Guest Coffey Report post Posted July 21, 2003 I would give Benoit/Sullivan *** and HHH/Cactus **** That's just me. This post is funny, and entertaining for me to read. Carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 21, 2003 HHH/Cactus > Benoit/Sullivan ANY DAY OF THE FUCKING WEEK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest shlidgn90 Report post Posted July 21, 2003 hhh/foley 01/00 is not a classic and is around **** at best. personally i think that both of his wcw brawls against the nasties were better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Nevermind, saw the post. Oh, don't forget Benoit vs Sullivan BATB 96 Do you mean GAB 96? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted July 21, 2003 HHH v. Foley didn't have many "sick" spots. It was the usual Foley bumps with a pedigree on thumbtacks being the final thing to absolutely kill Cactus Jack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted July 21, 2003 MSG was one of the reasons. A match carries more importance if it takes place at MSG, mostly due to the rich history that it has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted July 21, 2003 I see Benoit/Sullivan as more a ground breaking brawl. This would equate to HBK vs Razor from WMX and comparing it to the TLC's that followed. If you watch the TLC's, they blow away the WMX match in terms of stunts and spots and such. But if it weren't for WMX, the guys in the TLC matches wouldn't have been inspired to do what they did. Yeah, yeah. That may be true, but the key to that Ladder match is represented by three letters and those three letters are what sets it apart from the TLC matches. M. S. G. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 21, 2003 HHH/Foley was **** 1/4 IMHO/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Nevermind, saw the post. Oh, don't forget Benoit vs Sullivan BATB 96 Do you mean GAB 96? No, it's Bash at the Beach 1996. I just put it in my VCR to watch it again. This thread inspired me to watch it again. Kevin Sullivan Vs. Chris Benoit in a Career Vs. Career match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Last time I watched Cactus/HHH it hadn't aged well. It was pretty dull to begin with (even the crowd were chanting "Boring" at one point) then it picked up, and they took some major punishment and told a good story. It was a good match but nowhere near 5*, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted July 21, 2003 The pedigree into the thumbtacks spot may be one of the 5 sickest spots in wrestling history. I still cringe when I see that spot on WWE T.V. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Nevermind, saw the post. Oh, don't forget Benoit vs Sullivan BATB 96 Do you mean GAB 96? No, it's Bash at the Beach 1996. I just put it in my VCR to watch it again. This thread inspired me to watch it again. Kevin Sullivan Vs. Chris Benoit in a Career Vs. Career match. The match in question was from GAB 96. They had another brawl, not anywhere near as good, at BATB 97. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Nevermind, saw the post. Oh, don't forget Benoit vs Sullivan BATB 96 Do you mean GAB 96? No, it's Bash at the Beach 1996. I just put it in my VCR to watch it again. This thread inspired me to watch it again. Kevin Sullivan Vs. Chris Benoit in a Career Vs. Career match. Umm No Bash at the Beach 96 was Benoit/Anderson vs. Sullivan/Giant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest slabinskia Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Posted on Jul 21 2003, 11:34 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hhh/foley 01/00 is not a classic and is around **** at best. personally i think that both of his wcw brawls against the nasties were better. Posted on Jul 21 2003, 11:34 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------- those tag matches with the nastys are gold.i thought i was the only one who liked them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Nevermind, saw the post. Oh, don't forget Benoit vs Sullivan BATB 96 Do you mean GAB 96? No, it's Bash at the Beach 1996. I just put it in my VCR to watch it again. This thread inspired me to watch it again. Kevin Sullivan Vs. Chris Benoit in a Career Vs. Career match. Nope- BATB 96 has Giant/Sullivan v. AA/Benoit. BATB 97 has Benoit v. Sullivan in a career match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted July 21, 2003 "Boring"? I could've sworn they were chanting, "Foley." Even Jerry Lawler said the fans were chanting, "Foley." No hard feelings, Dangerous A. You're a cool guy whom I happened to get caught up in a misunderstanding with. I hope everything is cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted July 21, 2003 MSG was one of the reasons. A match carries more importance if it takes place at MSG, mostly due to the rich history that it has. Does that include Garrison Cade v. Rosey and Hardcore Holly v. Test? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted July 21, 2003 I LOVE the match where Cactus teams with Sullivan, maybe since they finally won the big one. The Spring Stampede match is also a lot of fun, but I like the one that followed better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2003 The match that was discussed in this thread was the GAB 96 match that ended up going to a bathroom where they blasted the hell out of each other with anything and everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Last time I watched Cactus/HHH it hadn't aged well. It was pretty dull to begin with (even the crowd were chanting "Boring" at one point) then it picked up, and they took some major punishment and told a good story. It was a good match but nowhere near 5*, IMO. The crowd chants boring because they were brawling in the aisles. As someone who has seen a PPV at MSG- It's impossible for most of the crowd to see what's going on when they brawl in that part of the building Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted July 21, 2003 "Boring"? I could've sworn they were chanting, "Foley." Even Jerry Lawler said the fans were chanting, "Foley." Well JR and Lawler also see "complete silence" as "utter shock". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted July 21, 2003 "Boring"? I could've sworn they were chanting, "Foley." Even Jerry Lawler said the fans were chanting, "Foley." No hard feelings, Dangerous A. You're a cool guy whom I happened to get caught up in a misunderstanding with. I hope everything is cool. Of course Jerry Lawler is going to say they were chanting Foley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted July 21, 2003 The Spring Stampede and Slamboreee 1994 Cactus/Sullivan vs. Nasties brawls were some of the most innovative, influential matches of their time. Amazingly, they still hold up very well today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2003 The Spring Stampede and Slamboreee 1994 Cactus/Sullivan vs. Nasties brawls were some of the most innovative, influential matches of their time. Amazingly, they still hold up very well today. Spring Stampede 94 was Cactus/Max Payne vs. Nasties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted July 21, 2003 You're right, Jerry Lawler and that burnt victim, J.R. are some of the biggest tools to ever walk the face of the planet. Next time, when J.R. observes the dead crowd during a HHH match and says, "Wow, folks, the crowd is in complete awe of the World Heavyweight Champion," I hope Kane saunters out and finishes the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2003 I should know about Spring Stampede 94 it's the first Wrestling PPV I ever saw. Flair/Steamboat hooked me on wrestling. It was an all around great PPV too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted July 21, 2003 We're cool, GameCop. Total misunderstanding. Yeah, I got my ppv's mixed up by 1 show. The Benoit/Sullivan brawl I was talking about was from GAB 96 fall count anywhere match. BATB 97 was the retirement match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Or better yet, I hope Kane's pyro lights J.R. on fire so we never have to be subjected to his senility. Long live Jonathan Coachman. Finally, the black man is getting some respect. Although, I have to admit, Coachman acts way too "whitish" to be a genuine black man. He needs to thug and bug a little more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Forget Coachman...he's pretty annoying. Bring back Heyman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GameCop Report post Posted July 21, 2003 The problem with Heyman is that he uses only one modifier to describe the events in the ring. That word is EXTREME~! "look at that EXTREME headlock" "JR, that was EXTREME!!" "We're gonna get really EXTREME!!" "That sleeper hold by HHH is EXTREME!!!!!" You get the picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
