Guest GameCop Report post Posted July 16, 2003 The Clippers, one of the deepest teams last season, are on the verge of taking four steps back. A team that was lauded to be the most athletic, most entertaining team to watch, and a potentially devestating team for the opposition, will have to rebuild AGAIN. Michael Olowokandi is purported to sign a 3 year, 16 million dollar offer with the T' Wolves. Corey Maggette has already signed a 6 year, 45 million dollar offer with the Jazz. Andre Miller has signed a 6 year, 52 million dollar offer with the Nuggets. Elton Brand will sign a 6 year, 82.5 million dollar contract with the Heat. Even if Sterling matches the Heat's offer, the Heat will undoubtedly get Lamar Odom, a player Pat Riley "has coveted for years." It's all Donald Sterling's fault; he is the cheapest bastard on the planet. The Clippers, unfortunately, will be lucky to win 15 games next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 16, 2003 And this is news? Sterling doesn't Care...Hell...Bigger profit for next season. Sterling LIKES this. No Names to deal with...and No egos. Low Pay=Higher Profit. Sterling is dancing in the rain right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted July 16, 2003 Why the hell doesn't the NBA step in and find someone to replace this fuck? He really is the cheapest bastard in all of pro sports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 16, 2003 Because He makes Stern an profit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted July 16, 2003 If Sterling lost four of his players, wouldn't he have a heap of money waiting for free agents Kobe and Garnett next season? With that said, I can't forsee Kobe joining the Clippers, but you never know. If anyone can turn the Clippers into a legitimate basketball club it's Kobe Bryant or Kevin Garnett. Knowing Kobe -- from the press -- he would enjoy taking on a challenge as formidable as this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 16, 2003 Yeah...but Sterling won't shell out the money because then that means an Lesser profit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CED Ordonez Report post Posted July 17, 2003 I'm in awe that he stills makes a profit when everyone knows they have to rebuild practically every year and are a dead-end team because of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Why in the world do so many people think that this weird thing is gonna happen that if the Clips match the Brand offer than the Heat automatically get Odom? 1. Just because they match Brand doesn't mean they won't match Odom as well. Odom's deal probably won't be as high as Brand's anyway. Plus if they lose Miller, Maggette and Olowokandi, all the money they would've used on those guys could go Odom's way. 2. Even if they don't match Odom, why does he automatically go to the Heat? Maybe he goes to the Spurs or Nuggets instead. Or gasp, even stay in LA. I just don't get why everywhere I read everybody keeps talking like it's a done deal that the Heat are gonna get either Brand or Odom but there's a good chance they won't get either one because nobody can predict what the Clippers will do EVER. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted July 17, 2003 I'm in awe that he stills makes a profit when everyone knows they have to rebuild practically every year and are a dead-end team because of it. Exactly if people would just quit supporting the team until they prove they deserve to be supported, things would change. But as long as people continue to buy tickets, Sterling will never change because he simply has no real reason to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted July 17, 2003 David Stern needs to rescind the Clippers organization; he's got to put the club out of its misery because it has suffered and neglected its fan base WAY too often. Or, at least, he's got to coerce Sterling to get the hell out of L.A. The Clippers -- though admittedly undermined by Sterling -- don't deserve to play on the same court or venue as the Lakers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Don't buy Clippers jerseys just because 50 cent had one in a music video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted July 17, 2003 A quick note Miller and Maggette are both restricted free agents. The Clippers have 14 day to match the Nuggets and Jazz respected offers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Knowing ass fuck Sterling he'll wati 13 days and 11 hours and 58 minutes to go "Huh? Oh Um yeah we'll match" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted July 17, 2003 We really haven't heard anything from the Clippers. They have Dunleavey in place know. Maybe we'll get an idea if the Clippers plan on matching any of the 3 offer sheets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Wednesday, the first day of free agency was a bad day for me, I’ll admit. But all is not lost because Sterling HAS to spend some money due to the Clipper rule – each team must have a minimum $42 million in payroll next season or else they must pay a fine much like teams who go over the cap. As of this writing the Clips’ payroll for next season is $14 million. That means they have to spend at least $28 million more or else Stern will levy fines on the team that would most likely eclipse that amount. That being said, this is how I see things shaping up in the end: 1. Sign Odom for $8-10 million within the next 2 weeks. 2. Match Brand’s offer after we get Odom in the bag. Fuck you PAT RILEY. 3. Match Maggette’s $7 million/year contract, if not we still have Quentin Richardson. 