more build than HHH/Goldberg. And, according to Linda McMahon herself, Goldberg has been a dissappointment. Why would you want a disappointment main eventing your second biggest PPV? And where did you get this from? Did you just make it up?

[Guest Anglesault]

Personally, I think inserting Big Shit into the match DESTROYS the Vengeance buyrate. But if they don't care and are just going for Summerslam, I guess it's a necessary evil.

 

HOWEVER

 

If this doesn't main Summerslam, than they've ruined everything and this whole program is worthless.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I don't think that's for sure. Angle/Brock has MUCH more build than HHH/Goldberg. And, according to Linda McMahon herself, Goldberg has been a dissappointment. Why would you want a disappointment main eventing your second biggest PPV? And where did you get this from? Did you just make it up?

 

The official website of the America West Arena, where SS is being held this year, is advertising HHH / Goldberg as one of the most anticipated matches of the year. And like Anglesault was saying, RAW has only main evented 2 PPVs this year so no doubt HHH will bump Lesnar's match down to get another one for the HHH show.

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

Given that Brock-Angle headlined Wrestlemania and that the WWE obviously wants to get as much out of Fuck Goldberg as possible, it makes sense that they might highlight SS with HHH-Coldbeer.

 

As for the Big Show, I think the fans buy him as a legit heel contender on Smackdown due to his pretty strong feud with Brock, and inserting him in the match improves the face/heel dynamic and saves Brock/Angle for SS.

[Guest Choken One]

Enough with the lame nicknames for Bill Goldberg.

 

Greenberg

Goldturd

Coldbeer

Dungberg

Steve Austin

 

GOLDBERG is all you need to say to showcase his utter humilating protrayal of an "PROFESSIONAL" "WRESTLER".

[Guest Anglesault]

Given that Brock-Angle headlined Wrestlemania and that the WWE obviously wants to get as much out of Fuck Goldberg as possible, it makes sense that they might highlight SS with HHH-Coldbeer.

 

As for the Big Show, I think the fans buy him as a legit heel contender on Smackdown due to his pretty strong feud with Brock, and inserting him in the match improves the face/heel dynamic and saves Brock/Angle for SS.

If it's not gonna main, I can't think of one reason to put it on Summerslam. It's wasted in any other role

[Guest Choken One]

Remember...We're expecting a HEEL turn...with Lesnar leaving with the title...

 

WWE history shows the HEEL never walks out with the title under screwy circumstances when it's avoidable (some notable exceptions however)

 

So that means no Main event for Brock-Angle II.

 

Which also means Goldberg goes over...Damn.

[Guest bravesfan]

And like Anglesault was saying, RAW has only main evented 2 PPVs this year so no doubt HHH will bump Lesnar's match down to get another one for the HHH show.

Buyrates are down this year, for the most part. Why would HHH want to put himself at the top of the card, where he's liable to criticism from management for a bad buyrate?

 

Let Trips drive said babyface back down to the midcard, while keeping his title, while giving the main event slot to Angle/Lesnar. HHH has been happy with this role so far this year.

[Guest Anglesault]

Remember...We're expecting a HEEL turn...with Lesnar leaving with the title...

 

WWE history shows the HEEL never walks out with the title under screwy circumstances when it's avoidable (some notable exceptions however)

 

So that means no Main event for Brock-Angle II.

So, why exactly do we want this to be on Sumerslam?

[Guest Choken One]

Because it's clear they are going Benoit/Rhyno I Quit for Summer Slam...

 

and that the tension erupts between Angle and Lesnar at Vengence...Thus giving us the HUGE REMATCH! Lesnar grows paranoid and re-hires Paul Heyman and turns at Slam...setting up the Long NWA style chase for the gold for Mania for Angle.

[Guest Anglesault]

Because it's clear they are going Benoit/Rhyno I Quit for Summer Slam...

And?

 

and that the tension erupts between Angle and Lesnar at Vengence...Thus giving us the HUGE REMATCH!

 

Which shouldn't be anything but the main event of a PPV. If that won't happen at Summerslam, than the match shouldn't happen at Summerslam.

