Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted July 19, 2003 In regards to the girl: I've seen sluttier. MUCH sluttier. I think that we could see the race card sooner than later, sadly enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted July 19, 2003 Something tells me that Kobe was high on Painkillers and was horny as fuck... I'm pretty sure that someone "high on painkillers" would have a difficult time performing sexually. No it's not. It's quite easy to have sex while your on pain killers. But I doubt that's what happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 20, 2003 IT GETS EVEN BETTER! NEW NEWS! From ESPN.com "The Colorado woman who has accused Kobe Bryant of sexual assault overdosed on pills and was rushed to a hospital two months before the alleged incident with Bryant, one of her close friends told the Orange County Register. Based on the 19-year-old woman's accusation, Bryant was officially charged with a single count of felony sexual assault Friday. If convicted, he faces four years to life in prison or 20 years to life on probation, and a fine of up to $750,000. Bryant is scheduled to return to Eagle, Colo., for a preliminary hearing on Aug. 6. Bryant, 24, said Friday that he was guilty only of committing adultery. In cases of this nature, the credibility of the accuser -- whose identity is not being revealed -- often becomes an issue. The accuser's friends have been keeping her overdose a secret -- until now, the Register reported. "I think it was just a cry for help," 18-year-old Lindsey McKinney told the newspaper. McKinney had been living at the accuser's house in May, when the woman allegedly took the pills. When she learned from the woman's ex-boyfriend that the woman had "overdosed," McKinney rushed to her home and found the woman incoherent, lethargic and seemingly drunk, according to the Register. "I was scared. She wasn't really talking at all," McKinney told the newspaper. "I was like, 'you need to open your eyes.' " Some friends of the accuser said they believed the overdose was an accident. Not McKinney. "I don't think it was accidental. I was there," she told the Register. Tyson Ivie, a former classmate of the accuser's, told the newspaper that the overdose was "a big secret" that friends have been unwilling to talk about until now. The police dispatch call from the night of the alleged assault is currently sealed from the public by investigators. The woman's father declined comment for the Register's story. According to the newspaper's report, Bryant's accuser was going through an extremely difficult period in her life at the time of the overdose. She returned home from her freshman year of college to find out her ex-boyfriend had taken up with another woman. Also, around the time of the overdose, close friend Nicole Clements died in a road accident while returning from high school graduation ceremonies. "It was kind of boom, boom, boom," McKinney told the Register. "I think the things that happened to her in the past had a lot to do with what [she said happened the night of the alleged assault]." "I know she had been going through a lot, but I know that she wouldn't lie," 19-year-old Eagle resident Ashley Scriver told the newspaper. Scriver also knew about the the overdose. The Register quoted legal experts as saying the news of the overdose will be a major advantage for Bryant's defense team. "This is powerful evidence and the answer to the defense's prayers," Robert Pugsley, a criminal law professor at Southwestern University School of Law in Los Angeles, said. Pugsley added that this kind of evidence, if exploited by the defense, could be enough to shut down the case before it reaches trial. "[Defense attorneys are] looking for a way to demonstrate that this woman is hysterical and over-reactive," Pugsley said. "This is literally dynamite evidence, a bonanza for the defense and a landmine for prosecution." Bryant's attorneys could not be reached for comment Saturday by the Register." This only HELPS kobe's case...This appears to be heading towards Slut chick looking for $$$ file for good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted July 20, 2003 At least her character is in question now. This'll make the case alot easier for the defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted July 21, 2003 This girl totally looks like a money grubbing psycho slut, now. And one more thing: Do you realize the riots that would ensue if Kobe IS CONVICTED? The government needs to step in now and make sure that Kobe is exonerated/acquitted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted July 21, 2003 The government needs to step in now and make sure that Kobe is exonerated/acquitted. And how do you propose they do that? Override a guilty verdict? "Because of the potential of some brothers to really make a mess of things, we must go over the head of the judicial branch and deem Mr. Bryant not guilty" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Hey, is it possible to combine the two Bryant threads? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted July 21, 2003 It is, but since they're rather different in tone, I think they should remain separate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted July 21, 2003 And one more thing: Do you realize the riots that would ensue if Kobe IS CONVICTED? The government needs to step in now and make sure that Kobe is exonerated/acquitted. It's LA. They'd riot if Rip Taylor cancelled a performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted July 21, 2003 this woman is hysterical and over-reactive Well at least now we know that the woman in question was a REAL woman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted July 21, 2003 And one more thing: Do you realize the riots that would ensue if Kobe IS CONVICTED? The government needs to step in now and make sure that Kobe is exonerated/acquitted. Especially if he's guilty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brush with Greatness Report post Posted July 21, 2003 In regards to