Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted July 15, 2003 Triple H won't be on RAW because he's fighting Maven. HHH sucks because the champion should be wrestling on RAW. WWE sucks at the stuff they're doing with Kane. Ugh they're so unbelievably crappy. Triple H did more than an injured guy needed to do in a six man especially having fought the same night as well. The lack of makeup is on purpose to set up a storyline I'm really interested in now. Any more instances of smark assumption? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 15, 2003 No one ever said HHH was a pussy or he wouldn't go out there and work hard. He hasn't been too lazy in a while now. Kane setting JR on fire? What's next him striking lightning from the sky? Oh , wait, that's been done. I am interested, but this is far from breathtaking stuff. Your analogies do not match up, and this post was pointless. Put this in NHB before people get banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 15, 2003 I guess he was trying to make a point that We Smarks overguess and over speculate... Makes sense...he just didn't execute it right... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 15, 2003 Not right at all. Game, your main point is that hey, you guys said it was bad, but I liked it! You're covering no new ground here, and everyone will bring up the same points over and over again that they have been since these angles began to thwart your enjoyment. You can't sweep in a degenerating folder and turn everybody around, face it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted July 15, 2003 "Jumping the Gun" isn't really too hard a stretch here, since the booking is so predictible. What I hate is the SmarkHype game, where someone like Gail Kim or Zach Gowan is pushed to the moon by the people who track the indy shit and then they come into WWE and impress not an iota. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 15, 2003 Kim has not been impressive, but I see talent in Spanky, and Gowan is remarkable, just booked HORRIBLY. These guys can be fit into roles in the WWE, but you can't expect someone who garners big interest in the Indies to come in and blow the WWE away and get booked/pushed well. NEVER gonna happen. Bad booking and getting jobbed out quickly fails to impress anyone. If you ask me, it's not thier fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted July 15, 2003 Kane setting JR on fire? What's next him striking lightning from the sky? Oh , wait, that's been done. I am interested, but this is far from breathtaking stuff. I bet Kane will be reborn in the Flames of Brimstone & Hellfire then change his name to Pheonix or something similiar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 15, 2003 I had a smile on my face with the way they were going with it (JR acknowledging the lack of burns) but they ruined it. then you had JR giving the lifelss expression, making it seem as if he were actualy dead. This can only get better, if you ask me. And it needs to, fast. This angle was a step forward, and two steps back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2003 This is quite the pointless thread. Who cares? Saying HHH won't be on RAW because of an injury isn't a dumb assumption. He was on RAW, but it's not a stretch to think that he wouldn't be there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DerangedHermit Report post Posted July 15, 2003 Good Idea: JR acknowledging Kane's lack of burns Bad Idea: JR acknowledging his own "burns" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted July 15, 2003 No one ever said HHH was a pussy or he wouldn't go out there and work hard. He hasn't been too lazy in a while now. Kane setting JR on fire? What's next him striking lightning from the sky? Oh , wait, that's been done. I am interested, but this is far from breathtaking stuff. Your analogies do not match up, and this post was pointless. Put this in NHB before people get banned. Actually yeah plenty of people did. He's a burn victim in his mind. The setting JR on fire is supposed to be part of his mental trauma. The lightning and supernatural Kane has nothing to do with this. Where did I make analogies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted July 15, 2003 Not right at all. Game, your main point is that hey, you guys said it was bad, but I liked it! You're covering no new ground here, and everyone will bring up the same points over and over again that they have been since these angles began to thwart your enjoyment. You can't sweep in a degenerating folder and turn everybody around, face it. Actually no, seemingly everyone has gotten the point of this thread. It's in the TITLE for pete's sake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 15, 2003 Basically you said the smarks said this...... but this happened. (meaning I used a bad word choice). Problem is, they didn't match up. HHH sucks beause the champion should be on raw - HHH did more than he had to? And that Heat was taped from LAST WEEK's RAW. He did not fight twice. Then you say Smarks say the Kane Angle was crappy - this week I'M interested. You basically say you were one of the "smarks" and now you've turned. If you think the JR fiasco was great, fine. I liked the interview up until the B special effects. That is all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 15, 2003 No they haven't, most called it pointless or stated you didn't make much sense. Are you just reading what you want to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted July 15, 2003 You said I was trying to distance myself from the crowd by saying I liked it and no one else did when in fact I was stating how it's obvious some people jumped the gun. HHH and Maven was taped with last week's RAW? Too bad I can't find the RAW results with matching dark matches and HeAT tapings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 