[Guest Choken One]

Because it's clear they are going Benoit/Rhyno I Quit for Summer Slam...

And?

 

and that the tension erupts between Angle and Lesnar at Vengence...Thus giving us the HUGE REMATCH!

 

Which shouldn't be anything but the main event of a PPV. If that won't happen at Summerslam, than the match shouldn't happen at Summerslam.

That means No Brock/Benoit or Rhyno and No Angle Vs Benoit or Rhyno...

 

Unless you want Lesnar Vs SOH and Angle Vs TBS....

 

 

You better want Lesnar/Angle II at Summer Slam...

[Guest Anglesault]

Unless you want Lesnar Vs SOH and Angle Vs TBS....

Lesnar/Angle vs. TBDTTP in the next to last match.

 

You better want Lesnar/Angle II at Summer Slam...

 

Not if it won't main. No point of doing the match in a non-main. It's a waste

[Guest Choken One]

Bret/Owen didn't Headline SummerSlam but that didn't hurt the match or the storyline...

 

The same deal here AS.

[Guest Anglesault]

Bret/Owen didn't Headline SummerSlam but that didn't hurt the match or the storyline...

 

The same deal here AS.

Honestly, I can't think of one notable thing Owen did after Summerslam 94.

 

And so what? Do you deny that the match would be even more special as a main? Good is good. Better is better.

 

In Mania, you can get away with throwing it next to last and it will still be just as special because the show itself makes everything more special.

 

Summerslam doesn't have that Midas touch.

[Guest Choken One]

Owen ruined Bret's title run by screwing him again...Realized his dream by winning WWE gold...Was a MAJOR Heel with the Cornette Camp...Had a GREAT tag team run with Bulldog...Involved in one of the greatest angles of all time and had a good face run after that ruined by politics and sadly fell under the radar as an mid-carder and returned to tag team glory but we know it ended.

 

Pretty Notable shit there.

 

The Match would have been NO different..emotional or otherwise if it fucking Jerked the show.

 

Summer Slam doesn't have the midas Touch?

 

How come HBK/HHH was more revered then the Rock/Brock Main last year?

 

Austin/Angle over Rock/Booker.

 

TLC Over Rock/HHH/Angle.

 

Test/Shane over Three Way.

 

Rock/HHH over UT/Austin.

 

Owen/Austin over UT/Hart.

 

1996 sucked.

 

Shawn/Razor over Nash/Mabel.

 

Owen/Bret over UT/UT.

 

No HUGE match but they were better then the Main.

 

1992 is the BIGGEST exception.

 

Hart/Perfect over Match Made in Hell (truth in advertising)

 

in 1990...The Main was Warrior/Rude but the REAL headline was Hogan/Earthquake and that was placed NEXT to last...Also...Hart/Demo stole the show anyways.

 

1989 and 1988 were duds save for BOTH Hart foundation matches

 

So that proves a match can still be great and special even if it isn't the Main event...

 

SummerSlam has HISTORICALLY shown this.

Edited July 6, 2003 by Choken One

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Lesnar grows paranoid and re-hires Paul Heyman

 

The LAST thing he needs to do is get back with Paul Heyman. If that does happen (God, I hope not), it would prove the complete idiocy that are the WWE creative teams.

 

How come HBK/HHH was more revered then the Rock/Brock Main last year?

 

Probably because it was HBK's return match who hadn't wrestled for 4 years. Anyway Rock/Brock in my mind proved to better and is arguably the best SummerSlam main event to date.

 

Test/Shane over Three Way.

 

I don't believe it, nothing memorable about it except for Shane's insane bump which he outdid at Backlash 2 years later.

 

Rock/HHH over UT/Austin.

 

Alright I'll admit that, but UT/Austin was certainly worthy of a WM main event spot given the build-up it received and in my mind was the best match of their entire feud. I was marking out for Undertaker to win.

 

1996 sucked.

 

By all means, the Boiler Room Brawl (the first I believe) was more enjoyable than Michaels/Vader even though I was marking for Vader to win.

 

[Guest Choken One]

Test/Shane was still the main thing people remember bout Summerslam 1999...

 

Hart/Perfect was better at KOTR93 but that doesn't mean the SS91 match was great and special in the same accord...