the whole supposed drug overdose of the girl, I think this could be used both ways. The prosecution could argue that this proved she has low self esteem and was vulnerable and Kobe took advantage of her vulnerability. It could work both ways. As well, if she was so distraught about her boyfriend cheating on her it could be argued that she has very high morals and is against that sort of activity (such as adultery or what have you). Why would she want to help someone commit it if she is so against it? I don't think this evidence is as damning as some of you think. As for the case, there is a big difference between a woman accusing an athlete of rape and an athlete actually being charged with rape. I could cite many instances where athletes are accused, but how many actually lead to charges being pressed? This, combined with the time the DA took to look everything over before pressing charges, leads me to believe that there is more to this that we don't know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted July 21, 2003 It is, but since they're rather different in tone, I think they should remain separate. Understood. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Howard Stern just got back from vacation today and he was checking out the website of the alledged victim and he said she looked like she was 12. That's sounds like Kobe's type. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted July 21, 2003 OMG KOBE LIKES YOUNG GIRLS~! HANG HIM~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 21, 2003 OMG KOBE LIKES YOUNG GIRLS~! HANG HIM~! Don’t overreact, we don’t have to lynch the guy just because he likes young girls. My earlier post just solidified the fact that he likes under-aged teens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted July 21, 2003 He doesn't like underaged teens. I'm sure you have figured that out by now from the two threads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Oh, she's a drug addict. Because those types of people have NEVER been raped by someone before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted July 21, 2003 OMG KOBE LIKES YOUNG GIRLS~! HANG HIM~! Don’t overreact, we don’t have to lynch the guy just because he likes young girls. My earlier post just solidified the fact that he likes under-aged teens. Polish_Rifle is too dim to even recognize sarcasm. Henceforth, his posts are on "ignore." And you didn't solidify anything. Kobe doesn't prefer underaged teens, that something you've managed to concoct from ONE incident. Where's the precedence, friend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 21, 2003 OMG KOBE LIKES YOUNG GIRLS~! HANG HIM~! Don’t overreact, we don’t have to lynch the guy just because he likes young girls. My earlier post just solidified the fact that he likes under-aged teens. Polish_Rifle is too dim to even recognize sarcasm. Henceforth, his posts are on "ignore." And you didn't solidify anything. Kobe doesn't prefer underaged teens, that something you've managed to concoct from ONE incident. Where's the precedence, friend? I don’t know about you but that’s one too many times for me! A priest that molests a child is a child molester even though he only did it once! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Yeah, but what ONE time are you talking about? At what time was Kobe involved with an underaged woman? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Read the other thread. I think I’m just going to post on 1 thread rather than fight on all 3 fronts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted July 22, 2003 Do you think the Lakers can win the championship with only O'Neal, Malone and Payton? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ErekT2k Report post Posted July 22, 2003 Wrong thread, but imo, they'll have a tougher time, but they're still the odds on favorite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest shlidgn90 Report post Posted July 22, 2003 i dont think the lakers would get past dallas or sacramento without kobe. kobe is their x-factor against those two. san antonio wont be in the picture next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nanks Report post Posted July 22, 2003 Well, this simply can't end well either way. There are two possible scenarios. #1 Kobe raped this chick and that is reproachable and I hope he gets what's coming to him. #2 This chick is a money-grubbing psycho bitch who is out to totally ruin a man's life because he turned her down for a 2nd date or some such other rubbish The other part of the story that irks me is that they tried to cover up the chick's OD and when they refuse to comment on it and act as if it's totally immaterial whereas if Kobe is anything but 100% transparent it's seen as all but an admission of guilt and he's totally condemned. I have to say, looking only at the outer layer of evidence we've got, I'm leaning towards scenario #2, and I think a case could be made that doing that to someone should be classified as a crime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2003 You know the whole drug thing about the girl could backfire on Kobe. Think about it even if he didn't rape her he did fuck a 19 year old, depressed girl (who by attempting suicide is probably desperate for attention) who was probably in awe that a star like Kobe Bryant gave her the time of day. That makes Kobe look like a real dick if you think about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted July 22, 2003 Fortunately, being a dick isn't a crime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted July 22, 2003 If it was... Jordan would have been in prison a long time ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted July 22, 2003 We KNOW he fucked her. At the LEAST, when he left her that night, he knew she was crying & upset (witness testimony tells us this much). That makes me tend to believe that no matter how many pills she popped a couple months prior, something not quite right went down between them in that room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