15, 2003 Unless I'm mistaken, doesn't HAET get taped before the RAW, and it airs 6 days later? People may have jumped the gun, but my point was your countering was off. Your reasoning was that you liked it and everyone else said it would suck. If your statement would have been that everyone thought YOU thought it would suck and YOU didn't think it did, it would match up. Basically I'm asking if you really enjoyed the Kane segment (burning JR and all) and can you at least see why people would be aggrevated at the fact that this 1998esqu angle shooting is still around? Didn't necrophilia teach them anything? Kane deserves better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted July 15, 2003 Oh yeah you're right about HeAT. That much I will say. I forgot what day HeAT was on so my fault there and I missed last week's RAW so I got confused. Nonetheless my point was, people jumped the gun about WWE fucking up Kane's appearance and it was done for a purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted July 15, 2003 Nonetheless my point was, people jumped the gun about WWE fucking up Kane's appearance and it was done for a purpose. Nah. Someone was writing on their napkin 20 minutes before RAW started and they came up with this whole "mental, not physical burns" angle and they went with that. Im sure if they hadn't been thinking hard enough we probably would have gotten "Kane went to an expensive plastic surgeon the day before his match with HHH and had his face fixed" and then theyd do a "Before and After" thing with some doctored photos from the plastic surgeon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 15, 2003 Nonetheless my point was, people jumped the gun about WWE fucking up Kane's appearance and it was done for a purpose. No it wasn't. This is damage control after the shoddy effort, as evidenced by the "Is he human?" comment and Kane being so damn ugly that Austin couldn't look at him as recently as LAST week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJoe2k5 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2003 In TNA Gowen was treated just like any other wrestler, it just so happened that he had one leg. WWE is treating Gowen like a freak of nature, and that line Vince made on Smackdown about him surviving cancer but not surviving him makes me want Vince to die so Shane can take over the company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 15, 2003 In TNA Gowen was treated just like any other wrestler, it just so happened that he had one leg. WWE is treating Gowen like a freak of nature, and that line Vince made on Smackdown about him surviving cancer but not surviving him makes me want Vince to die so Shane can take over the company. I don't like Vince, but I wan Shane no where near running the company Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2003 You know what's REALLY funny? Lawler made fun of Lance because he was using holds and shit while at the same time the WWE is trying to tone down their in-ring style. Sabotage the product much, King? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted July 15, 2003 In TNA Gowen was treated just like any other wrestler, it just so happened that he had one leg. WWE is treating Gowen like a freak of nature, and that line Vince made on Smackdown about him surviving cancer but not surviving him makes me want Vince to die so Shane can take over the company. I don't like Vince, but I wan Shane no where near running the company Would you rather have Steph? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 15, 2003 In TNA Gowen was treated just like any other wrestler, it just so happened that he had one leg. WWE is treating Gowen like a freak of nature, and that line Vince made on Smackdown about him surviving cancer but not surviving him makes me want Vince to die so Shane can take over the company. I don't like Vince, but I wan Shane no where near running the company Would you rather have Steph? Pick your poison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted July 15, 2003 In TNA Gowen was treated just like any other wrestler, it just so happened that he had one leg. WWE is treating Gowen like a freak of nature, and that line Vince made on Smackdown about him surviving cancer but not surviving him makes me want Vince to die so Shane can take over the company. I don't like Vince, but I wan Shane no where near running the company Would you rather have Steph? He's just afraid that Test will get a World title run if Shane runs the company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 15, 2003 In TNA Gowen was treated just like any other wrestler, it just so happened that he had one leg. WWE is treating Gowen like a freak of nature, and that line Vince made on Smackdown about him surviving cancer but not surviving him makes me want Vince to die so Shane can take over the company. I don't like Vince, but I wan Shane no where near running the company Would you rather have Steph? He's just afraid that Test will get a World title run if Shane runs the company. Or Big Show. Or Steve Blackman will get rehired. Remember, Shane has his share of worthless friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted July 15, 2003 Well, Show got a title reign already, so that's been done by Vince himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 15, 2003 Well, Show got a title reign already, so that's been done by Vince himself. Now imagine what Shane will do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted July 15, 2003 And Blackmen is retired with an injury I think. So there's one less person to worry about AS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 15, 2003 And Blackmen is retired with an injury I think. So there's one less person to worry about AS. But world champion TEST! damnit, think about it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