 

Lesnar/Rock might have been more good for some but HHH/HBK was still the big match people still talk about...the 02 main is more known for the rock heel reaction and the first Lesnar face reaction.

[Guest Anglesault]

Owen ruined Bret's title run by screwing him again...Realized his dream by winning WWE gold...Was a MAJOR Heel with the Cornette Camp...Had a GREAT tag team run with Bulldog...Involved in one of the greatest angles of all time and had a good face run after that ruined by politics and sadly fell under the radar as an mid-carder and returned to tag team glory but we know it ended.

Besides ending the Bret reign, I see a lot of tag and group stuff. Not much for Owen himself.

 

How come HBK/HHH was more revered then the Rock/Brock Main last year?

 

It was a better match! And no one talks about that match anymore anyway.

 

Austin/Angle over Rock/Booker.

 

That was a stupid and asinine booking move. I still haven't figured that one out.

 

And you just named matches that were better than the main (With notable exceptions). That isn't specific to any PPV, Summerslam included.

 

That's like saying NWO is special because there is aways a match or two better than the main.

 

The Mania Midas touch shows a match like Y2J/HBK, 87 matches from the top, and it STILL has that special, historic feel.

 

So that proves a match can still be great and special even if it isn't the Main event...

 

And it can be even more special as the main.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Test/Shane was still the main thing people remember bout Summerslam 1999...

 

No way, Mick Foley finally the WWF Championship on a PPV (a HUGE PPV at that) was certainly more memorable along with Jesse Ventura being involved.

 

Lesnar/Rock might have been more good for some but HHH/HBK was still the big match people still talk about...the 02 main is more known for the rock heel reaction and the first Lesnar face reaction.

 

It also proved Lesnar was worthy of being a main eventer given his wrestling skills.

[Guest Choken One]

"And you just named matches that were better than the main (With notable exceptions). That isn't specific to any PPV, Summerslam included.

 

That's like saying NWO is special because there is aways a match or two better than the main."

 

 

You said prior that SS doesn't have that Midas touch to make Non-Main events more special...when that list clearly showed that almost every Slam has shown that a match is Special without getting the main event...

[Guest Anglesault]

Almost every PPV does that. Not at all specific to Summerslam and not at all like Mania.

 

HHH/Shawn has already been forgotten.

[Guest Choken One]

Test/Shane was still the main thing people remember bout Summerslam 1999...

 

No way, Mick Foley finally the WWF Championship on a PPV (a HUGE PPV at that) was certainly more memorable along with Jesse Ventura being involved.

 

Finally? It was his 2nd or 3rd reign at that point...He wasn't even a factor pretty much in the storylines and was rushed into to pet Austin's ego....Not like it was the triumphant blowoff to an long journey for the title...(that was Dec. 28th 1998)

 

Not to mention he dropped the title like a BAD BAD BAD habit the very next night.

[Guest JaKyL25]

I took that sentence to mean that it was the first time that Foley won the title on a PPV, which would be accurate, but I can't see how it was super-special.

 

In hindsight, the three-way Main of Summerslam '99 was better than the Shane vs. Test match. The Test match was just bigger at the time because it was different, and plus no one even had a clue yet that Shane was that psycho.

 

And what AS is trying to convey is that YES, those matches are special, but they are by-and-large forgotten about or at least on a lower-tier of memorable wrestling moments because Summerslam just doesn't have the "It" factor of WrestleMania. Sure, people have fond memories of HHH vs. HBK or the Boiler Room Brawl. But imagine if those EXACT same matches occurred at a WrestleMania. They'd be practically legendary, just based on the WrestleMania stigma.

 

Summerslam doesn't have that stigma, as witnessed by the fact that these matches aren't thought of very much. Ergo, AS wants Angle vs. Lesnar to be the Main Event, because the main event of ANY PPV has at least a bit of a memorable stigma to it that the undercard doesn't have.

 

Not to argue either way. Just trying to help get across what people seem to not be getting.

I will say that no matter what the ending to the matches are, I'd rather cap the night off with Angle vs. Lesnar than HHH vs. Goldberg. Wouldn't you?