Guest JangoFett4Hire Report post Posted July 10, 2003 NORFOLK, Va. (AP) Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson accused President Bush of ''undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels'' by asking Liberian President Charles Taylor, recently indicted for war crimes, to step down. ''How dare the president of the United States say to the duly elected president of another country, 'You've got to step down,''' Robertson said Monday on ''The 700 Club,'' broadcast from his Christian Broadcasting Network. ''It's one thing to say, we will give you money if you step down and we will give you troops if you step down, but just to order him to step down? He doesn't work for us.'' Silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted July 10, 2003 Wow, I'm totally not surprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Report post Posted July 10, 2003 Good ol' zany Pat... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2003 Ya gotta love those zany Christians Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted July 10, 2003 pat robertson is the 'showgirls' of tv personalities. everything that comes out of his mouth is so gloriously bad it somehow becomes a twisted sort of poetry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted July 10, 2003 Ya gotta love those zany Christians Fundies. Those zany fundies. Some of us Christians have a decent head on our shoulders and stay out of politics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted July 10, 2003 Ya gotta love those zany Christians Fundies. Those zany fundies. Some of us Christians have a decent head on our shoulders and stay out of politics. Exactly. Pat Robertson is to Christians what Jerry Springer is to Democratic Senate hopefuls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted July 10, 2003 Democrats have to take as much responsibility for creating the atmosphere in which the likes of Jerry Springer can become even halfway serious candidates as Christians have to take for creating the atmosphere in which the "fundies" are treated even halfway seriously by anyone, anyone at all. And conservatives have to take responsibility for the likes of Michael Savage. Don't try to pretend that assholes like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell have nothing to do with Christianity, because they do. They are products of Christianity, flawed and disgusting products, the eczema of the Bible (which itself contains entire books which are shitholes of immorality and barbarism and sadistic cruelty), but products of it nevertheless. Denying it and trying to insert an imaginary separation that disavows any and all responsibility just makes people look ridiculous. Like delusional naifs at best, and conscienceless liars at worst. Almost like Moslems, come to think of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted July 10, 2003 Democrats have to take as much responsibility for creating the atmosphere in which the likes of Jerry Springer can become even halfway serious candidates as Christians have to take for creating the atmosphere in which the "fundies" are treated even halfway seriously by anyone, anyone at all. And conservatives have to take responsibility for the likes of Michael Savage. And we have to deal with the responsibilities of Robert Byrd. We all have our (ahem) crosses to bear. Even if some of them are on fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted July 11, 2003 I wasn't attempting to disavow responsibility, for there is none to disavow. I have no personal responsibility to Robertson, Falwell, or anyone else I am not personally involved with. I'm not a part of his denomination, I tithe no funds to anything he is associated with, and very likely disagree with him/them on many things. Myself, nor my denomination have any responsibility to disavow. One of the first things to be learned as a Christian is that God is a personal God. He deals with you, and you with Him. The sins of others are not yours to carry with you. What the fundies do, the fundies do. What other Christians do, other Christians do. I wouldn't hold, say, JMA, personally responsible, or the liberal people group personally responsible, for the actions of one prominent figure. I find that stupid and childish. I don't deal with cliques. I deal with people. Individuals. Extremism and hardcore fundamentalism is not a product of the Grace that I know. So no, I am not personally responsible, nor are any of the Christians I am affiliated with, for the words, beliefs, and/or actions of any fundamentalist Christian figure. You, of course, have every right to attempt to apply it to me and/or all Christians if you want. Your judgement means nothing in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ronixis Report post Posted July 11, 2003 There is only one thing that article says to me- We got a Schism in our hands, folks. The Neo-Con's and the Christian Right. It's going to be fun if your a Democrat to see this unfold. Somebody has just set the "Oops- Did I say that?" Bomb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cancer Marney Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Taken to NHB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted July 11, 2003 Oh my lord. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted July 11, 2003 If Taylor does step down, who would be replacing him? Robertson is a nut, but would is replacement be any better? I'm not really up on Liberia, so I don't know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tyler McClelland Report post Posted July 11, 2003 It would be a nation building experiment by the UN and/or the US. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest deadbeater Report post Posted July 13, 2003 Cancer, the atheists are responsible for Stalin and communism, and the jews for Meir Kahane...do you really want to go on that road? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crazy Dan Report post Posted July 13, 2003 And the Catholic religion is responsible for the Spanish Inquistition and the Christianity is responsible for the Crusades. Just thought I add that before we get into a complete bashing. I think that religion and non religious sectors have been responsible for some of the more nastier events in History. Just because one has beliefs in a certain thing, doesn't juststify the worse which has been done under it's name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites