Swift Terror Posted July 18, 2003 Report Posted July 18, 2003 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3075897.stm The 41-year-old suspect, identified as Armin M, is alleged to have killed the 43-year-old victim in March 2001 in the town of Rotenburg in central Germany, after meeting him through the site. He then carved up and froze portions of the man's flesh, later eating some of it, prosecutors allege. The crime was apparently carried out with the victim's full consent, however state prosecutor Hans-Manfred Jung told French news agency AFP that the victim's supposed "death wish" did not change the fact that the killer had wanted to commit murder. The suspect's arrest in December last year caused a sensation in Germany, as the country's tabloids competed to report the most grisly details of the case. 'Sexual enjoyment' The suspect and victim - both apparently homosexuals - met in early 2001, after Armin M is said to have posted a personal ad on several websites and in chatrooms asking for "young, well-built men aged 18 to 30 to slaughter", the German daily newspaper Bild reported at the time of his arrest. The victim was a 43-year-old Berlin computer technician who had sold his car, written a will and taken the day off work to sort out what he called a "personal" matter. He then went to Armin M's home, where the pair reportedly agreed to cut off his penis. The victim was then allegedly stabbed to death - still apparently with his approval - and cut into pieces. The whole incident was filmed on videotape, and prosecutors say that the whole crime was committed for the purpose of sexual enjoyment. Authorities were tipped off by internet surfers who found the requests on various sites. Mr Jung said there was no evidence that Armin M had been involved in further cases, however several people with whom he had been in contact on the internet are still under investigation. A date for the trial has yet to be set. Well, this is one sexual fetish I haven't heard much about. Not surprising though, that there are a sub-culture of cannibals who get off on this. You can dream up anything sick thing you want and there will be people out there who will be turned on by it.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted July 18, 2003 Report Posted July 18, 2003 Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, Albert Fish..
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted July 18, 2003 Report Posted July 18, 2003 Why must facist governments try to legislate behavior that goes on between two consenting adults in the privacy of their home? Get out of our bedrooms Big Brother...
Guest Lil Naitch Posted July 18, 2003 Report Posted July 18, 2003 Why must facist governments try to legislate behavior that goes on between two consenting adults in the privacy of their home? Get out of our bedrooms Big Brother... It's murder. Consent or no, it was purely and simply murder. Not to mention sick. IF he did this to a willing participant, what happens when he can't find another one? Better to nip this in the bud. No pun intended.
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted July 18, 2003 Report Posted July 18, 2003 Sorry, Naitch, but your counterpoint is a bit hard for me to swallow, what with these finger sandwiches I'm eating right now...
Guest Crucifixio Jones Posted July 18, 2003 Report Posted July 18, 2003 It's murder. Consent or no, it was purely and simply murder. Personally, I'd consider it assisted suicide. kkktookmybabyaway was right on with his Big Brother comment.
Guest Ripper Posted July 18, 2003 Report Posted July 18, 2003 *waits for the day I am so right about something CJ puts my name in bold*
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted July 18, 2003 Report Posted July 18, 2003 Right?! Damn, I was joking around. Oh well, at least CJ pimped me in bold. Now time to go back out and make him some mo' money...
Guest Crucifixio Jones Posted July 18, 2003 Report Posted July 18, 2003 Well, I know you were being facetious, but there was some truth in your viewpoint. This kind've infringed upon two things I think you should have the right to do: kill yourself and explore yourself sexually. This guy did both things consensually. We might not be into it or get it, but I can't say the guy doesn't have a right to do it. If he wants to combine the two, more power to him.
Swift Terror Posted July 18, 2003 Author Report Posted July 18, 2003 On a semi-serious note, imagine the mind-set of the 'victim'. Perhaps he felt--in his warped world--it would be an ego boost to have someone ingest him, take him into their body, literally. And the cannibal is also turned on by ingesting his 'lover'. The ultimate form of physical love?, hehe. Sounds like a match made in heaven
Guest Retro Rob Posted July 18, 2003 Report Posted July 18, 2003 I agree with CJ. No matter how sick it is, suicide and sex are two things any government should stay out of.
Guest Choken One Posted July 18, 2003 Report Posted July 18, 2003 I got wood. Is that wrong? Oh well... Let it go...
Guest godthedog Posted July 19, 2003 Report Posted July 19, 2003 The 41-year-old suspect, identified as Armin M, is alleged to have killed the 43-year-old victim in March 2001 in the town of Rotenburg in central Germany, after meeting him through the site. He then carved up and froze portions of the man's flesh, later eating some of it, prosecutors allege. The crime was apparently carried out with the victim's full consent, however state prosecutor Hans-Manfred Jung told French news agency AFP that the victim's supposed "death wish" did not change the fact that the killer had wanted to commit murder. The suspect's arrest in December last year caused a sensation in Germany, as the country's tabloids competed to report the most grisly details of the case. 'Sexual enjoyment' The suspect and victim - both apparently homosexuals - met in early 2001, after Armin M is said to have posted a personal ad on several websites and in chatrooms asking for "young, well-built men aged 18 to 30 to slaughter", the German daily newspaper Bild reported at the time of his arrest. The victim was a 43-year-old Berlin computer technician who had sold his car, written a will and taken the day off work to sort out what he called a "personal" matter. He then went to Armin M's home, where the pair reportedly agreed to cut off his penis. The victim was then allegedly stabbed to death - still apparently with his approval - and cut into pieces. The whole incident was filmed on videotape, and prosecutors say that the whole crime was committed for the purpose of sexual enjoyment. Authorities were tipped off by internet surfers who found the requests on various sites. Mr Jung said there was no evidence that Armin M had been involved in further cases, however several people with whom he had been in contact on the internet are still under investigation. A date for the trial has yet to be set. 301/302
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted July 20, 2003 Report Posted July 20, 2003 Huh?!?! There's a blurb at the bottom of IMDB that says if you like this movie try watching "As Good As It Gets"...
Guest evenflowDDT Posted July 21, 2003 Report Posted July 21, 2003 The whole incident was filmed on videotape... OMG SNUFF FILM~!
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