4. Bye bye Andre Miller. You were a disappointment to this team and this city. We still have Marko Jaric and Keyon Dooling. Not a big loss. 5. Kandi…good riddance. This is what you call addition by subtraction. We have Chris Kamen, Wang Zhi Zhi and our 2 second year phenoms in Chris Wilcox and Melvin Ely. Of course this only works unless Sterling does something stupid, like not pay. With that being said, I will go back into hiding now until the Clips do me proud and sign someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted July 17, 2003 I personally think the Clippers should move to San Diego or even Anaheim. LA is too crowded now. I know the LA tag is what gets Sterling some of his money, but 2 LA teams? If that's the case, why dont we have 2 NY teams and 2 Chicago teams since they are just as big of a market as LA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2003 I'd buy the Clippers and move them to Missouri, but that'd require alot of money. Plus, Kemper Arena sorta sucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted July 17, 2003 If the Clippers match the offer sheets do players like Brand and Miller have to sign them? Or could they work a deal with another team or just sign one year deals with the Clippers? If LA is smart, and they know all these players don't want to play for them. They would match all the offer sheets and then work sign and trades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Everyone is saying that the Clippers will lose either Odom or Brand to the heat because the Heat is the only other team that can offer Odem or Brand that much money. Plus, once he signed the offer sheet, no other team can deal with Brand. If the Clippers match that huge deal that the Heat offered, they won't be able to match what the heat can throw at Odom. It will become a game of simple math, just figuring how much it would take to put LA over the limit and offering Odom a contract for that much. The Clippers are going to have to match some offers because a. no free agents are going to sign with the clippers and b.they won't have enough players. I've said it before and will say it now, The heat WANT Lamar Odom...they are using the Brand deal to all but guarentee that they get him. Unless of course Odom chooses to stay with the Clippers. And outside of Piakowski, who would do something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Sadly, it’s the end of an ERA…The L.A. Daily News confirms that Eric Piatkowski will not return to the Clippers. He had played with the Clippers in all of his nine seasons. Piatkowski is exploring other options The Clippers do have enough money to match Brand and Odom. Sterling would just have to be willing to spend some of his millions. On Sundays, in the LA Times, you can’t turn a page in the travel or California section without seeing “Another Donald Sterling Enterprise,” ads all over the place. The man is making hands over fist, hopefully, he’ll think about the fans who have been loyal and supportive throughout his frugal reign as owner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Bosstones Fan Report post Posted July 17, 2003 There's no way in hell I'd give Lamar Odom any kind of crazy money. His character and dedication to his craft is entirely too questionable to warrant that kind of investment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Sadly, it’s the end of an ERA…The L.A. Daily News confirms that Eric Piatkowski will not return to the Clippers. He had played with the Clippers in all of his nine seasons. Piatkowski is exploring other options The Clippers do have enough money to match Brand and Odom. Sterling would just have to be willing to spend some of his millions. On Sundays, in the LA Times, you can’t turn a page in the travel or California section without seeing “Another Donald Sterling Enterprise,” ads all over the place. The man is making hands over fist, hopefully, he’ll think about the fans who have been loyal and supportive throughout his frugal reign as owner. He won't be able too without filling out the roster with CBA players a league minimum. And the way the contract is structured, he would have to give 20+ million of the contract THIS YEAR. Cheap or no cheap, he would be stupid to match this deal and if he did, he couldn't sign Odom without running into luxuary tax land, where even the more fre spending owners try to avoid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 17, 2003 With these front loaded, “poison pill” contracts, couldn’t he structure a deal with Odom where he would pay Lamar $1 million this year and then pay him a huge sum the second year? I’m not sure how these contracts work but this front loaded stuff is a bunch of crap. Why couldn’t an owner sign Shaq, Kobe, KG, Dunacan and McGrady and structure the deals so that they each get a chunk of the money in a different year? For instance, if they all signed 5 year $100 million deals, why couldn’t they just pay Shaq $40 million the first year and divide the other $60 million over the remaining 4 years. Then, have Kobe get a chunk of his contract in year 2, KG in year 3, etc… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Yeah, but would Lamar "I'm one infraction away from being out the league for 2 years" Odom take a deal like this? Remember, if he doesn't report to his meetings properly he will be considered in violation of the league rules and be outta there. And that still wouldn't solve the problems with them needing to fill out the roster since they will definately lose 2-3 starters from last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Potential Clipper Lineup for next season: Chris Kamen C Wang Zhi Zhi C Melvin Ely PF Chris Wilcox PF Marko Jaric G Quentin Richardson G Keyon Dooling G Tremaine Fowlkes F Free agents we might sign… Brand Odom Maggette Cherokee Parks Long Shots… Sean Rooks Polish Rifle Eric Piatkowski Andre Miller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Brand Odom Maggette That part is impossible. There is NO WAY they could match the Jazz, and the Heat presumeably twice to get those guys back. Any 2 out of the 3 MAYBE and thats a big, big big big MAYBE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Once again, I can’t speak for the frugal Donald T. Sterling, but it is possible. Maggette is only getting $7 million the first year, Brand is getting like $20 and if they straight up give Odom a fair offer, Sterling can use the $30 million of the team’s profits this year plus the $15 million that he will get from the likes of Jerry Buss, Mark Cuban and Paul Allen for going over the salary cap. In other words, he would not even have to tap his petty cash account to pay these guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Potential Clipper Lineup for next season: Chris Kamen Wang Zhi Zhi Melvin Ely Chris Wilcox Marko Jaric Quentin Richardson Keyon Dooling Tremaine Fowlkes What's the record for least amount of wins in a season? Isn't Quentin Richardson a FA next season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Q is a restricted FA along with Dooling, meaning the Clips can match. The record for fewest wins is 9 and the Clips will have absolutely nothing to do with that record. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2003 Who owns that fewest wins record? I bet the Clips can either tie it, or fall one short of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
